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Chinese in America- no place like home

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No place like home
By Mu Qian (China Daily)
Updated: 2010-04-27 09:31 Comments(6) PrintMail Large Medium Small


Brother Sway, who owns a food business in Seattle, has been
drawing much attention with his stand-up talk show, Don't
Come to the US. Provided to China Daily

Though record numbers of Chinese students are choosing to study in the United States, if they stay they often find they are small fish in a big pond, Mu Qian reports

Brother Sway, who is from Beijing but now resides in Seattle and has been in the United States for 20 years, has recently become well-known through a stand-up talk show called Don't Come to the US.

In the show, that can be seen on all the major video-sharing websites, Brother Sway numbers the disadvantages of living in the US for Chinese people, and sings a song based on the 1960s revolutionary song Sailing the Seas Depends on the Helmsman, but with new lyrics: "Don't come to the US. The US can't compare to China. The food and drinks here are terrible. From morning to evening, there is nothing for you but work."

Since moving to the US in 1988, Brother Sway, also known as Ray Tsway or Cui Baoyin, has studied at a university and tried to make a go of various businesses, such as a Chinese restaurant and travel service. Now he owns a concession food company.

"Most Chinese people who manage to come to the US are here for a bigger dream and a better future. Owning a profitable food business is a good enough living for most Americans, but it is not what I came to the US for," Brother Sway says.

"My social status is lower than the one I had before I left China. From being a white-collar worker in China I have become blue collar. This is the case with so many Chinese in America."

A netizen's comment on Tsway's talk show illustrates the feelings of many Chinese in the US when comparing their lives now to that in China: "Had they listened to Brother Sway's advice earlier, many Chinese talents would have had their undertaking in China instead of muddling along in the US; they would have been professors, doctors, or managers in China, instead of ending up being a laborer or a small boss; they would have married their childhood sweethearts instead of trying to get along with foreign spouses or living alone."




A Chinese student educated abroad at a job fair held in Xiamen,
Fujian province. Mo Feng / For China Daily

Tsway says that he enjoys his life in the US, yet at the same time feels a sense of loss.



"I could have done bigger things, had bigger achievements had I stayed in China," he says. "I left China to pursue a better life. I had no idea that China would have developed so fast, and grown so strong and powerful."

After releasing Don't Come to the US on the Internet, Tsway's e-mails grew to 200 a day with comments from people in the US, Japan, Germany, Canada and Australia.

The show seems to be appealing more to overseas Chinese than to people in China. On YouTube, which is not accessible within China, the video has received more than 100,000 clicks, while on Youku.com, the Chinese equivalent of Youtube, it has about 60,000 clicks. Most comments from overseas Chinese are supportive of the show, while some comments from China question why Tsway is still in the US when he sees so many disadvantages.

You Jiajia, a 25-year-old woman who has just moved back to China from the US, says that she can understand Tsway's ambivalent feelings since she has been hesitant about whether to come back or not.

You got a master's degree in economics from New Mexico State University last year. Most Chinese students chose to stay in the US because of the better environment and income, but having worked there for half a year, she finally came back to China last month.

"The job I got in the US was not very helpful for my future career," she says. "China will be developing fast in the next 50 years, and I think there will be many opportunities in China for me."

Many Chinese students choose to work in the US in order to get a green card, but You considers the long process to be a waste of her youth. She is now planning to work either in Beijing or her hometown of Chengdu in Southwest China's Sichuan province.

Statistics from the Institute of International Education show that in the academic year of 2008/09, 98,235 students from China were studying in the United States, up 21.1 percent from the previous year.

According to the China-US Joint Statement released last November while President Barack Obama was visiting China, "the US side will receive more Chinese students and facilitate visa issuance for them".

This has been seen as a good news for Chinese students who plan to study in the US, and experts estimate that the number of Chinese students studying in the US will further increase this year.

"The number of Chinese students in the US will surely exceed 100,000 this year," says Sang Peng, president of Beijing Overseas-Study Service Association. "The unsatisfactory performance of the Chinese higher education system and the increase in Chinese people's incomes are driving more and more Chinese students to go abroad."

As more Chinese students study overseas, the number of haigui (overseas returnees) is also increasing. According to the Ministry of Human Resources and Social Security, the number of Chinese students who returned from overseas in 2009 saw an increase of 56.2 percent compared to the previous year, exceeding 100,000 for the first time.

