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China is at the best time ever in 5000 yrs history under The Chinese Communist Party

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In the last 30 years, China has lifted over 300 million people out of poverty. This pace of development is unprecedented in human history. In the last 50 years, life expectancy has gone from well below 50 to well over 70. In 1950, the literacy rate in China was less than 20%, but today it is over 90%. Footbinding and concubinage are gone, and women have more rights than ever. China still has many problems, but right now is THE best time ever to be an average Chinese person living in China.
 
Re: China is at the best time ever in 5000 yrs history under The Chinese Communist Pa

China would be a much much better place if it's under KMT. Just look at the Taiwan.
 
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China would be a much much better place if it's under KMT. Just look at the Taiwan.
But they will become like a puppet for the Americans if it's under KMT, Taiwan is the present but China is the future
 
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The power of capitalism.
 
Re: China is at the best time ever in 5000 yrs history under The Chinese Communist Pa

China's history said it all...prosperity for a few years, then in-fighting, corruption will lead to the decline of dynasty...Chinese are not united...

Look at fall of the various supposedly grand dynasties...Han, Tang.
 
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the Beijing rulers are students of Chiang, not Mao. the Chinese would hope that their leaders will follow Chiang's ideology successfully to the logical conclusions.
 
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China would be a much much better place if it's under KMT. Just look at the Taiwan.

you got to be kidding. China under KMT was headed for a melt down if the communists didn't take over. Chiang kaishek's crony Du yueshen was the biggest opium trader selling drugs to his countrymen. The poverty gap was huge. If KMT had their way, china would be worse than india today.
 
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No one mentioned Deng Xiaoping yet?
 
Re: China is at the best time ever in 5000 yrs history under The Chinese Communist Pa

you got to be kidding. China under KMT was headed for a melt down if the communists didn't take over. Chiang kaishek's crony Du yueshen was the biggest opium trader selling drugs to his countrymen. The poverty gap was huge. If KMT had their way, china would be worse than india today.

Nope, that was becos the commist was giving problems. Without the commist, things might be different. Also, Commist China was worst than India when Mao was in charge. It was only when Deng Xiaoping get into top seat that things changed around. By that time, KMT Taiwan was already out of the blues or at least starting to make head ways.
 
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In the last 30 years, China has lifted over 300 million people out of poverty. This pace of development is unprecedented in human history. In the last 50 years, life expectancy has gone from well below 50 to well over 70. In 1950, the literacy rate in China was less than 20%, but today it is over 90%. Footbinding and concubinage are gone, and women have more rights than ever. China still has many problems, but right now is THE best time ever to be an average Chinese person living in China.

Many many problems. Spending so much money to build is causing overheating, inflation and the biggest property bubble the world has ever seen. GDP is there but the quality is no good. Alot of bad loans now in China.

It will pop in 2013-2014 and when it does, Singapore is in big trouble.
 
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communist fund their war using opium as well, go search on it and mao approved it
 
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The poverty gap was huge. If KMT had their way, china would be worse than india today.

KMT economic woes were post WW2 problems and the result of the inducements of Communists agents inside the government. CCP agent Ji Chaoding, an adviser in the Chinese finance ministry plotted the collapse of the national economy strategy planning.
 
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Many many problems. Spending so much money to build is causing overheating, inflation and the biggest property bubble the world has ever seen. GDP is there but the quality is no good. Alot of bad loans now in China.

It will pop in 2013-2014 and when it does, Singapore is in big trouble.

Yes, it's a matter of when....
 
Re: China is at the best time ever in 5000 yrs history under The Chinese Communist Pa

No one mentioned Deng Xiaoping yet?

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The facts stated in this article is consistent with the books, articles and historical accounts I've come across on the subject of chinese triads, politics and drugs (all favourite topics of mine).



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This is a historical article from an early issue of China Now magazine 1977.

The Opium Wars between Britain and China were a key incident in the fall of the ancient imperial order in China.

