rumor has it that many of salami sodomani supporters were also on the plane. purge of sodomani supporters within iran has begun.
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Chitchat Boeing 737 Crashed In Iran! 82 Persians Killed! Ayatollah's Missile Anyhow Shot Down Civilian Plane? LOL!
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If Iran did shoot down the plane. It will be better for the yanks to pursue this matter in international court, the un etc..it will damage their international standing n discredit them even more
If its true, this incident could be the spark that will bring down the ayatollahs.
I believe most of the "Canadians" onboard were of Iranian descent.
Interesting rumour, does it follow that sul was betrayed by his own kind to the Americans/Israelis?
One day it will be an SIA plane then PAP will be so screwed.
This is karma? For ukraine shooting down mh17. God is certainly great.
don’t know. iran must be divided with too many factions vying for power.
There is no need to shoot down a entire plane just to exterminate a few people.
It was an act of god
Iran says it 'unintentionally' shot down Ukrainian jetliner
NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran announced Saturday that its military “unintentionally” shot down the Ukrainian jetliner that crashed earlier this week, killing all 176 aboard, after the government had repeatedly denied Western accusations that it was responsible.
The plane was shot down early Wednesday, hours after Iran launched a ballistic missile attack on two military bases housing U.S. troops in Iraq in retaliation for the killing of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in an American airstrike in Baghdad. No one was wounded in the attack on the bases.
A military statement carried by state media said the plane was mistaken for a “hostile target” after it turned toward a “sensitive military center” of the Revolutionary Guard. The military was at its “highest level of readiness," it said, amid the heightened tensions with the United States.
“In such a condition, because of human error and in a unintentional way, the flight was hit,” the military said. It apologized and said it would upgrade its systems to prevent future tragedies.
It also said those responsible for the strike on the plane would be prosecuted.
Iran's acknowledgement of responsibility for the crash was likely to inflame public sentiment against authorities after Iranians had rallied around their leaders in the wake of Soleimani's killing. The general was seen as a national icon, and hundreds of thousands of Iranians had turned out for funeral processions across the country.
But the majority of the plane crash victims were Iranians or Iranian-Canadians, and the crash came just weeks after authorities quashed nationwide protests ignited by a hike in gasoline prices.
Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani blamed the tragedy on “threats and bullying” by the United States after the killing of Soleimani. He expressed condolences to families of the victims, and he called for a “full investigation” and the prosecution of those responsible.
"A sad day," Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif tweeted. “Human error at time of crisis caused by US adventurism led to disaster. Our profound regrets, apologies and condolences to our people, to the families of all victims, and to other affected nations.”
The jetliner, a Boeing 737 operated by Ukrainian International Airlines, went down on the outskirts of Tehran shortly after taking off from Imam Khomeini International Airport.
Iran had denied for several days that a missile caused the crash. But then the U.S. and Canada, citing intelligence, said they believed Iran shot down the aircraft with a surface-to-air missile, a conclusion supported by videos of the incident.
The plane, en route to the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, was carrying 167 passengers and nine crew members from several countries, including 82 Iranians, 57 Canadians and 11 Ukrainians, according to officials. The Canadian government had earlier lowered the nation's death toll from 63.
“This is the right step for the Iranian government to admit responsibility, and it gives people a step toward closure with this admission," said Payman Parseyan, a prominent Iranian-Canadian in western Canada who lost a number of friends in the crash.
“I think the investigation would have disclosed it whether they admitted it or not. This will give them an opportunity to save face.”
NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran announced Saturday that its military “unintentionally” shot down the Ukrainian jetliner that crashed earlier this week, killing all 176 aboard, after the government had repeatedly denied Western accusations that it was responsible.
The plane was shot down early Wednesday, hours after Iran launched a ballistic missile attack on two military bases housing U.S. troops in Iraq in retaliation for the killing of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani in an American airstrike in Baghdad. No one was wounded in the attack on the bases.
A military statement carried by state media said the plane was mistaken for a “hostile target” after it turned toward a “sensitive military center” of the Revolutionary Guard. The military was at its “highest level of readiness," it said, amid the heightened tensions with the United States.
“In such a condition, because of human error and in a unintentional way, the flight was hit,” the military said. It apologized and said it would upgrade its systems to prevent future tragedies.
It also said those responsible for the strike on the plane would be prosecuted.
Iran's acknowledgement of responsibility for the crash was likely to inflame public sentiment against authorities after Iranians had rallied around their leaders in the wake of Soleimani's killing. The general was seen as a national icon, and hundreds of thousands of Iranians had turned out for funeral processions across the country.
But the majority of the plane crash victims were Iranians or Iranian-Canadians, and the crash came just weeks after authorities quashed nationwide protests ignited by a hike in gasoline prices.
Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani blamed the tragedy on “threats and bullying” by the United States after the killing of Soleimani. He expressed condolences to families of the victims, and he called for a “full investigation” and the prosecution of those responsible.