"It is foreseeable that more and more Chinese students will return to China after studying overseas, since it is difficult for many Chinese to integrate themselves into the mainstream societies of foreign countries," Sang says. "For many overseas Chinese students, their best choice is to come back to China, where they can enjoy an elite status."

Xiao Kechao, a senior student of Peking University, who has already been admitted by Harvard's School of Engineering and Applied Sciences for graduate study, says that for him returning to China and staying in the US after study are both possible.

"I go to the US because I will get a better education for my major there. As for the question of work, it's now too early to decide. I'll see what happens," he says.
 

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Arrested Chinese graduate student says: 'I'm no terrorist'China Daily/Asia News Network | Tue May 25 2010

He has been accused of trying to set fire to a campus building and of making threats to one of his professors.
XI'AN, CHINA - "I will never believe that my son was a terrorist," said Zhai Taishan, who flew to Beijing from Xi'an, Shaanxi province, on Monday night trying to seek help for his son, who is accused of being a terrorist in the United States. They are seeking help from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Zhai's son, Zhai Tiantian, was a Chinese graduate student at the Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken, New Jersey, before he was arrested by police on April 16. He has been accused of trying to set fire to a campus building and of making threats to one of his professors with whom he had a disagreement.

Zhai Tiantian is being held in the Hudson County jail in New York state.

Zhai, 27, was born in Xi'an and went to study in the US in 2003.

Zhai Tiantian's mother, Wang Xiaojun, said she received a phone call at her home in Xi'an from one of her son's schoolmates early on May 10, who told her that her son was in jail.

On April 15, Zhai Tiantian had a verbal dispute with his professor, whose name has yet to be identified, over his academic work, but no physical altercation took place, according to a female Taiwanese schoolmate, surnamed Wang. The professor thought that Zhai said some threatening things to him and he reported Zhai to the school's authorities, saying that Zhai posed a potential threat to the institute.

Wang said:"Zhai Tiantian was a bit brash in his quarrel with the professor. But Zhai told me that he absolutely did not say anything about setting fire to the school."

According to Wang, Zhai is a good student who maintains good relations with his fellow students. They like this young and smart Chinese student, she said, adding she does not understand how he could be considered a "terrorist".

Zhai Taishan said his wife and he could not believe the bad news after receiving the phone call from the US and they have tried to contact many friends in the US to confirm it.

"We felt so disappointed and sad when we got the confirmation from the report of the US China Press (a Chinese newspaper published in the US)," Zhai Taishan told China Daily on Monday.

The US China Press reported on May 20 that Zhai Tiantian said something about getting revenge against his professor, and the professor later called the campus police. They arrested Zhai Tiantian and turned him over to the New Jersey police. Zhai is currently being held in jail and is unable to raise the $20,000 bail.

According to the indictment, Zhai Tiantian is facing the charge of "terrorism". The police also alleged that he was attempting to set fire to the campus. However, Zhai Tiantian denied that he had any plans to commit arson and that he had ever mentioned such an idea to anyone.

On the day of the incident, Stevens Institute of Technology immediately canceled Zhai's student visa. The following day, the Immigration and Naturalization Services (INS) ordered his arrest. On the third day, INS issued a deportation order.

Zhai Tiantian's lawyer, Hai Ming, told the US China Press that America is a nation with freedom of speech. Therefore, people cannot be convicted on the basis of what they think or say. Zhai's case is being mishandled, he said.

Zhai Tiantian has a government-appointed lawyer for the criminal charge and Hai Ming is handling the immigration case. The outcome of the criminal case will ultimately determine whether Zhai will be sent back to China. If convicted, He might not be allowed to stay in the US.

The lawyer said that before the dispute, Zhai Tiantian expressed dissatisfaction with the institute in a TV interview in which he said he wanted to sue the school for racial discrimination.

"This is probably the real reason why the school is dealing with him this way," Hai said.

Luo Gang, the overseas Chinese affairs consul with the Chinese Consulate-General in New York, said he has handled similar cases in which Chinese students had verbal clashes with others. "Chinese and American cultures are different, so what the Chinese regard as acceptable remarks may be deemed by Americans as threats. This is an unfortunate incident. We don't want to see that. The case is in the judicial phase and we can only hope the lawyers will be able to help him."

One of Zhai Tiantian's middle school classmates, surnamed Liu, called Xi'an-based Huashang Daily from Canada on Sunday expressing his concern, saying that he will never believe that Zhai Tiantian was a terrorist.