See also Opium Wars. Opium has had a long history in China. It was first introduced to the country by Arab traders as a medicine in the seventh or eighth century. By 1620 however, Portuguese traders off the coast of China had introduced its use as a luxury habit. But because opium was relatively rare and therefore expensive, it affected only the well-to-do, primarily young men of wealthy families, among whom it was regarded as a status symbol.

This all changed in the 1770s, when England conquered India and Burma. Britain needed large sums of money to colonise these two vast tracts of land, and opium was the answer. Taxes levied on the product brought in the much needed revenue while Britain's merchant ships carried it to the most convenient market: China.

As more and more addicts were created, Emperor Dao guang (1821-1850) of the Qing Dynasty became alarmed. He ordered that Guangdong (Canton), the only port then open to foreigners, be closed to all opium traffic. But British captains evaded the edict by smuggling opium into China with the help of local pirates. Opium presently became so widespread that by 1838, officials in Guangdong and Fujian were notifying the Imperial government that nine people out of ten in these provinces were addicts. The Emperor responded by naming as High Commissioner to Canton, a most extraordinary man, Lin Zexu. Lin was given strict orders to rid the country of opium; he took this mission seriously, and the British found his obstinate rectitude most exasperating. In a letter to Queen Victoria which was never sent, Commissioner Lin chided:

... so long as you do not take it (opium) yourselves, but continue to make it and tempt the people of China to buy it, you will be showing yourselves careful of your own lives, but careless of the lives of other people, indifferent in your greed for gain to the harm you do to others: such conduct is repugnant to human feelings ...

After confiscating and destroying the opium stocks and pipes being sold by Chinese merchants, Lin put pressure on all merchant ships in the harbour carrying the drug to deliver their opium stores to him. Although these stores were publicly disposed of, it did not restrain the British as he had hoped. One tension led to another, finally erupting in the war of 1839 to 1842, called the Opium War by the Chinese. It was an epithet bitterly resented by the British, who piously maintained that the war's purpose was to teach the Chinese a lesson in free trade.

Just what kind of trade was meant was obvious from the swarm of opium boats which followed the Royal Navy upstream to Nanjing, where the Qing Dynasty was forced to sign a treaty opening China to trade. Peace had barely been concluded when the opium boats began to hawk their wares: 'Opium is on sale very cheap at Sui Shan - an opportunity not to be missed.'

A second Opium War (fought from 1856 to 1858) removed the final restraint on drug traffic, and by 1880, China was importing more than 6,500 tons of opium a year. Cultivation of the poppy had also begun in China. By the early 1900s, the national crop had increased to more than 22,000 tons a year, making China the world's foremost opium producer.

With the fall of the Qing Dynasty in 1911 and the growth of drug addiction in China, criminal elements began moving into Shanghai's foreign concessions in great numbers. Since extraterritorial rights granted the Western powers were still in operation, Chinese living in these concessions were subject only to that particular concession's laws.

Among the many groups to exploit this situation was the 'Green Gang', which occupied the French concession and conducted its vice operations undisturbed by the French government. A Green Gang member named Du Yuesheng eventually unified all the gangs into a syndicate trafficking in drugs. Tu came to be known as the Opium King, and was one of three bosses who were referred to as the Big Three.
The Green Gang syndicate was a thriving organisation in 1927, when Guomindang troops and Communist contingents marched north on an expedition to rid the country of warlords. On his approach to Shanghai Chiang Kai-shek, who was anxious to rid himself of the Communists, contacted Du Yuesheng for help. Du responded by recruiting thousands from Shanghai's underworld. When the workers' unions closed down the city in a massive strike to honour Chiang's victory, the thugs swarmed out of the French concession and fell on Communists, labour union members and innocent bystanders alike. Thousands were slaughtered in this bloody massacre.

After gaining control of China, Chiang continued his association with the Green Gang. He enlisted the Big Three as honorary advisers to his government and named Du Yuesheng a major general in the army. The drug traffic went on unabated not only in China, but as far away as the United States, where Shanghai heroine was being distributed by the Mafia.

