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CDF : We will buy F35B....

The problem is the F35 is a damn incapable fighter. It cannot survive in a one on one with a mig 29. Or SU 27. Its stealth capabilities is also suspect.

korea still undecided and now most likely buying F-35 because they drop F-15 recently. Japan delay buying because of rising cost. If japan dun buy the only 5th generation fighter, how is she going to deal with china?
 
bloody hell. another "save face" and "carry balls" exercise for SG, PAP and MINDEF.

save face because they insist on buying the overpriced F35 to prove to the world that SG made the right decision.

carry balls because USA is SG's staunch ally.
 
bloody hell. another "save face" and "carry balls" exercise for SG, PAP and MINDEF.

save face because they insist on buying the overpriced F35 to prove to the world that SG made the right decision.

carry balls because USA is SG's staunch ally.

F-35 won't be overpriced if Singapore buys many. Demand and supply. PAP doing uncle sam a favour
 
The problem is the F35 is a damn incapable fighter. It cannot survive in a one on one with a mig 29. Or SU 27. Its stealth capabilities is also suspect.

hard to compare a fighter that is not finished yet.
 
How many can singapore buy to bring the price down? In order for the price to go down, alot of countries must buy..the Japs, Kim Chees, oz and those yankee allies in europe,,buy a huge amount than price will drop,,but the performance of the F35 is suspect...it might be shot down easily by the newer or even current Russian fighters..Even the F15 will hold its own against the F35. The only edge the F35 have against a more powderful adversary is its stealth,,if a current 4 or 4.5 gen aircraft cant see it, than the F35 can get a lock and shoot it down, however if the opposing aircraft gets close than in a dog fight,,,F35 will be out maneuvered.

F-35 won't be overpriced if Singapore buys many. Demand and supply. PAP doing uncle sam a favour
 
F-35 won't be overpriced if Singapore buys many. Demand and supply. PAP doing uncle sam a favour

Bo pian,......


You want the biggest global gangster to start kong siao kong pi....start some internal strife shit and at the same time, start to boow the whistle on your half fucked regulated financial industry? They will start to say singapore is doing massive money laundering la,....a lot of tax evasion and drug trafficking money ends up here la,....helping corrupted regimes stash their cash la........ Is a transhipment point for a lot of nuclear proliferation and WmD la...... Is doing illegal trading against the enemies of the american state la.......

Thefucking americans are broke and this is just a way for them to come knocking on the door to collect some kuah tau lUi....sinkapore dont buy you just see wtf happens lor...the cheebye americans will come and chueh your taichi liao.....


Sinkapore disenfranchised because china dont regard as family but outsider....so now after being rejected sinkapore decided to swing all the way to the other side,.......let them open naval base la....let them sukasuka land their fucking milititary and other secret ops aircraft la.....maybe even open arendition interchange centre out of this area or evenhold all kinds of suspected terrorists here for some good old water boarding torture here ..... All they really need is a cage 3strong guys, plastic cuffs and a lot of seawater......?
 
Commentary: The road to getting the F-35s up and ready for Singapore
The US Department of Defence announced an approval of sale of up to 12 F-35s to Singapore on Friday. The Republic of Singapore Air Force will face challenges operationalising this advanced fighter jet once it takes delivery. Mike Yeo paints what the road ahead looks like.
Minister for Defence Ng Eng Hen (centre) watching the flypast at the RSAF50 @ Marina Barrage preview event on Tuesday (Aug 7). (Photo: MINDEF)Bookmark
MELBOURNE: As history has shown us, it is one thing for militaries to buy advanced, high-tech weaponry that look good at national parades, it is another to be able to use it effectively and decisively when push comes to shove.
From the decisive defeats Israel inflicted on the well-equipped Arab armies in 1967 and 1973, to the Saudi-led coalition’s ongoing struggle to defeat Houthi insurgents in Yemen despite the oil-rich kingdom being the world’s top arms importer between 2014 and 2018 - there is ample evidence showing militaries need to focus on adequately training and integrating new platforms to become an effective fighting force.
The challenge of gaining proficiency on, and integrating a new, technologically advanced platform is not new to the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF).
Singapore’s impending purchase of the Lockheed-Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter will however present a new test of the SAF’s ability to successfully do so.
That purchase moved one step closer to reality when the US Department of Defence announced an approval of a sale of up to 12 F-35s and related equipment to Singapore on Friday (Jan 10).
A US Marine Corps Lockheed Martin F-35B fighter jet hovers over the runway at the Farnborough International Airshow. (File photo: REUTERS/Peter Nicholls)
A GAME-CHANGING FIGHTER JET
As has been described before, the F-35 suite of stealthy networking capabilities will be a game-changer, with the potential to radically transform how militaries operate not just in the air but in the land and sea domains as well.
The F-35B variant, which Singapore has requested to purchase, has also a lift fan, essentially a second engine that directs additional thrust downwards, that allows the fighter jet to take off and land vertically, without the need for a long runway.
For land-scarce Singapore, merging three airbases into two in the near future, this added capability will give the country a needed boost in its air power generation capabilities.
READ: Commentary: The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter will change the rules of the air power game

