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Clown Taiwan flatter themselves says PLA would cannibalize them using 4 aircraft carriers battle groups! LOL~!

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https://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2019-12-24/doc-iihnzahi9553557.shtml

台军报告:解放军将用4个航母战斗群解放台湾

2019年12月24日 09:06 环球时报



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大陆解放台湾用得着4个航母战斗群么?
近日,台湾“国防部”所属智库“国防安全研究院”(简称:“国安院”),发表其成立以来首度的《中共政军发展评估报告》。由于所属部门是湾湾的“国防部”,所以台媒对这份报告非常重视,认为这代表了台军方的声音。
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从披露的内容看,报告有一个观点备受关注——该智库评估,到2030年大陆军方将拥有4个航空母舰战斗群,解放军在南海所采取的造岛及军事化行动,目的是攻打台湾时可从南部进攻,不必担心美军从背后实施反击,因此攻打台湾风险正在提高。
刀哥觉得,为了在选举前营造气氛,湾湾一些人会把所有能用的手段都用上的。当然,这些说法有多少可信度,那就是考验你的智商和知识的水平了。
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湾湾马上选举了,这个很多人都知道。而在选举之前,湾湾一些人最擅长的就是制造“反中情绪”、炒作“台湾悲情”。当年,那个阿扁就是不惜“牺牲”自己肚皮上的半斤脂肪,上演了枪击闹剧,才换来了选举胜利。
蔡小英也是一个煽动选情的高手。
所以,所谓的“国安院”在距离选举这么近的时候发布这份报告,目的是什么想必大家都很清楚——催票、催票、催票。民进党知道,只有让台湾民众感到担心、害怕甚至是恐惧,才能有更多人出来投他们一票。
再看看这份“报告”所言,由于最近大陆首艘国产航母“山东舰”在三亚某军港服役,所以湾湾一席人肯定不会放过这个噱头,大造一番舆论。
报告说,大陆将焦点放在台湾,认为台湾位居第一岛链的关键位置,若能取得台湾东部港口,解放军就能一劳永逸突破第一岛链进入太平洋。制海权需要海外基地的支持,由此可见大陆方面为何将战略目标放在台湾东部港口。
报告说,根据美国著名军事家阿尔弗雷德·赛耶·马汉提出的“海权论”,国家繁荣与国力,有赖海上交通线的控制,并称“谁控制海洋,谁就控制世界”。而控制海洋除了拥有一支强大海军,同时必须拥海外基地与补给站。
有了这些基地和补给站,解放军就可以向更远的地方部署更多的航母。
关于解放军航母,报告宣称2030年解放军海军将拥有4个航母战斗群,与现在的辽宁舰和山东舰不同,湾湾方面评估认为解放军后两艘航母应该是采用弹射起飞方式,而且排水量比现在的两艘航母更大。
报告引述美国智库国际评估与战略中心研究员理查德·费舍尔的话说,“占领台湾,将是中国对外扩张需要走出的关键一步。”报告称,若陆方占领台湾,中国海军向外投射军力将会方便许多。
按照,这个报告的说法,从南侧依靠航母战斗群对台湾岛发动攻击,可能会成为解放军解放台湾时的一个重要战术选择。因为如果将航母战斗群放在台湾岛的东侧或北侧,更容易受到驻日美军和太平洋第七舰队的攻击。
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大陆解放台湾还需要等到2030年吗?
在刚刚举行的环球时报年会上,解放军原南京军区副司令员王洪光中将表示,留给台湾的和平统一时间时间越来越少了。而且我们现有军力已经足够拿下台湾,而且战斗不会持续太长时间。
王洪光将军说,关于统一台湾他有三个方案。第一个是“北平模式”,也就是和平统一;第二个是“天津模式”,打下来;第三个是“南京模式”。大家知道1949年4月份,解放军并没有正面攻打南京,是过长江的时候采取200公里围住南京,后来驻南京的国民党二三十万军队撤离南京。最后解放军一枪没打,就把南京拿下来。
而且,王洪光将军说,根据他的评估,只需要拿下三个岛对台湾岛不动,湾湾一些人就不可能敢搞什么“台独”。
第一是东瀛岛,上面没有常住居民,摧毁、零伤亡拿下,要震慑它一下;
第二是东沙群岛,这个地方是台湾海峡、南海海峡三岔路口,去一个连就可以把它拿下来,也是对湾湾的震慑;
第三是澎湖列岛,距台湾40公里,距福建100多公里。清政府打台湾的时候,海军在澎湖列岛与台独激战,攻取了澎湖列岛。假设我们拿下澎湖列岛,那帮“台独”还有希望吗?
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而且,大陆解放台湾根本就不需要4个航空母舰战斗群。
如今,解放军战机和军舰绕台,已经实现常态化。在海军方面,多次派出航空母舰辽宁号及新型导弹驱逐舰、护卫舰、补给舰组成的编队,从台湾海峡穿过,或者绕道台湾岛东面。
此外,今年9月25日大陆公布了075型两栖攻击舰下水仪式。这种舰艇最多可搭载30架直升机,排水量达4万吨级,为世界第三大两栖攻击舰,仅次于美国的两栖攻击舰。这种舰艇肩负的任务就是对海登陆作战。
解放军战机则分别从东部和南部战区起飞,出动苏-35、轰-6K、空警-500预警机、运-8/9型电子侦察机,及歼-11战斗机等不同机型,组合实施绕台行动。
从导弹力量上看,可以投入到对台作战的“东风快递”更是有多种型号,其中有专门对付湾湾部队的,也有专门对付可能前来的美国海军航母等大型舰艇的。只要美国人敢在这个时候出兵,我们就有信心送上专属的“东风快递”。
比如,今年10月1日的天安门阅兵,解放军再度展示东风-41、巨浪-2型等弹道导弹,以及东风-17型可携带高超音速滑翔弹头的中程导弹,都是对美威吓的重要战略武器。另外,可由远程轰战机轰-6N携带对陆攻击巡航导弹,足以威胁美军西太平洋军事基地。
“长剑”-100超音速岸基反舰巡航导弹,可直接对台军的海军舰队造成重大威胁。而电子对抗侦察机、电子侦察机等会对湾湾也能形成空中压制和电子战干扰;各式武装直升机将在登岸作战时发挥作用。
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所以,用4个航空母舰战斗群解放台湾?奉劝湾湾一些人,别把自己YY地那么强大。
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Taiwan military report: PLA will use 4 aircraft carrier battle groups to liberate Taiwan
December 24, 2019 09:06 Global Times
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Does the mainland liberate Taiwan need 4 aircraft carrier battle groups?

