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Changes to cab fares around the corner, simpler fare structure expected

krafty

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<h1>Changes to cab fares around the corner, simpler fare structure expected</h1>
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<div class="byline">By Christopher Tan, Senior Transport Correspondent</div>
<p>Changes to cab fares are around the corner, with industry players expecting higher flagdown rates, bigger interval jumps but pared down surcharges.</p>
<p>According to a Zello-based taxi-driver chat group, Cabbie Korner, most cabs will have a standardised flagdown fare of $3.80, instead of rates ranging from $3.20 to $5 today.</p>
<p>Distance- and time-based interval jumps will be a uniform 30 cents, instead of the 22, 30 and 33 cents in place today.</p>
<p>Peak-hour surcharges will be dropped, but the midnight surcharge will remain, and location surcharges standardised.</p>
<p>The group also expects a flat monthly Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) levy of $150, regardless of the number of times a cabby crosses an ERP gantry.</p>
<p>At last count, there are close to 10 different flagdown fares, three different metered fare structures, and more than 10 different types of surcharges.</p>
<p>This prompted Senior Minister of State for Transport Josephine Teo to declare 12 months ago that the Government would look into simplifying the taxi fare structure.</p>
<p>The Straits Times understands the process has been slow because taxi fares have been deregulated since 1998.</p>
<p>This meant there was no central body coordinating changes and that the taxi companies were free to change fare structures.</p>
<p>Also, changes are likely to make certain groups of cabbies and commuters unhappy.</p>
<p>The Land Transport Authority (LTA) said nothing is on the table yet. "We are still studying and discussing with stakeholders the harmonisation of the taxi fare structure," an LTA spokesman said.</p>
<p>"The issue is complicated as the fare structure fundamentally reflects the different rental costs of different taxis. Different stakeholders, ranging from commuters, taxi-drivers to taxi companies, have different interests."</p>
<p>But the industry is certain that changes are afoot. "I smell something," said the managing director of one taxi firm. "We're all waiting for Comfort(DelGro) to make the first move. As the biggest player, it has to make the first move."</p>
<p>ComfortDelGro Corp said it does not comment on fare issues.</p>
<p>Cabbies have mixed reactions to the possible fare review.</p>
<p>Veteran taxi driver Victor Yow, 68, said: "To be honest, I'm quite happy with what's in place now.</p>
<p>"But do away with ERP charges. They are the reason why it's hard to get a cab at Lucky Plaza but easy to get one at Far East Plaza, why there are few cabs at Takashimaya but tons at Ion Orchard."</p>
<p>As for the typical dearth of cabs just before a surcharge kicks in, Mr Yow said: "That's normal."</p>
<p>He told The Straits Times that it is difficult to standardise fares because of the different rental rates levied for different cabs.</p>
<p>National Taxi Association adviser Ang Hin Kee said if fares are to be simplified, then rental and other charges levied on cabbies must be simplified too.</p>
<p>He noted that the association had proposed a fixed monthly charge for ERP.</p>
<p>Commuters feel differently. Financial consultant Lynn Chua, 42, finds the myriad of fares and surcharges "too confusing".</p>
<p>"It'll be good to have a standardised flagdown fare," the regular cab commuter said. "All cabs are the same, whether it's a (Hyundai) Sonata or Renault.</p>
<p>"Comfort level is the same, and they still take us to our destinations."</p>
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LTA must, control the "changing shifts" times...it seems that, 24 hours a day, they are changing shifts....& penalise those who abuse the 'BUSY" sign.....they seems to be BUSY, 24 hours a day too, allow only 3 times the use of the BUSY SIG, a day & stagger their meal times....they seem to be eating, 24 hours a day.

Allow the commuters to report those "pick & choose" taxi drivers...all have mobile phones these days with cameras, people can take the photo of the "offending" taxi...submit by an App to LTA...including those BUSY abusers, etc...:rolleyes:
 
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LTA must, control the "changing shifts" times...it seems that, 24 hours a day, they are changing shifts....& penalise those who abuse the 'BUSY" sign.....they seems to be BUSY, 24 hours a day too, allow only 3 times the use of the BUSY SIG, a day & stagger their meal times....they seem to be eating, 24 hours a day.

