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China should abolish Trade Talks & Lead full scale Economic War finish off USA!

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In the 1st place USA will not be honest to stick to deals made, Dotard is a cheap crook bankrupted beggar. More importantly it is primary importance to Finish Off the pest of the globe USA regardless of ANY consideration such as prices to pay or ANY consequences.

By finishing off USA, China will prove what it is capable of, and can finish off any others, if necessary. The planet is in multiple fold excess number of countries and billion & billions of excess population level that Global Resources are not able to sustain further. Elimination Game must start ASAP, to avert a Global Total Extinction & Destruction of Planet's Eco System.


https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/may/23/trump-china-latest-news-trade-deal-too-hard

Trump says China trade deal is 'too hard to get done'
The deal will probably need to be restructured, Trump tweeted, one day after saying he was ‘not satisfied’ with trade talks

Edward Helmore in New York

Wed 23 May 2018 17.32 BST Last modified on Wed 23 May 2018 20.12 BST

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Donald Trump at a meeting with the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in, in the Oval Office on 22 May. Photograph: Pool/Getty Images
Donald Trump has further dampened expectations of a trade deal with China, saying the current framework makes it “too hard to get done”.

“Our Trade Deal with China is moving along nicely, but in the end we will probably have to use a different structure in that this will be too hard to get done and to verify results after completion,” he tweeted early on Wednesday.

Trump’s comments come one day after he said he was “not satisfied” with the trade talks that have become stressed on the US side by an apparent lack of coordination among administration officials.

According to a New York Times report published on Monday, the strained relationship between the treasury secretary, Steven Mnuchin, and the National Trade Council director, Peter Navarro, devolved into a shouting match in front of Chinese officials on a trip to Beijing earlier this month.

The stock markets reacted further to the president’s latest comments, with the Dow Jones dropping 120 points in early trading. In trading on Tuesday, the index dropped 300 points.

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Market analyst Capital Economics said in a note that the vague agreement for China to reduce tariffs on US auto imports and to purchase more agricultural and energy products would do little to address underlying trade tensions.

“The deal will have little impact on the bilateral deficit with China and a minimal impact on the overall deficit. Nor does it address long-standing (and increasingly vocal) complaints that many US firms are forced to transfer technologies and cede ownership to Chinese partners in return for market access, which prompted the trade investigation into China in the first place.”

Accordingly, the paper concluded, “tensions over trade policy will almost certainly flare up again in the coming months”.

Several administration officials were then obliged to walk back optimistic comments that China would agree to cut its trade surplus with the US by $200bn, largely by increasing US imports.



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Trump’s trade war with China is over for now. China won.


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President Trump and China's President Xi Jinping shake hands after making joint statements at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing on Nov. 9, 2017. (Damir Sagolj/Reuters)
By Editorial Board May 22 at 6:41 PM
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S trade war with China is over, at least temporarily, and here’s the after-action report: Advantage, China.

There’s no denying that stubborn imbalances have built up in the United States’ bilateral economic relationship with China; nor have past administrations succeeded in getting Beijing to address those through conventional diplomatic means. Mr. Trump’s more confrontational approach, including his threat to impose tariffs, might have been worth a try, had he pursued the right goals.

As the reported terms of the Trump administration’s truce with China show, however, Mr. Trump to date seems to have spent American leverage on a predictably futile effort to achieve large short-term reductions in the $375 billion annual U.S. merchandise trade deficit with China. He agreed to withdraw tariff threats in return for China’s doing the same with its counterthreat, plus promises from Beijing to buy more U.S. agricultural goods and liquefied natural gas. These U.S. sales won’t dent the trade deficit, and they will simply shift global trade flows rather than expand them, because China was already in the market for these raw materials. Nor will China’s ballyhooed reduction in auto tariffs from 25 percent to 15 percent do much to change foreign firms’ overwhelming incentives to build cars in China as opposed to export them there from the United States.

Meanwhile, China has achieved important objectives, both tangible and intangible. In the tangible category, the most important is the president’s apparent willingness to back off a seven-year ban on U.S. sales of components to the Chinese telecommunications giant ZTE, which would have crippled that firm. The U.S. ban was punishment for serious violations of U.S. national security-related laws, specifically, ZTE’s business dealings with Iran and North Korea, and the company’s subsequent lies in its initial settlement with the United States. Mr. Trump has indicated now, however, that, in deference to his good relationship with Chinese dictator Xi Jinping, the United States would settle for a fine and changes to ZTE management. That’s an intangible victory for China too, in that it shows the United States will treat national security policy as a subject of trade negotiation. Also favorable to China is the revelation that Mr. Trump’s policy team is deeply divided and is susceptible to pressure from America’s politically pivotal farm belt.

From the start, the administration should have focused on the truly important, and legitimate, U.S. grievances with China: that country’s restrictions on foreign investment, its intellectual property theft and its attempts to dominate future high-tech industries. On these structural issues, Chinese policy remains the same; Mr. Trump, by showing that he defines victory as selling more U.S. raw materials, gives Beijing no reason to change.

Perhaps this unfavorable truce was the best Mr. Trump could achieve at a time when he also needs Mr. Xi’s help dealing with North Korea. Yet that conflict of interest, too, was foreseeable. No one ever said winning a trade war would be easy, except for the one person who has just proved that it’s not.

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China should begin air sea blockade to Taiwan, and in 1st phase be partial, that is selected (black listed airlines) are to be prevented to land / take off from Taiwan, and intercepted by PLA jets forced to turn away or land in mainland. This got to be announce and enforced. Can enforce not totally but selectively 1st. Force 10 jets away next months, all the rest will automatically cancel fights, passengers dare not book their tickets.