In 1937, when Japan launched her invasion of China, the Guomindang retreated to Chongqing in Sichuan province. Although to all appearances Chiang and the Japanese militarists were at war, a great deal of trade took place between the invaders and the Nationalist Government; much of this traffic involved opium.

Japan had made opium a basic source of her revenue in the occupied territories. Chiang (with the help of Du Yuesheng) supplied the drug to Japan. Vast fields of red, pink and white poppies covered the foothill districts ofSichuan and Yunnan provinces, and great opium shipments travelled down the Yangzi to Shanghai, or over the Burma road to Southeast Asia.

After the Japanese defeat, civil war between the Guomindang and the Communists resumed. As the Communists swept south to Shanghai, the Green Gang and other criminal syndicates fled to Hong Kong; the Guomindang escaped to Taiwan. The People's Republic of China was founded.

By this time, there were literally millions of addicts in the country. The new government immediately set about coping with the monumental problem. Peasants were persuaded to plough in their opium crops and sow wheat or rice instead. Neighbourhoods were mobilised in a massive educational programme. The street committees which governed the neighbourhoods held study groups in which the evils of opium and heroin were discussed. Families of known addicts were educated not to blame their addict members, but to encourage them to seek help. Addicts themselves were impressed by the fact that they were not blamed for their addiction, since they were considered victims of foreign governments and other enemies of the people. After their cure, they were given training and then placed in paying jobs. Many of them were hired by the government to work with other addicts.

At the same time, pressure was placed on the dealers. Those who surrendered were accepted by the community, re-educated, trained for meaningful work and given jobs. The rest were packed off to prison, and the worst offenders were executed. By 1956, the People's Republic of China had virtually eliminated its drug problem.

From time to time, the Taiwan press has accused the People's Republic of smuggling opium across the border of Yunnan province into Southeast Asia. Such accusations are particularly curious in the light of the well-publicised fact that most of the opium traffic in these countries is carried on by remnants of the Guomindang forces. Fleeing across the border at the time of the Civil War, these forces expanded the cultivation of opium and monopolised the traffic until now they are known as the opium barons of the region.

As for any smuggling from Yunnan, the Shan tribesmen of the Burma hill countries - who know all the mountain trails - deny this vigorously. Some of the Shans are anti-Communists who have been employed as spies by the CIA. Between 1962 and 1967, these people penetrated deep into China's Yunnan province on espionage missions. They reported that legitimate agricultural crops were being grown in places where formerly there had been extensive poppy fields. But of poppy cultivation, they saw not a trace.

© Copyright Society for Anglo-Chinese Understanding (SACU) 2006 reprinted from SACU's magazine China Now 70, Page 17, March 1977
 
Re: China is at the best time ever in 5000 yrs history under The Chinese Communist Pa

KMT is corrupted....it was becos of this weakness that CCP has the opportunity to rise & take power.
 
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KMT is corrupted....it was becos of this weakness that CCP has the opportunity to rise & take power.

Yes, CCP took over and then became corrupted. So what's new? For these 2 corrupted gov, I prefer KMT then CCP. At least you get a chance to vote out the corrupted gov. CCP, you will have to take up arms to over throw them.
 
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Yes, CCP took over and then became corrupted. So what's new? For these 2 corrupted gov, I prefer KMT then CCP. At least you get a chance to vote out the corrupted gov. CCP, you will have to take up arms to over throw them.

Chinese are corrupted...regardless who is in power. thats the thing...since ancient dynasties it had been like that.
 
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Chinese are corrupted...regardless who is in power. thats the thing...since ancient dynasties it had been like that.

You think only limited to Chinese? Either you are an idiot or damn stupid. Have you watched the document show "Inside job 2010"? The USA is even more corrupted.

http://videos.sapo.pt/0CYs2VRCMqdkgJHh4G24
 
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