Allow the commuters to report those "pick & choose" taxi drivers...all have mobile phones these days with cameras, people can take the photo of the "offending" taxi...submit by an App to LTA...including those BUSY abusers, etc...:rolleyes:

Leave these people alone lah. Life is already so tough for them. They are self-employed people, not factory production workers. This should be a free whole for all.
 

johnny333

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Are the PAP taxes going down or are these costs being made simpler:confused:

You hear cases of disputes between tourist & cabbies over these charges. Some even lead to physical fights.
 

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<p>According to Zello-based taxi-driver chat group Cabbie Korner, most cabs will have a standardised flagdown fare of $3.80, instead of rates ranging from $3.20 to $5 today.</p>
<p>Distance and time-based interval jumps will be a uniform 30 cents, instead of 22, 30 and 33 cents in place today.</p>
<p>Peak-hour surcharges will be dropped, but the midnight surcharge will remain, and location surcharges standardised.</p>
<p>The group also expects a flat monthly Electronic Road Pricing levy of $150, regardless of the number of times a cabby crosses an ERP gantry.</p>
<p>At last count, there were close to 10 different flagdown fares, three different metered fare structures, and more than 10 different types of surcharges.</p>
<p>This prompted Senior Minister of State for Transport Josephine Teo to declare 12 months ago that the Government would look into simplifying the taxi-fare structure, which she said was "complex and confusing".</p>
<p>The Straits Times understands the process has been slow because taxi fares have been deregulated since 1998. Also, changes are likely to make certain groups of cabbies and commuters unhappy.</p>
<p>The Land Transport Authority said nothing is on the table yet.</p>
<p>"We are still studying and discussing with stakeholders the harmonisation of the taxi-fare structure," an LTA spokesman said.</p>
<p>"The issue is complicated as the fare structure fundamentally reflects the different rental costs of different taxis. Different stakeholders - ranging from commuters, taxi drivers to taxi companies - have different interests."</p>
<p>But the industry is certain that changes are afoot. "I smell something," said the managing director of one taxi firm.</p>
<p>"We're all waiting for Comfort to make the first move. As the biggest player, it has to make the first move."</p>
<p>ComfortDelGro said it does not comment on fare issues.</p>
<p>However, cabbies are having mixed reactions to the imminent fare review, going by their online posts.</p>
<p>Commenting on the slew of surcharges, veteran taxi driver Victor Yow said: "To be honest, I'm quite happy with what's in place now.</p>
<p>"But do away with ERP charges. They are the reason why it's hard to get a cab at Lucky Plaza but easy to get one at Far East Plaza; few cabs at Takashimaya but tonnes at ION Orchard."</p>
<p>As for the typical dearth of cabs just before a surcharge kicks in, Mr Yow said: "That's normal. That's to be expected."</p>
<p>The 68-year-old told The Straits Times that it is difficult to standardise fares because of the different rental rates levied for different cabs.</p>
<p>National Taxi Association adviser Ang Hin Kee said if fares are to be simplified, then rental and other charges levied on cabbies must be simplified too. He noted that the association had proposed a fixed monthly charge for ERP.</p>
<p>Commuters feel differently. Financial consultant Lynn Chua, 42, finds the myriad of fares and surcharges "too confusing", adding that the authorities should intervene.</p>
<p>"It'll be good to have a standardised flagdown fare," the regular cab commuter said. "All cabs are the same, whether it's a (Hyundai) Sonata or Renault.</p>
<p>"The comfort level is the same, and they still take us to our destination."</p>
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halsey02

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Leave these people alone lah. Life is already so tough for them. They are self-employed people, not factory production workers. This should be a free whole for all.

It is frustrating , when you need a taxi...they are (1) They pick & choose, (2) always BUSY, (3) Changing shifts from 06:00 to 0:00hrs, (4) Waiting for extra fees to kick in & (5) Going for meals from 06:00 to 0:00hrs.... & yet, you tell you, it is hard to be a taxi driver...have to work xx hrs to pay for rental....yet!!...?? there must be something wrong with the equation...& you read they can make $7,000 a month...