Recently, the National Defense Security Research Institute (referred to as the "National Security Institute"), a think tank affiliated with Taiwan's "Ministry of National Defense", has published the "CPC Political Army Development Evaluation Report" for the first time since its establishment. Because the department is Wanwan's "Ministry of National Defense," the Taiwan media attach great importance to this report and believe that it represents the voice of the Taiwan military.

From the content of the disclosure, there is a point of view in the report. The think tank assesses that by 2030, the mainland military will have four aircraft carrier battle groups. The island-building and militarization actions taken by the PLA in the South China Sea are aimed at attacking Taiwan. You can attack from the south at any time, and you don't have to worry about the U.S. forces fighting from behind. Therefore, the risk of attacking Taiwan is increasing.

Brother Sword feels that in order to create an atmosphere before the election, some people in Wanwan will use all available means. Of course, how much credibility these claims have is to test your IQ and knowledge level.

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Shaukeiwan Bay is about to be elected, and many people know this. Prior to the election, some people in Wanwan were best at creating "anti-China sentiment" and speculation "Taiwan sadness". At that time, that A Bian did not hesitate to "sacrifice" half a catty of fat on his belly, staged a shooting slapstick, and in exchange for election victory.

Cai Xiaoying is also a master of inciting elections.

So, the so-called "National Security Council" released this report when it was so close to the election. The purpose is presumably clear to everyone-reminder, reminder, reminder. The DPP knows that only by making the people of Taiwan feel worried, scared, or even afraid, can more people come out and vote for them.