Coupled with the SAF’s push in recent years to transform itself into a networked force, the need to fully utilise the F-35’s game-changing technology and ensure it is fully integrated into the SAF will take on an added layer of importance and potential complexity.
So how would the F-35’s introduction to service look like?
THE TRAINING NEEDED TO GET PILOTS UP TO SPEED
Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen has previously said Singapore’s F-16s will start to be phased out around 2030.
By this time, the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF)’s future F-35 pilots would have started training on the jet, with Singapore’s first handful of aircraft having already been delivered, almost certainly at an overseas training detachment.
At first glance, the prime candidate for this training detachment would appear to be Luke Air Force Base just outside of Phoenix, Arizona.
An F-15SG at Luke Air Force Base. (Photo: Aqil Haziq Mahmud)
The base is where the RSAF’s Peace Carvin II F-16 training detachment is located, having been there continually over more than two decades, and is also where the US Air Force’s Air Education and Training Command will train American and international F-35 pilots for the foreseeable future.
However, the USAF and most international users will operate the conventional take-off and landing F-35A variant.
Hence, it might make more sense to set up a training detachment at one of the US Marine Corps’ bases, given that the Marines are the service operating the F-35B and the RSAF can leverage on their experience on the unique capabilities of the F-35B – the same model the UK and Italy employ, and which Japan has also ordered.
Between 2015 and last August, the UK Royal Air Force operated a small detachment of its aircraft alongside a Marine F-35B training squadron at Marine Combat Air Station (MCAS) Beaufort in South Carolina for crew training purposes, before heading back home last year.
READ: Singapore, US sign agreement for RSAF training detachment in Guam
Given that the infrastructure, such as simulators and other support equipment at bases like Beaufort (or MCAS Yuma in Arizona where the Marines will also be basing F-35Bs at) will be specific to the F-35B, the case for the RSAF setting up a training detachment at these bases is stronger than anywhere else.
Training may also involve partnership programmes with friendly air forces that have purchased the F-35B variant – which on top of the US and UK, include Italy and Australia, countries that the RSAF have very friendly ties with and have training spaces in or made training deployments to.
 
US General Carlisle reveals to the Defense writers group. Japan and S. Korea are likely to give F35 a miss due to high cost.
Japan already got their f-35's. One even crashed. Pilot did not survive.

In fact japan buying more to put on their helicopter ships. The f-35b vtol.
 
Commentary: The road to getting the F-35s up and ready for Singapore
The US Department of Defence announced an approval of sale of up to 12 F-35s to Singapore on Friday. The Republic of Singapore Air Force will face challenges operationalising this advanced fighter jet once it takes delivery. Mike Yeo paints what the road ahead looks like.
Minister for Defence Ng Eng Hen (centre) watching the flypast at the RSAF50 @ Marina Barrage preview event on Tuesday (Aug 7). (Photo: MINDEF)Bookmark
MELBOURNE: As history has shown us, it is one thing for militaries to buy advanced, high-tech weaponry that look good at national parades, it is another to be able to use it effectively and decisively when push comes to shove.
From the decisive defeats Israel inflicted on the well-equipped Arab armies in 1967 and 1973, to the Saudi-led coalition’s ongoing struggle to defeat Houthi insurgents in Yemen despite the oil-rich kingdom being the world’s top arms importer between 2014 and 2018 - there is ample evidence showing militaries need to focus on adequately training and integrating new platforms to become an effective fighting force.
The challenge of gaining proficiency on, and integrating a new, technologically advanced platform is not new to the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF).
Singapore’s impending purchase of the Lockheed-Martin F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter will however present a new test of the SAF’s ability to successfully do so.
That purchase moved one step closer to reality when the US Department of Defence announced an approval of a sale of up to 12 F-35s and related equipment to Singapore on Friday (Jan 10).
A US Marine Corps Lockheed Martin F-35B fighter jet hovers over the runway at the Farnborough International Airshow. (File photo: REUTERS/Peter Nicholls)
A GAME-CHANGING FIGHTER JET
As has been described before, the F-35 suite of stealthy networking capabilities will be a game-changer, with the potential to radically transform how militaries operate not just in the air but in the land and sea domains as well.
The F-35B variant, which Singapore has requested to purchase, has also a lift fan, essentially a second engine that directs additional thrust downwards, that allows the fighter jet to take off and land vertically, without the need for a long runway.
For land-scarce Singapore, merging three airbases into two in the near future, this added capability will give the country a needed boost in its air power generation capabilities.
READ: Commentary: The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter will change the rules of the air power game

