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Chitchat ChatGPT CEO Sam Altman Kicked Out by Board Members



In ousting CEO Sam Altman, ChatGPT loses its best fundraiser​


'Oversight of A.I.: Rules for Artificial Intelligence' Subcommittee hearing in Washington
Greg Bensinger
Fri, 17 November 2023 at 8:29 pm GMT-5

By Greg Bensinger
(Reuters) - Artificial intelligence may be well-known for generating human-like images out of whole cloth, but if the software has a public face it is Sam Altman’s.
The co-founder of OpenAI, which caused a sensation just a year ago with the introduction of ChatGPT, Altman has presented himself as the benevolent wizard behind the curtain of a technology that many say could upend entire industries and even mankind itself.
But on Friday it was the earnest Altman who was upended after OpenAI’s board, in a surprise move, stripped him of his CEO title and directorship. He is out.
Directors of the company, now worth about $80 billion, cited a failure to be "consistently candid in his communications."
Further details of what finally led to the ouster of Altman were not immediately clear Friday.
The company reassured staff that it would be fine without him, but the Silicon Valley superstar, who once ran the best known startup incubator YCombinator, or YC, leaves the company with a big hole to fill in its fundraising efforts: maintaining the software costs some very real money. It also takes talented engineers, who flocked to Altman.
Altman, 38, was plucky to the end of his run at OpenAI. He was seen mingling with attendees briefly at an AI conference in San Francisco on Wednesday, and the next day spoke on a panel with a top Meta executive at the ongoing APEC summit in San Francisco, while the board deliberated on his future.
In a post on AI-rival Elon Musk’s X, he said Friday of OpenAI: “I loved working with such talented people. Will have more to say about what’s next later.”
Altman is credited with almost singlehandedly convincing Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella to commit $10 billion to the company and leading the company's tender offer transactions this year that fueled a nearly three-fold valuation bump from $29 billion to over $80 billion.
His aura also helped attract AI engineering talent in what may be the most competitive market seen in tech circles in years. He successfully recruited from Google, Microsoft and other established tech giants with surer pay packages, promising to let them in on the ground floor of a world-altering technology.
That tech has since fueled concerns of doomsday scenarios where the software takes over the world, steals intellectual property with impunity and makes secondary education a hotbed of cheating or simply unnecessary; but Altman at an event on Thursday said "heavy regulation" wasn't needed for some time.
"At some point when the model can do like the equivalent output of a whole company, and then a whole country and then the whole world," such rules would be helpful, he said.
Altman grew up in St. Louis, Missouri and attended Stanford for one year, marking a tradition of sorts among tech titans of dropping out before getting their degrees. In addition to his efforts with OpenAI he started a cryptocurrency firm this year that scans people's irises for verification.
Altman’s moonshot ethos likely played well among ambitious engineers tired of toiling away for blue chip tech firms.
"As long as you are right, being misunderstood by most people is a strength not a weakness,” wrote Altman in a blog post three years ago. “You and a small group of rebels get the space to solve an important problem that might otherwise not get solved."


Alfrescian (Inf)
In case you don't know aleady, ChatGPT is now Microsoft's bitch.

My opinion is Microsoft anything = atrophy and decline.


November 23, 2023, Chamath Palihapitiya @chamath

On Friday, OpenAI ousted its co-founder Sam Altman as CEO. While OpenAI cites a lack of consistent candor in Altman’s dealings with the board as the key reason for his removal, there is widespread speculation about other motives behind his termination. These range from disputes concerning the profit vs nonprofit motives of the company to the discovery of artificial general intelligence, a type of AI that can surpass human intelligence for most tasks.

We wanted to look back at the history and corporate structure of OpenAI to understand how we got here. Here’s the story:

Inception and Early Strides (2015-2018)

OpenAI was initially founded in 2015 by Sam Altman, Elon Musk, Ilya Sutskever and Greg Brockman as a non-profit organization with the stated goal to “advance digital intelligence in the way that is most likely to benefit humanity as a whole.” The company assembled a team of the best researchers in the field of AI to pursue the goal of building AGI in a safe way.

The early years of OpenAI were marked with rapid experimentation. The company made significant progress on research in deep learning and reinforcement learning, and released ‘OpenAI Gym’ in 2016, a toolkit for developing and comparing reinforcement learning algorithms.

OpenAI showcased the capabilities of these reinforcement learning algorithms through its ‘OpenAI Five’ project in 2018, which trained five independent AI agents to play a complex multiplayer online battle arena game called ‘Dota 2’. Despite operating independently, these agents learned to work as a cohesive team to coordinate strategies within the game.

A crucial development occurred in June 2018. The company released a paper titled "Improving Language Understanding by Generative Pre-Training", which introduced the foundational architecture for the Generative Pre-trained Transformer model. This later evolved into ChatGPT, the company’s flagship product.

Transition From a Non-Profit (2019)

In 2019, OpenAI transitioned from a non-profit to a “capped-profit” model. According to the company’s blog post, OpenAI wanted to increase its ability to raise capital while still serving its mission, and “no pre-existing legal structure they knew of struck the right balance”. Per the IRS, for-profit entities and not-for-profit entities are fundamentally at odds with each other, so in order to combine the two competing concepts, OpenAI came up with a novel structure which allowed the non-profit to control the direction of a for-profit entity while providing the investors a "capped" upside of 100x. This culminated in a $1Bn investment from Microsoft, marking the beginning of a key strategic relationship, but complicating the company’s organizational structure and incentives.