??? :rolleyes:
 

krafty

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i myself take cab, there was once my friend gave me a lift to yio chu kang after ktv tango, it was 4am, no cabs in sight. then, i flag down one and the cab driver wind down his window and told me he is on his way home, asked me where i going and he said not on his way. i pleaded with him and he gave me a lift. sometimes, you have to be humble pie to take taxi...:o

It is frustrating , when you need a taxi...they are (1) They pick & choose, (2) always BUSY, (3) Changing shifts from 06:00 to 0:00hrs, (4) Waiting for extra fees to kick in & (5) Going for meals from 06:00 to 0:00hrs.... & yet, you tell you, it is hard to be a taxi driver...have to work xx hrs to pay for rental....yet!!...?? there must be something wrong with the equation...& you read they can make $7,000 a month...

??? :rolleyes:
 

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i myself take cab, there was once my friend gave me a lift to yio chu kang after ktv tango, it was 4am, no cabs in sight. then, i flag down one and the cab driver wind down his window and told me he is on his way home, asked me where i going and he said not on his way. i pleaded with him and he gave me a lift. sometimes, you have to be humble pie to take taxi...:o

i seldom take taxi, can walk just walk.
can take bus just take bus. can take train just take train.

why take taxi?
 

krafty

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take taxi can exchange pointers thru conversation with the driver. i learnt something each time i take taxi.:o

i seldom take taxi, can walk just walk.
can take bus just take bus. can take train just take train.

why take taxi?
 

halsey02

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i myself take cab, there was once my friend gave me a lift to yio chu kang after ktv tango, it was 4am, no cabs in sight. then, i flag down one and the cab driver wind down his window and told me he is on his way home, asked me where i going and he said not on his way. i pleaded with him and he gave me a lift. sometimes, you have to be humble pie to take taxi...:o

I have nothing against Taxi drivers here...except I really do not understand the equation....it is common to see long queues of taxis at the taxi stand no passengers, long queues of passengers & no taxis, & when they do arrive it is, BUSY, ON CALL, CHANGING SHIFT, like you say, on the way home...going for meals.... but from 0:00 hrs to 06:00 hrs you hear the same thing...

I have sat near by the road side in woodlands & observed a person trying to flag a taxi....I counted, 3 changing shifts, 6 BUSY, 2 On calls, none empty...& for 1/2 hr.

It is not the "humble pie" thing...you can wave a $10,000 note....they are BUSY!! :rolleyes:
 

krafty

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the time frame that you are taking cab is probably change shift time. just remember, from 4pm onwards daily, you can expect taxi drivers to ask you where you going at taxi stands, the morning shift after peak hours, i know many morning drivers heading home to nap for later shift in the day. other than these timings and if he say he is changing shift, he is likely to be lying cos' he is picking customers based on his preference for the purpose of making trips only in the city area. you can lodge a complaint if that happen.


I have nothing against Taxi drivers here...except I really do not understand the equation....it is common to see long queues of taxis at the taxi stand no passengers, long queues of passengers & no taxis, & when they do arrive it is, BUSY, ON CALL, CHANGING SHIFT, like you say, on the way home...going for meals.... but from 0:00 hrs to 06:00 hrs you hear the same thing...

I have sat near by the road side in woodlands & observed a person trying to flag a taxi....I counted, 3 changing shifts, 6 BUSY, 2 On calls, none empty...& for 1/2 hr.

It is not the "humble pie" thing...you can wave a $10,000 note....they are BUSY!! :rolleyes:
 

JackyCheung

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btw jacky new song not nice, this one still classic.

[video=youtube;OKr9zAioFIg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKr9zAioFIg[/video]
 

Cestbon

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Everyone want to take cab during peak. Of course there will be taxi shortage.
Do u all see during peak hour taxi park lim kopi?? No right.
 

krafty

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the 30 cents jump is considered a fare increase, i think they did right this time. i have some awkward situations that i need to explain to foreign tourists about the surcharges. CBD+Peak hour+base fare...maciam like a mechanical cow preacher.:o
 
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