Coupled with the SAF’s push in recent years to transform itself into a networked force, the need to fully utilise the F-35’s game-changing technology and ensure it is fully integrated into the SAF will take on an added layer of importance and potential complexity.
So how would the F-35’s introduction to service look like?
THE TRAINING NEEDED TO GET PILOTS UP TO SPEED
Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen has previously said Singapore’s F-16s will start to be phased out around 2030.
By this time, the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF)’s future F-35 pilots would have started training on the jet, with Singapore’s first handful of aircraft having already been delivered, almost certainly at an overseas training detachment.
At first glance, the prime candidate for this training detachment would appear to be Luke Air Force Base just outside of Phoenix, Arizona.
An F-15SG at Luke Air Force Base. (Photo: Aqil Haziq Mahmud)
The base is where the RSAF’s Peace Carvin II F-16 training detachment is located, having been there continually over more than two decades, and is also where the US Air Force’s Air Education and Training Command will train American and international F-35 pilots for the foreseeable future.
However, the USAF and most international users will operate the conventional take-off and landing F-35A variant.
Hence, it might make more sense to set up a training detachment at one of the US Marine Corps’ bases, given that the Marines are the service operating the F-35B and the RSAF can leverage on their experience on the unique capabilities of the F-35B – the same model the UK and Italy employ, and which Japan has also ordered.
Between 2015 and last August, the UK Royal Air Force operated a small detachment of its aircraft alongside a Marine F-35B training squadron at Marine Combat Air Station (MCAS) Beaufort in South Carolina for crew training purposes, before heading back home last year.
READ: Singapore, US sign agreement for RSAF training detachment in Guam
Given that the infrastructure, such as simulators and other support equipment at bases like Beaufort (or MCAS Yuma in Arizona where the Marines will also be basing F-35Bs at) will be specific to the F-35B, the case for the RSAF setting up a training detachment at these bases is stronger than anywhere else.
Training may also involve partnership programmes with friendly air forces that have purchased the F-35B variant – which on top of the US and UK, include Italy and Australia, countries that the RSAF have very friendly ties with and have training spaces in or made training deployments to.

All these talking heads still never explain WHY stinkapore need this plane. Who is it being used against? Where is the threat such that this plane is needed?
 
SG has closer military ties with PRC over the years. USA not worried, still sell SG the advanced military weapons ?
 
SG has closer military ties with PRC over the years. USA not worried, still sell SG the advanced military weapons ?

Sinkieland is carefully straddling both sides.

When the South China Sea war breaks out, things will get very interesting. The entire Jurong Island can be converted into a new third integrated resort.

Maybe by then PM Heng Swee Keat will show his leadership, and Chan Chun Sing will be the Defence Minister. :biggrin:

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Helloooo Escher.... kenna dig out of yr graveyard out into the open... tioboh....

LKY 0: 1 escher.

When a man died he leaves behind his name... rigthdio..

U left and leave behind yr name but raise again to claim yr glory....

U are a piece of shit...

:FU: :FU: :FU: :FU: :FU: :FU: :FU: :FU: :FU: :FU: :FU: :FU:

Why the fuck should they be sacked?

WHO ARE THE FUCK HEADS WHO PUT THEM THERE!

WHO ARE THE IDIOTS WHO ELECTED THOSE FUCK HEADS WHO PUT THEM THERE?

IF SINKIES DO NOT KNOW HOW TO KICK OUT THOSE PAP WALKING BAGS OF EXCREMENT, WHY DO YOU BLAME THEM FOR LINING THEIR POCKETS?

THATS BEING DONE FOR FUCKING DECADES AND DECADES BY SMEAR OF SHIT ON SOLE OF SHOE LKY

WHO WENT ON TO BASTARDISE AND TRANSMOGRIFIED ALL ORGANS OF GOVERNMENT INTO LKY GARBERMENT TO LINE \HIS OWN FUCKING POCKETS TOGETHER WITH MILLIONS TO HIS CRONIES AND KANGAROOS

THEY WILL PLAY UNTIL THEY ARE ALL KICKED OUT
 
Another good news. GST will increase from 7% to 9%.
Pride of PAP!
 
Which RSAF combat aircraft has ever shot its armaments in hostile action ever since we are independent?

NONE! ZERO! ZILCH! NADA!!!! F35 is going to be a white elephant and used only for NDP.

Don't waste our fucking money can or not you useless ballsless generals!

Give back our CPF at55!!!!
 
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