Stop being to nice and friendly or civilized, make MH-17 Great again if necessary. Educate the civilized fools. Prove that you are boss and you have resolve and you make rules all to comply, because you are boss, non-compliance are dead, and regardless the number of dead, deaths will happen, and prevention will fail.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...edia-names-and-shames-foreign-airlines-refuse

Mainland Chinese media names and shames foreign airlines that refuse to comply with ‘Orwellian’ Taiwan demands
State-run newspaper posts ‘black hoarding’ of carriers that have yet to list the self-ruled island as part of China on their websites

PUBLISHED : Wednesday, 23 May, 2018, 10:25pm
UPDATED : Thursday, 24 May, 2018, 10:45am
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China’s mainland media has joined in the fanfare to pressure overseas airlines to identify Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau as being part of the same country.

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Washington has described Beijing’s push to force foreign airlines to comply with its standards by Friday as “Orwellian nonsense”, but the government is adamant that the foreign airliners must respect China’s “territorial integrity and sovereignty, its laws and the feelings of the Chinese people”.

Aviation analysts said that even though the demand is a political one, airlines were likely to comply because of the size of the Chinese market.

Gap apologises for selling T-shirt with ‘incorrect’ map of China

Global Times, a nationalist tabloid owned by the party mouthpiece People’s Daily, named and shamed the major overseas airlines still holding out in a social media posting on Wednesday.

“The deadline is approaching and these overseas airlines are still resisting,” one article posted on its WeChat feed said.

The article has been viewed by more than 50,000 WeChat users and widely circulated by other news outlets, including the website of the overseas edition of People’s Daily.


Foreign airlines have been ordered to respect China’s territorial claims and not give the impression that Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau are independent territories in a letter sent to 36 foreign carriers by the Civil Aviation Administration of China last month.

Media reports said those companies had been given 30 days to comply, adding that those who failed to acknowledge the one-China principle may be subjected to closer administrative scrutiny or even given demerits on their credit records.

US, China in fresh row as Beijing tells foreign airlines they will be punished for failing to respect territorial claims

As the reported deadline of May 25 approached, Global Times made a “red hoarding”, listing 23 airlines that have made the change as requested, and a “black hoarding” with 15 airlines that have yet to comply.

It identified several US airlines, including United and Delta, as well as the Australian carrier Qantas, as being among those that had not yet made the change.

The American Airlines website was criticised for not listing airports in Taiwan as belonging to China and not identifying Hong Kong and Macau as part of the country.

Shannon Gilson, a spokeswoman for American Airlines, said the company had received a letter and was reviewing it, but declined to comment further.

A spokesman for the Dubai-based carrier Emirates said: “Emirates has received a notice from the Chinese authorities and is currently conducting an internal review to ensure compliance with Chinese regulations”.

A spokeswoman for Qantas said: “We made adjustments to our websites earlier this year and, along with various other airlines worldwide, have been given additional time to further clarify how we refer to Chinese territories.”

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The South China Morning Post contacted the other airlines but did not received replies.

China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Civil Aviation Administration of China are also yet to respond.

Several other carriers – including British Airways and Lufthansa – have made the requested changes and are featured on the newspaper’s “red hoarding”.

Air Canada issued a statement saying: “Air Canada’s policy is to comply with all legal requirements in all jurisdictions to which we fly. As a business enterprise, we are not expressing a political point of view, but meeting the requirements of various governments and stakeholders to ensure compliance with all applicable laws.

“Air Canada is only one of numerous major international airlines and other global corporations who have had to adopt their business practices in order to conduct business in Asia.”

China has spent years trying to isolate Taiwan diplomatically. It has never renounced its claim to the self-ruled island, where the defeated Nationalist forces fled in 1949 following the Communist victory in the civil war, and it is still a sensitive subject on the mainland.

Airlines switching to ‘Taiwan, China’ despite White House’s rejection of ‘Orwellian nonsense’ – but US carriers hold out

In January, the US hotel giant Marriott was forced to apologise for sending out a questionnaire to customers that listed Taiwan, Macau, Hong Kong and Tibet as countries.

The incident triggered a hunt by internet users for similar “offences,” and Delta Air Lines, the fashion chain Zara and medical equipment maker Medtronic all subsequently apologised for referring to Taiwan as a country.

Henri Hie, a former executive at Air France and now an aviation professor at Hong Kong’s Polytechnic University, said, “For me, it’s a political problem only.”

However he warned that those that disagreed with China’s stance could see reduced traffic rights and fewer flights in mainland China.

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“The airlines are politically insensitive for putting Taiwan separately,” Albert Lam Kwong-yu, Hong Kong’s former top aviation official, said.

Lam, who has plenty of experience dealing with his mainland Chinese counterparts, added, “I wouldn’t want to guess how Beijing might react.”

Lam, the director general of the city’s Civil Aviation Department between 1998 and 2004, added: “Taiwan is a relatively small market compared with the relative size of the mainland. Airlines are in it to do business, ultimately.

“They are not running a charity. They are there to make money. The mainland market is so big, the Taiwan market is so small.”

Corrine Png, chief executive of transport research firm Crucial Perspective, agreed. “The size of the Chinese international air traffic market is four times the size of Taiwan,” she said.

“For most carriers, their China routes are much more important revenue contributors and higher growth markets compared to Taiwan so it makes commercial sense for them to comply, even if it offends Taiwan.”

Png said there was little Taiwan could do about Beijing’s ultimatum. “Even for the Taiwanese airlines [EVA Airways and China Airlines], China routes are important and contribute around 10 per cent of their passenger revenue. ”


This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: media pile pressure on airlines
 
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