Let's take a look at what this "Report" said. Since the mainland's first domestic aircraft carrier "Shandong Ship" recently served in a military port in Sanya, a person in Wanwan will certainly not let go of this gimmick and make a lot of public opinion.

According to the report, the mainland has focused on Taiwan and believes that Taiwan is in the key position of the first island chain. If it can obtain the eastern ports of Taiwan, the PLA can break through the first island chain once and for all and enter the Pacific. Sea control requires the support of overseas bases, which shows why the mainland has placed strategic goals in ports in eastern Taiwan.

According to the report, according to the "sea power theory" proposed by the famous American military strategist Alfred Saye Mahan, the prosperity and national strength of the country depend on the control of the maritime traffic lines, and said that "who controls the ocean, anyone controls the world." . In addition to having a powerful navy, Ocean Control must also have overseas bases and supply stations.

With these bases and supply stations, the PLA can deploy more aircraft carriers further afield.

Regarding PLA aircraft carriers, the report announced that the PLA Navy will have four aircraft carrier battle groups in 2030. Unlike the current Liaoning and Shandong ships, the Wanwan assessment believes that the latter two aircraft carriers should adopt the catapult takeoff method, and the displacement is higher than the current The two carriers are bigger.

The report quotes Richard Fisher, a researcher at the US Center for International Assessment and Strategy, as saying, "Occupying Taiwan will be a crucial step for China's external expansion." The report said that if the mainland occupied Taiwan, the Chinese navy would project outwards. Military power will be much more convenient.

According to this report, relying on the carrier battle group from the south to launch an attack on Taiwan Island may become an important tactical option for the PLA when it liberates Taiwan. Because if the aircraft carrier battle group is placed on the east or north side of Taiwan Island, it will be more vulnerable to attack by the US troops stationed in Japan and the Pacific Fleet.

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Does the mainland need to wait until 2030 to liberate Taiwan?

At the annual meeting of the Global Times just now, Lieutenant General Wang Hongguang, former deputy commander of the Nanjing Military Region of the PLA, said that the time for peaceful reunification of Taiwan was getting less and less. And our current military strength is enough to win Taiwan, and the fighting will not last long.

General Wang Hongguang said that he has three plans for reunifying Taiwan. The first is the "Peking Mode", which means peaceful reunification; the second is the "Tianjin Mode", which is defeated; the third is the "Nanjing Mode". As we all know, in April 1949, the PLA did not attack Nanjing directly. It crossed 200 kilometers to surround Nanjing when it crossed the Yangtze River. Later, the Kuomintang (KMT) army of 200,000 to Nanjing evacuated from Nanjing. In the end, the PLA did not hit a shot, so Nanjing was taken down.

Moreover, General Wang Hongguang said that according to his assessment, as long as he won three islands and remained untouched to Taiwan, some people in Wanwan would not dare to engage in "Taiwan independence."

The first is Dongying Island. There are no permanent residents on it. Destroyed and won with zero casualties. You must deter it;

The second is the Dongsha Islands. This place is the Sancha junction of the Taiwan Strait and Nanhai Strait. You can take it down even if you go there. It is also a shock to the bay.

The third is the Penghu Islands, 40 kilometers from Taiwan and more than 100 kilometers from Fujian. When the Qing government hit Taiwan, the navy fought fiercely with Taiwan independence on the Penghu Islands and captured the Penghu Islands. Suppose we win the Penghu Islands. Are there any hopes for the "Taiwan independence"?

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Moreover, the liberation of Taiwan by the mainland does not require four aircraft carrier battle groups at all.

Nowadays, the fighter planes and warships of the People ’s Liberation Army (PLA) have gone around Taiwan and have become normalized. On the navy side, the aircraft carrier Liaoning and new guided missile destroyers, frigates, and supply ships have been repeatedly sent through the Taiwan Strait, or detoured to the east of Taiwan Island.

