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[BREAKING] The Inevitable Collapse of China
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China failing. India failing.
Don't worry, PAP will keep Sinkyland floating. Majullah PAP!
Don't worry, PAP will keep Sinkyland floating. Majullah PAP!
Strong, incorruptible and wise leadership is what we have in Singapore from the Exceptional Family. Singapore is safe indeed.
That is sure of course. PAP is bestest! You can never go wrong when Sinkies vote PAP into powerStrong, incorruptible and wise leadership is what we have in Singapore from the Exceptional Family. Singapore is safe indeed.
I remember as a young boy growing up in the 60s, many predictions were made from time to time by western China detractors about the eventual implosion breakdown or collapse of the communist China. Now I ah pek oredi and I am still waiting. Lol. Instead the USA is itself united in name only. 
Fake news...where have I heard tat b4?
Whynthink so much. Make your money in Tiongland, diversify your asset cuntry portfolio. Job done. Collapse or not, can't be botheredI remember as a young boy growing up in the 60s, many predictions were made from time to time by western China detractors about the eventual implosion breakdown or collapse of the communist China. Now I ah pek oredi and I am still waiting. Lol. Instead the USA is itself united in name only.
Well saidI remember as a young boy growing up in the 60s, many predictions were made from time to time by western China detractors about the eventual implosion breakdown or collapse of the communist China. Now I ah pek oredi and I am still waiting. Lol. Instead the USA is itself united in name only.
Then who wilo the racist sinkie chinks worship next? They already betrayed both hongkies and taiwanese by sucking cccp dick
There's no such thing as perpetual enemies... Mahatir and Anwar is the best example.
The proper saying is "In politics, there are no permanent Friends or permanent enemies
Like our local parties..driver n co-driver ya.
China will STAY AS SUPERPOWER and die when Global Resources GOT EXHAUSTED by CHINESE CONSUMPTION.
All THE REST WILL DIE FIRST, in Chinese Hands. Chinese consumption and 1B1R progress will finish off global resources 100X faster than when Chow Ang Mohs were squandering resources. Chow Ang Mohs are now too weak too poor and too FUCKED UP to continue.
All THE REST WILL DIE FIRST, in Chinese Hands. Chinese consumption and 1B1R progress will finish off global resources 100X faster than when Chow Ang Mohs were squandering resources. Chow Ang Mohs are now too weak too poor and too FUCKED UP to continue.
which year collapse? from 90s already got professor this or professor that predict ah tiong collapse. almost 30 years still standing leh.
Stinkie chinks are kafir bastards whose raison d'être is to serve ang moh kia. They worship ang moh kias, they learn ang moh languages in order to ingratiate themselves with ang mohs, wear ang moh clothing, follow ang moh legal system, ang moh education, copy ang moh names, calling themselves john tan or eugene wong or chris leong or whatever other john bob jim chin/chan/chong/wong/kong combo you could cook up.
They become christians, only because ang mohs do so. Their women get fucked by ang mohs and think that makes them cool and atas. Their men are faggots and join pink dot movements, again coz ang mohs do so.
There is not a single aspect of life in which these inferior slant eyed flat faced tiny peckered bastard race of mongoloid coolies has not imitated or copied their ang moh masters, who they see as their superior.
All said and done, even if stinkies were to all die in a huge epidemic or a minor nuclear weapons blast over stinkiepore, the world won't notice and would move on.
It's a totally irrelevant place today even within the context of utterly backward, powerless, irrelevant and useless ASEAN.
Ultimately, an inferior race can only produce inferior output.
You can't expect a country where chinks and ah nehs populate the country to do any better.
Thanks in no small part to eunuch ah loong and whore jinx and the other assortment of chinks and ah nehs, this is what stinkiepore has turned into.
It's from Vagabond, the k-drama shot mostly in morocco which made the drama quite interesting to watch.
The Coming Collapse of China - Wikipedia
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The Coming Collapse of China is a book by Gordon G. Chang, published in 2001, in which he argues that the Communist Party of China is the root cause of many of the People's Republic of China's problems and will cause its collapse in the near future.
Author: Gordon G. Chang
Publication date: 2001
LOL..
https://asia.nikkei.com/Opinion/Chi...date=20191114234600&seq_num=10&si=%%user_id%%
China's economy is in more trouble than markets think
Signs of weakness are emerging from companies, central bank and trade talks
William Pesek November 11, 2019 03:00 JST
Empty auto showrooms may be the most obvious economic indicator. ©Reuters
China's economic slowdown just got real. The world is well aware that Asia's biggest economy is growing at its slowest pace since 1992. The 6% growth in gross domestic product recorded for July to September reflects a rapid weakening of demand from abroad as the trade war damages production.