The non-profit entity, OpenAI Inc., became the sole controlling shareholder of the new for-profit entity OpenAI Global LLC, which answered to the board of the nonprofit and retained a fiduciary responsibility to the company’s nonprofit charter. Crucially, the board was responsible for determining when OpenAI attained artificial general intelligence (AGI), which the company defines as a “highly autonomous system that outperforms humans at most economically valuable work.”

The structure of OpenAI is outlined below:

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Becoming ChatGPT (2020-2023)

In 2020, bolstered by new funding, OpenAI unveiled GPT-3, a large language model (LLM) capable of understanding and generating convincing human-like text. This was a watershed moment for OpenAI and the broader AI community. As the company grew, its LLMs continued to become larger and more intelligent.

However, OpenAI's innovation didn't stop with language models. In 2021, the company expanded its horizons by launching Codex, a specialized AI model for programming, and DALL-E, an AI system adept at creating original artwork from text descriptions.

December 2022 marked another major milestone for OpenAI with the release of GPT-3, laying the groundwork for the consumer-focused application ‘Chat-GPT’. Chat-GPT rapidly captured global attention, becoming the fastest app to amass 100 million users within just two months of its launch. Capitalizing on this success, OpenAI introduced a subscription model and unveiled its most sophisticated model yet, GPT-4, ~10x more advanced than its predecessor and capable of analyzing text, images, and voice. Further developer tools and a turbocharged version of GPT-4 were announced at the company’s Developer Day on November 6th, 2023.

Removing Sam Altman (2023)

On Friday, OpenAI announced that it was removing its co-founder Sam Altman as CEO, citing a lack of consistent candor in his communications with the company’s board. According to the company's official statement, the board “no longer has confidence in Altman’s ability to continue leading OpenAI.” OpenAI’s board of directors has undergone numerous changes since inception. Elon Musk resigned from his board seat in 2018, citing a “potential future conflict of interest” with Tesla’s AI development for driverless cars. Elon later expressed disappointment over the company’s for-profit motivations and dealings with Microsoft. Since Elon’s departure, a number of other board members have left the company, including former congressman Will Hurd who cited a Presidential bid, LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman over an investment conflict, and Neuralink director Shivon Zilis.

The remaining board members who removed Altman are:

- Adam D’Angelo - CEO of Quora
- Tasha McCauley - Co-Founder of Fellow Robotics and adjunct senior management scientist at RAND Corporation
- Ilya Sutskever - Co-Founder and Chief Scientist of OpenAI
- Helen Toner - Director of Strategy and Foundational Research Grants at Georgetown University’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology

Altman’s removal as CEO prompted the resignation of President and Co-Founder Greg Brockman and three of the company’s senior scientists. Reports suggest that this may have been orchestrated by the company’s other Co-Founder and Chief Scientist Ilya Sutskever over concerns that Altman was pushing to commercialize the company too quickly. Sutskever was recruited to OpenAI from Google in 2015 by Elon Musk, who describes him as “the linchpin for OpenAI being successful”. A tweet from Greg Brockman confirms that Ilya was a key figure in Altman’s removal.

Since OpenAI’s for-profit entity was ultimately accountable to the charter of its non-profit parent, its rapid commercialization may have conflicted with the company’s primary goal of developing AGI in a safe way. According to their 2019 IRS filings, OpenAI does not have a written joint venture policy but the company’s structure explicitly prioritizes the purposes of its nonprofit entity over maximizing profits, preventing OpenAI from engaging in activities that would jeopardize the company's non-profit status.

As of this writing at 3pm PST on 11/19/2023, there are reports that the board is negotiating for Sam’s return, though it remains to be seen how OpenAI overcomes the challenges of its competing profit and nonprofit interests.


While the details of Altman’s removal are still unfolding, it is becoming increasingly clear that OpenAI’s convoluted corporate structure led to conflicting motivations and incentives within the company. There is a key learning here. Whether you are a for-profit or non-profit entity, there are tried and true corporate structures to help you achieve your stated goal. Because just doing that is hard enough as it is. But once you decide what the goal is, you should work as hard as possible to achieve it; you should never compound unnecessary risk into this journey like iterating on corporate structure. While it can make a hero out of lawyers, it is one of these unnecessary risks that’s only blindingly obvious in the rear view mirror.


Alfrescian (Inf)
microshit poaching at least 690 of openai’s employee base of over 700 ai scientists plus altman and brockman. after billions of funding poured in by ms, they (alt and brock) were under pressure to monetize it rapidly as they started poaching the best ai brains from sillycon valley, namely gobbledygook. tesla preempted that by rewarding their ai scientists tons of stock. open ai under alt and brock not only wanted to secure first mover advantage but also fly far and above the competition with potential monopoly on llm and monetize it immediately with high premium subscription model for more advanced chatgpt and beyond. this conflicted with the original openai charter and mission, and (old) board buay song. new board cumming up as ms now calls the shits and will engineer a change of board members. alt and brock may be back on board (no pun intended). ceca ah neh ceo at ms is now seen as hero and kingmaker.


Alfrescian (Inf)
Microsoft anything inevitably becomes shit. See what happened to Linkedin and various other acquisitions made by Microsoft over the years.


Alfrescian (Inf)
Microsoft anything inevitably becomes shit. See what happened to Linkedin and various other acquisitions made by Microsoft over the years.
but their cloud platform is powderful and sextensive though. more competitive and efficient than amazon’s cloud platform which is supposed to have 1st mover advantage. also beats oracle and google cloud. every ai company or start up now wants to use ms cloud. for any ai platform to succeed it needs clout oops i mean cloud.