In addition, on September 25 this year, the mainland announced the launching ceremony of the Type 075 amphibious assault ship. This ship can carry up to 30 helicopters with a displacement of 40,000 tons, making it the third largest amphibious assault ship in the world, only after the United States. The task of this kind of ship is to land the sea.

The PLA fighter planes took off from the eastern and southern theaters, respectively, and dispatched different models such as Su-35, H-6K, Air Police-500 early warning aircraft, Yun-8 / 9 electronic reconnaissance aircraft, and F-11 fighter jets. action.

From the perspective of missile power, there are many types of "Dongfeng Express" that can be put into combat against Taiwan. Some of them are dedicated to the Gulf Forces, and they are also dedicated to large ships such as US Navy aircraft carriers that may come. As long as the Americans dare to send troops at this time, we have the confidence to send our exclusive "Dongfeng Express".

For example, the Tiananmen military parade on October 1 this year, the PLA again demonstrated the Dongfeng-41, Julang-2 and other ballistic missiles, as well as the Dongfeng-17 medium-range missile that can carry a hypersonic gliding warhead, all of which are important to US threats. Strategic weapons. In addition, the long-range bomber H-6N can carry land-attack cruise missiles, which is sufficient to threaten the US military's western Pacific military base.

"Long Sword" -100 supersonic shore-based anti-ship cruise missiles can directly pose a major threat to the Taiwan Navy's naval fleet. Electronic countermeasure reconnaissance planes and electronic reconnaissance planes can also form air suppression and electronic warfare interference on the Wanwan; various types of armed helicopters will play a role in landing operations.

So, liberate Taiwan with 4 aircraft carrier battle groups? Some people in Wanwan are advised not to make themselves so strong.

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Basically Taiwan had no idea how are aircraft carriers use.

Most ironically Taiwan FORGOT that mainland is too near to Taiwan, and it is an UNLIMITED SIZED AIRCRAFT CARRIER itself.

If Aircraft Carriers were used for the war to takeover Taiwan, their role would be to operate in the Pacific far from Taiwan to deploy interception and cut off any aid to Taiwan and lock down the west Pacific to deny any aiding forces to enter and to prevent any ship / flight fleeing off Taiwan. However even this is unnecessary as far as satellites and missiles are concerned, from the mainland there is sufficient coverage and effective range to deny ANYTHING coming close to or leaving Taiwan. Sinking and shooting down any planes within 3 to 4 mins of missile flight time. Nothing can escape detection and tracking.


Whole fucking Taiwan is just well within PLA's pocket, 瓮中抓鳖。
 

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Taiwan should bomb the three gorges dam if attacked. That will scare the chicoms to recognise their independence!
 

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Taiwan military strategists and planners are naive and fear-mongering. Even with no aircraft carriers, the PLA can still flatten Taiwan. It is just a question of whether they want to kill fellow Chinese or not.
 

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There's way too much disinformation in the Taiwanese media, too much political posturing and entertainment and not enough factual reporting.

Over the year's I've seen ridiculous myths with regards to the military being perpetuated by mass media and most of them lack even basic factual standing. This has led to many Taiwanese layman thinking that the ROC military is technologically on par or even superior to China's PLA today and all they lack are the numbers which they can make up with US assistance.

Only in Taiwan can a small catamaran corvette in the ROC Navy be billed as an "aircraft carrier killer", a medium range cruise missile being described as if it's the world's premier strategic weapon like a Minuteman, Topol-M or DF-41 and more recently the incessant boasting over what is essentially an upgraded but old 4th generation fighter frame (F16V) into a F22 equivalent.
 

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Taiwan military strategists and planners are naive and fear-mongering. Even with no aircraft carriers, the PLA can still flatten Taiwan. It is just a question of whether they want to kill fellow Chinese or not.



HK is a very clear and doubtless evidence that MUST KILL FELLOW CHINESE or else will never solve loyalty problem.

HK proved that 1 country 2 system is a national diving stupidity.

Most fucked up result will come out of it when applied foolishly on Taiwan's unification. 100X worst then HK.

Invasion + civil war + carnage + culling is the only way to purify and rule free of troubles.
 