Yet three developments last week suggest China may be in more trouble than President Xi Jinping's government admits.
First, warning signs are flashing over corporate profits. Beijing's official data on GDP, inflation and production often generate doubt, but China Inc.'s deterioration is unmistakable.
Last week, the Nikkei Asian Review detected cratering profits in the first nine months of 2019 across a broad range of pivotal industries. Carmakers, commodity producers, bricks-and-mortar retailers and some property developers are in the red -- dramatically, in certain cases.
These are all the sectors any government would target to support growth, yet each is caught between U.S. President Donald Trump's trade war and Xi Jinping's attack on financial excess. Along with the trade fallout, industries including autos are smarting as the government cuts subsidies.
Empty auto showrooms may be the most obvious economic indicator: Nikkei reported a year-on-year drop in net profits of almost a third at 161 auto-related domestically listed companies in the first nine months of 2019.
More broadly, said research company Shanghai DZH, aggregate net profits of more than 3,600 nonfinancial names fell 2.2% during that period.
This is not an epic decline, but it belies the conventional wisdom that growth is stabilizing. Instead, Xi's team has a traction problem. Traditional pump-priming -- public works spending, tax cuts, local-government debt issuance -- is not working its magic.
This has the central bank springing into action, our second indication China Inc. is reeling. In recent months, the People's Bank of China stayed largely in the background as GDP dipped toward 5% territory. That changed last week when Governor Yi Gang cut interest rates on one-year loans.
That was not a massive easing -- from 3.3% to 3.25%. Yet PBOC watchers are now wagering on reductions in the benchmark lending rate. So far, says analyst Andrew Batson of Gavekal Research, the PBOC has been focused on "selective easing," or incremental rate moves to reduce strains in credit markets.
"It is almost as if their plan is to kill economic pessimism by inflicting the infamous death by a thousand cuts," he says.
The five-basis-point cut in one-year rates hints at a more assertive posture. It is a balancing act, though. Since taking the helm in March 2018, Yi has sought to wean state-owned enterprises and banks off excessive stimulus. The concern is that banks would resume lending to their riskiest borrowers; bad loans jumped 4.3% in the third quarter.
The concern is banks would resume lending to their riskiest borrowers. ©Reuters
The trade war is forcing Yi's hand. Factory prices are veering toward outright deflation. Not Japan-like "lost decade" stuff, but the 1.2% drop in producer prices in September year-on-year is more alarming than the fall in corporate profits.
The third indicator of trouble is that Xi wants to make a deal. In recent months, Trump tried to claim Washington and Beijing were on the verge of a giant trade pact -- only to see Beijing deny it. Last week, it was Xi's team moving markets with talk of detente. On November 7, both sides confirmed tariffs may be rolled back in a "phase one" trade deal.
It is far from the comprehensive redesign of Sino-U.S. dynamics Trump promised -- more like a face-saving strategy than the realignment of advantages or incentives. Yet it would be a boon for export-dependent Asia and trade-battle-weary markets.
Like Trump, Xi is keen to rack up his own wins on the global stage. A clear one last week was French leader Emmanuel Macron jetting to Beijing. In decades past, European leaders would raise global concerns on trade, climate change and Iran with the American president. Macron seeking an audience with Xi instead had plenty of geostrategic symbolism.
Emmanuel Macron seeking an audience with Xi Jinping had plenty of geostrategic symbolism. @AP
Ending outright trade hostilities would buttress China's trustworthiness as a more stable partner than Trump Nation and would set China aside from the anti-free trade crowd.
That crowd includes Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who last week wrecked India's standing in this regard by rejecting the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership trade deal. Japan's Shinzo Abe is squandering Tokyo's capitalist street cred in his bilateral brawl with South Korea.
In the short run, a truce with Trump relieves pressure on China's all-important export sector so that Beijing can keep growth north of 6%. Longer term, it allows Xi's team to prepare China Inc. to dominate the future of automation, renewable energy, biotechnology and self-driving vehicles.
Neither outcome is likely, though, if Xi limps into the new year. Warning signs emanating from corporate China demand immediate attention. The good news is that the PBOC seems to be on the case, as does Xi's trade negotiation team.
It is no sure bet, though, that Xi and Trump will suspend the hostilities. Trump's policies are a study in chaos and incoherence. One thing is clear: China must act assertively to get ahead of mounting risks to its economic trajectory.