"I have known him since middle school and he was one of the best students in the school," Liu said.

Zhang Xingfan, vice-president of Shaanxi Chamber of Commerce in the US, made a phone call to Zhai Taishan on Sunday after learning the news, saying he would be happy to provide assistance to the family.

"We were shocked by the news and will pay attention to the progress of the case. As fellow Shaanxi people, we will offer any possible help to the student," Zhang said.

-China Daily/Asia News Network
 

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No place like home
By Mu Qian (China Daily)
Updated: 2010-04-27 09:31 Comments(6) PrintMail Large Medium Small

"It is foreseeable that more and more Chinese students will return to China after studying overseas, since it is difficult for many Chinese to integrate themselves into the mainstream societies of foreign countries," Sang says. "For many overseas Chinese students, their best choice is to come back to China, where they can enjoy an elite status."

I think it is esp difficult for Chinese people to migrate to western countries because it was a Great Leap Forward to close the gap between their values, beliefs & culture. But it is still possible, judging from the number of success stories.

Even in Australia, I find that Chinese women literally cling on to their wei-liao boyfriends for their dear lives. I know of this case where after the angmo boyfriend threatened to leave her, she got herself pregnant by him to make him stay. But the guy still left her, for another Asian woman.
 

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Even in Australia, I find that Chinese women literally cling on to their wei-liao boyfriends for their dear lives. I know of this case where after the angmo boyfriend threatened to leave her, she got herself pregnant by him to make him stay. But the guy still left her, for another Asian woman.

Wtf...that's very stupid of the chinese woman. And that fucking angmo is a heartless piece of shit, as typical of these yellow-fever stricken white trashes.
 

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I think it is esp difficult for Chinese people to migrate to western countries because it was a Great Leap Forward to close the gap between their values, beliefs & culture. But it is still possible, judging from the number of success stories.

Even in Australia, I find that Chinese women literally cling on to their wei-liao boyfriends for their dear lives. I know of this case where after the angmo boyfriend threatened to leave her, she got herself pregnant by him to make him stay. But the guy still left her, for another Asian woman.

yea heard many cases like that. some slept w the white guys on 2nd dates and wondering why the guys never called them back? its probably
eaiser for the whites to lure the chinese girls in bed than the white babes who are usually more selective and demanding. Some are so desperate that they would just pick anyone on the street and get married the next day! many of them of course are not comfortable blending in the western culture and still listen to mandarin songs, watching chinese dramas/movies and have difficulties communciating with their partners. ultimately, guys are guys, after all the lust and bust are over if they don't feel connected or culturally fitting they would just dump their gfs either go with a white girl or a more westernised oriented asian girls (sporean girls with fit very well in this category).
 

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yea heard many cases like that. some slept w the white guys on 2nd dates and wondering why the guys never called them back? its probably
eaiser for the whites to lure the chinese girls in bed than the white babes who are usually more selective and demanding. Some are so desperate that they would just pick anyone on the street and get married the next day! many of them of course are not comfortable blending in the western culture and still listen to mandarin songs, watching chinese dramas/movies and have difficulties communciating with their partners. ultimately, guys are guys, after all the lust and bust are over if they don't feel connected or culturally fitting they would just dump their gfs either go with a white girl or a more westernised oriented asian girls (sporean girls with fit very well in this category).

This is so fucking sad. For all that rise of East Asia and with Japan as the technological leader of the world , our silly yellow women repeatedly get pumped and dumped by these useless white trashes.

Asian women really need to clean up their stupidity and immoral acts. They reflect badly on East Asians.
 

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Not just in Australia, I know of cases in the UK where they are desperate to stay that they would hook up with any white,black pommies there just to stay in the country.

yea heard many cases like that. some slept w the white guys on 2nd dates and wondering why the guys never called them back? its probably
eaiser for the whites to lure the chinese girls in bed than the white babes who are usually more selective and demanding. Some are so desperate that they would just pick anyone on the street and get married the next day! many of them of course are not comfortable blending in the western culture and still listen to mandarin songs, watching chinese dramas/movies and have difficulties communciating with their partners. ultimately, guys are guys, after all the lust and bust are over if they don't feel connected or culturally fitting they would just dump their gfs either go with a white girl or a more westernised oriented asian girls (sporean girls with fit very well in this category).
 
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