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Currently there is no 1 country 2 system.
Best hong kong revert back to british rule and replace xi jinping potrait with HM the queen of england.
What hongkies and sinkies want is british rule.
 

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Taiwan should bomb the three gorges dam if attacked. That will scare the chicoms to recognise their independence!

Should Taiwan ever have the balls to bomb the 3 Gorges Dam, the whole of Taiwan will be bombed into oblivion. For Chicoms to recognise Taiwan's independence is but an impossible dream!
 

democracy my butt

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Currently there is no 1 country 2 system.
Best hong kong revert back to british rule and replace xi jinping potrait with HM the queen of england.
What hongkies and sinkies want is british rule.


If this STUPID civilization still cannot clearly visualize that Chow Ang Moh's world and system FAILED BEYOND HOPE and are dying by their own foolish suicide, China should just carnage and destroy them manually and cull their fucking population to zero. Prevent them from further wasting planet earth's resources and generating waste and pollution. Bulldoze and flatten ALL other political systems and ethnic / culture. ONE GLOBE = ONE SYSTEM. All else must vanish for good
 

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Should Taiwan ever have the balls to bomb the 3 Gorges Dam, the whole of Taiwan will be bombed into oblivion. For Chicoms to recognise Taiwan's independence is but an impossible dream!
Fact is, taiwan was not part of china till about 500 years ago. The dutch and portuguese were there first before they abandoned the island.
Later, it was under japanese rule. The culture totally different from mainland china.
And until today, taiwanese prefer japanese rule than under china nationalist occupation when they were brutalised. Almost similar to hong kong where they prefer colonial power rule than being ruled by chinese.
 
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Fact is, taiwan was not part of china till about 500 years ago. The dutch and portuguese were there first before they abandoned the island.
Later, it was under japanese rule. The culture totally different from mainland china.
And until today, taiwanese prefer japanese rule than under china nationalist occupation when they were brutalised. Almost similar to hong kong where they prefer colonial power rule than being ruled by chinese.
By the same token for about 500 years now; Taiwan & the outlying islands of Kinmen etc were all part of China. Then China has a fledgling navy & the KMT leaders managed to flee to Taiwan & establish themselves there with impunity. Btw Taiwan was under Japanese occupation to be more precise. They managed to seduce the younger generation with their culture & politics.
 

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By the same token for about 500 years now; Taiwan & the outlying islands of Kinmen etc were all part of China. Then China has a fledgling navy & the KMT leaders managed to flee to Taiwan & establish themselves there with impunity. Btw Taiwan was under Japanese occupation to be more precise. They managed to seduce the younger generation with their culture & politics.


Not need to worry about any civilized arguments weather where belinged to who in the history. Not at all.

History is a record of mostly blood and carnage. And can always be RE-WRITTEN OVER AGAIN IN BLOOD and Carnage. The mighty strong one must take all free initiative to freely write ANY WHICH WAY THEY LIKE and carnage / cannibalize ALL ELSE WEAKER HUMAN. History will obey this and just LAN-LAN record it accordingly. This is called MAKING HISTORY.

Modern Civilization is TOTALLY FOOLISH AND ABSOLUTELY WRONG.

China should cannibalize USA and genocide all of it's bankrupted beggars. Fly Chinese flag on it and call it ANY NAME BEIJING LIKE.

500 years Later they will refer to this history and say Chinese vonqered and ruled USA SINCE 2019 and thus no need to argue it belongs to the Chinese.

Understand?
 

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The way historic records works is like this:

Few billion sucker peasants complied with stupid riles? and laws and Fucking Grneva Convention etc THERE WILL BE NOTHING RECORDED. Not at all.

If book of history recorded this crap nobody will notice not be interested. This page of such history book would be ripped off from book and be? used? in the toilet to clean asshole. And be TOTALLY FORGOTTEN.

It will be a very significantly record of history if China nuked SUSAN 5000 warheads within 10 mins. Wiped off 300 million bankrupted beggars. And rename USA to DOTARD GRAVEYARD.
 
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