Chitchat China War Games SBF Challenge

[zhihau]

Will never happen, bro.

"Never say never", that's how the saying goes...

 

[scroobal]

This is the winner of the challenge. Though were some good points by AsianDK, Zihau etc but these would be the likely consequences.

The nuclear option is certainly out as it was sunk by conventional means. As China's leadership is not made up of madmen, this is clearly out. It will certainly lead to a second cold war at a minimum but these are tactics that are biting and highly disruptive to the US and its business without engaging in a full scale war. Both countries are unable to invade each other let along hold on to any conquest so any large deployment is unlikely. It is also likely that China will resort large scale cyber activity to disrupt the US. North Korea has done it successfully against S Korea when Telcos and Utilities were shut down.

What is certain is an explosion in propaganda by the Chinese for their own citizens and to the world. You will never hear the end of it as this has been pretty the culture of communist and authoritarian countries.

The Chinese respond by

1) Imposing a naval/aerial blockade around Taiwan;
2) Mining the Spratleys; and
3) Retaliating via soft US targets within their sphere of influence (e.g. allowing mobs to attack US citizens in China, allowing the burning/looting of the US embassy,seizing US merchant ships).

 

[scroobal]

When I saw this I realised that you must be a ranking civil servant of the serious kind. Even an academic in the field would not come up with this.

The Chinese respond by

1) Imposing a naval/aerial blockade around Taiwan;
2) Mining the Spratleys; and
3) Retaliating via soft US targets within their sphere of influence (e.g. allowing mobs to attack US citizens in China, allowing the burning/looting of the US embassy,seizing US merchant ships).

 

[AsiaDK]

Thank you Scroobal.

 

[zhihau]

You will never hear the end of it as this has been pretty the culture of communist and authoritarian countries.

Bro,
those who watched PRC serials often will be familiar with the WW2 theme and/or their struggle against the KMT.
my worry is the netizens fuelling the tension and forcing the central to take actions.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Bro,
those who watched PRC serials often will be familiar with the WW2 theme and/or their struggle against the KMT.
my worry is the netizens fuelling the tension and forcing the central to take actions.

The china govt is more than willing to stoke the fires of nationalism as a means to maintaining legitimacy, authority and charisma.

By the way my war games scenario enunciated earlier in the thread was a shameless plagiarism of 24: season 9. Lol!!

 

[scroobal]

When the Tianamen Square incident occurred Deng was decisive. Read his comments to the Canadian PM below, very insightful

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Deng-Xiaoping-crack-down-on-the-Tiananmen-Square-protests

What I suspect is that Taiwan will face a lot of heat and the comment about the blockade. I have no doubt emotions will run high among the populace.

Bro,
those who watched PRC serials often will be familiar with the WW2 theme and/or their struggle against the KMT.
my worry is the netizens fuelling the tension and forcing the central to take actions.

 

[scroobal]

China now is an interesting contrast to when China opened its doors. Under Deng it becomes the darling of the World. Everyone was going to China to invest, do business etc. Deng was highly regarded and China became the champions of the underdog in the 3rd world by their actions in the UN Security Committee.
Russia and US both had to watch their steps.

Now it seems very different. The factions in CCP, the crackdown of rivals for corruption etc. Not sure what is really going on.

The china govt is more than willing to stoke the fires of nationalism as a means to maintaining legitimacy, authority and charisma.

By the way my war games scenario enunciated earlier in the thread was a shameless plagiarism of 24: season 9. Lol!!

 

[zhihau]

By the way my war games scenario enunciated earlier in the thread was a shameless plagiarism of 24: season 9. Lol!!

Still valid nonetheless, have you seen how they get actors to dress up as imperial Japanese soldiers to get beaten up?

 

[zhihau]

I have no doubt emotions will run high among the populace.

Would be interesting to see how the triads in Taiwan react- instead of overthrowing the Qing dynasty in the past, would they be organised to overthrow the CCP? :o:o:o

 

[zhihau]

congrats to aurvandil for scoring the goal :p:p:p

 

[aurvandil]

Thanks ! But just a voice crying in the wilderness...

When I saw this I realised that you must be a ranking civil servant of the serious kind. Even an academic in the field would not come up with this.

 

[syed putra]

fuck you i said USA won't be able to sink so nothing happens. China isn't warmongering so nothing happens you smelly shit skin.

Seizing territories is war mongering you fool.

 

[zhihau]

Lai liao, lai liao...

BEIJING — The US Pacific Command says a Chinese jet and a US Navy patrol plane had an “unsafe” encounter over the South China Sea this week, raising concerns. PUBLISHED: 1:20 PM, FEBRUARY 10, 2017

source: http://www.todayonline.com/world/americas/us-chinese-aircraft-unsafe-encounter-over-s-china-sea

 

[zhihau]

US Carrier Strike Group (CSG) Carl Vinson enroute to Korean Peninsula...

 

[zhihau]

Read somewhere recently there are now 3 US carriers in the Pacific.

Shiok shiok or not?

 

[leeisphtui]

Read somewhere recently there are now 3 US carriers in the Pacific.

Shiok shiok or not?

yes there is a thread on it 3 carriers are upsetting beijing

 

[Loofydralb]

Too bad Scroobal is not around any more. But here is my 5 cents:

Eventually US will run a war of attrition on the Chinese. Quietly a few China warships will be sunk, away from the public. It will start from the small boats and US will await the Chinese response. If China responds, US will ramp up until the point China will stop responding. If China does not respond, US will sink bigger and bigger boats until China retreats back to their territorial waters.

There is only one outcome for China. Capitulate. And then there will be 4 Republic of Chinas.

 

[zhihau]

There is only one outcome for China. Capitulate. And then there will be 4 Republic of Chinas.

who will pull the first punch?

 

[Loofydralb]

Even the Brits are sending their aircraft carrier into south china sea.

So we have USA, Japan, UK, SKorea, Taiwan, Philipines, Vietnam, Australia, Malaysia, Indonesia, SG active there.

Good luck China. You dug your hole, now you gotta lie in it.