China's economy is in more trouble than markets think
Signs of weakness are emerging from companies, central bank and trade talks
William Pesek November 11, 2019 03:00 JST
Empty auto showrooms may be the most obvious economic indicator. ©Reuters
China's economic slowdown just got real. The world is well aware that Asia's biggest economy is growing at its slowest pace since 1992. The 6% growth in gross domestic product recorded for July to September reflects a rapid weakening of demand from abroad as the trade war damages production.
Yet three developments last week suggest China may be in more trouble than President Xi Jinping's government admits.
First, warning signs are flashing over corporate profits. Beijing's official data on GDP, inflation and production often generate doubt, but China Inc.'s deterioration is unmistakable.
Last week, the Nikkei Asian Review detected cratering profits in the first nine months of 2019 across a broad range of pivotal industries. Carmakers, commodity producers, bricks-and-mortar retailers and some property developers are in the red -- dramatically, in certain cases.
These are all the sectors any government would target to support growth, yet each is caught between U.S. President Donald Trump's trade war and Xi Jinping's attack on financial excess. Along with the trade fallout, industries including autos are smarting as the government cuts subsidies.
Empty auto showrooms may be the most obvious economic indicator: Nikkei reported a year-on-year drop in net profits of almost a third at 161 auto-related domestically listed companies in the first nine months of 2019.
More broadly, said research company Shanghai DZH, aggregate net profits of more than 3,600 nonfinancial names fell 2.2% during that period.
This is not an epic decline, but it belies the conventional wisdom that growth is stabilizing. Instead, Xi's team has a traction problem. Traditional pump-priming -- public works spending, tax cuts, local-government debt issuance -- is not working its magic.
This has the central bank springing into action, our second indication China Inc. is reeling. In recent months, the People's Bank of China stayed largely in the background as GDP dipped toward 5% territory. That changed last week when Governor Yi Gang cut interest rates on one-year loans.
That was not a massive easing -- from 3.3% to 3.25%. Yet PBOC watchers are now wagering on reductions in the benchmark lending rate. So far, says analyst Andrew Batson of Gavekal Research, the PBOC has been focused on "selective easing," or incremental rate moves to reduce strains in credit markets.
"It is almost as if their plan is to kill economic pessimism by inflicting the infamous death by a thousand cuts," he says.
The five-basis-point cut in one-year rates hints at a more assertive posture. It is a balancing act, though. Since taking the helm in March 2018, Yi has sought to wean state-owned enterprises and banks off excessive stimulus. The concern is that banks would resume lending to their riskiest borrowers; bad loans jumped 4.3% in the third quarter.
The concern is banks would resume lending to their riskiest borrowers. ©Reuters
The trade war is forcing Yi's hand. Factory prices are veering toward outright deflation. Not Japan-like "lost decade" stuff, but the 1.2% drop in producer prices in September year-on-year is more alarming than the fall in corporate profits.
The third indicator of trouble is that Xi wants to make a deal. In recent months, Trump tried to claim Washington and Beijing were on the verge of a giant trade pact -- only to see Beijing deny it. Last week, it was Xi's team moving markets with talk of detente. On November 7, both sides confirmed tariffs may be rolled back in a "phase one" trade deal.
It is far from the comprehensive redesign of Sino-U.S. dynamics Trump promised -- more like a face-saving strategy than the realignment of advantages or incentives. Yet it would be a boon for export-dependent Asia and trade-battle-weary markets.
Like Trump, Xi is keen to rack up his own wins on the global stage. A clear one last week was French leader Emmanuel Macron jetting to Beijing. In decades past, European leaders would raise global concerns on trade, climate change and Iran with the American president. Macron seeking an audience with Xi instead had plenty of geostrategic symbolism.
Emmanuel Macron seeking an audience with Xi Jinping had plenty of geostrategic symbolism. @AP
Ending outright trade hostilities would buttress China's trustworthiness as a more stable partner than Trump Nation and would set China aside from the anti-free trade crowd.
That crowd includes Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who last week wrecked India's standing in this regard by rejecting the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership trade deal. Japan's Shinzo Abe is squandering Tokyo's capitalist street cred in his bilateral brawl with South Korea.
In the short run, a truce with Trump relieves pressure on China's all-important export sector so that Beijing can keep growth north of 6%. Longer term, it allows Xi's team to prepare China Inc. to dominate the future of automation, renewable energy, biotechnology and self-driving vehicles.
Neither outcome is likely, though, if Xi limps into the new year. Warning signs emanating from corporate China demand immediate attention. The good news is that the PBOC seems to be on the case, as does Xi's trade negotiation team.
It is no sure bet, though, that Xi and Trump will suspend the hostilities. Trump's policies are a study in chaos and incoherence. One thing is clear: China must act assertively to get ahead of mounting risks to its economic trajectory.
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