"A sad day," Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif tweeted. “Human error at time of crisis caused by US adventurism led to disaster. Our profound regrets, apologies and condolences to our people, to the families of all victims, and to other affected nations.”
The jetliner, a Boeing 737 operated by Ukrainian International Airlines, went down on the outskirts of Tehran shortly after taking off from Imam Khomeini International Airport.
Iran had denied for several days that a missile caused the crash. But then the U.S. and Canada, citing intelligence, said they believed Iran shot down the aircraft with a surface-to-air missile, a conclusion supported by videos of the incident.
The plane, en route to the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv, was carrying 167 passengers and nine crew members from several countries, including 82 Iranians, 57 Canadians and 11 Ukrainians, according to officials. The Canadian government had earlier lowered the nation's death toll from 63.
“This is the right step for the Iranian government to admit responsibility, and it gives people a step toward closure with this admission," said Payman Parseyan, a prominent Iranian-Canadian in western Canada who lost a number of friends in the crash.
“I think the investigation would have disclosed it whether they admitted it or not. This will give them an opportunity to save face.”
Now its time for the yanks to shame the Iranians on the international stage. Isolate them economically n politically
Iran blames human error for 'unintentionally' shooting down Ukrainian plane
Updated about 3 hours ago
Iran's supreme leader has offered condolences and called for an investigation after his country's armed forces acknowledged that they accidentally shot down a Ukrainian passenger plane, killing all 176 aboard.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei — who until Saturday kept silent about the crash — has since said the information should be made public and called on the armed forces to "pursue probable shortcomings and guilt in the painful incident".
Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelenskiy has said the country expects a full investigation, a full admission of guilt and compensation after Iran announced its military "unintentionally" shot down the jetliner on Saturday.
"Iran has pleaded guilty to crashing the Ukrainian plane. But we insist on a full admission of guilt," Mr Zelenskiy said.
"We expect from Iran assurances of their readiness for a full and open investigation, bringing those responsible to justice, the return of the bodies of the dead, the payment of compensation, official apologies through diplomatic channels.
"Our profound regrets, apologies and condolences to our people, to the families of all victims, and to other affected nations."
Iran's president Hassan Rouhani tweeted the country "deeply regrets this disastrous mistake," promising that those behind the incident would be prosecuted.
Earlier on Saturday (AEDT), Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif tweeted that "human error" was to blame for the downing of the passenger jet, after initially denying Iran brought down the aircraft in the tense aftermath of missile strikes on US targets in Iraq.
A statement read on state television said the airliner had flown close to a sensitive military site and parties responsible for shooting down the jet would be held accountable.
The statement said the plane was mistaken for a "hostile target" after it turned toward a "sensitive military centre" of the Revolutionary Guard.
The military was at its "highest level of readiness," it said, amid the heightened tensions with the US.
"In such a condition, because of human error and in a unintentional way, the flight was hit," the statement said.
It apologised for the disaster and said it would upgrade its systems to prevent such "mistakes" in the future.
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Footage appears to show a mid-air explosion close to the flight's last transponder position.
ABC News
Iran had denied for several days that a missile downed the aircraft.
PHOTO Memorials for those killed in the plane crash have been held across Canada. AP: ROB GURDEBEKE/THE CANADIAN PRESS
But then the US and Canada, citing intelligence, said they believed Iran shot down the aircraft.
The plane, en route to the Ukrainian capital of Kiev, was carrying 167 passengers and nine crew members from several countries, including 82 Iranians, at least 57 Canadians and 11 Ukrainians, according to officials.
The Canadian Government earlier lowered the nation's death toll from 63.
"This is the right step for the Iranian Government to admit responsibility, and it gives people a step toward closure with this admission," said Payman Parseyan, a prominent Iranian-Canadian in western Canada who lost a number of friends in the crash.
"I think the investigation would have disclosed it whether they admitted it or not. This will give them an opportunity to save face."
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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he wanted the crash "thoroughly investigated".
ABC News
Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne offered her condolences to the victims and their families and said Iran's "acknowledgement and apology to all those affected was welcome".
Moving forward, she said it would be important that "a full and transparent investigation is undertaken, involving all nations who lost citizens in the tragedy".
"It is essential that all questions about how this tragedy happened are answered fully and that confidence is rebuilt in the safety of the international civilian air traffic network," she added.
Television reports on Friday indicated that debris had been cleared from the crash site, leaving the area to scavengers to pick over.
If the wreckage was indeed moved, some clues might have been lost unless the Iranians took careful steps to preserve evidence.
"Normally you would very carefully to map out a debris field," said Steve Wallace, former head of the accident-investigations office of the Federal Aviation Administration.
"If a missile struck the airplane, you would expect to find some pieces of it and residue of the explosive."
AP/Reuters
Iran blames human error for 'unintentionally' shooting down Ukrainian plane
Updated about 3 hours ago
Iran's supreme leader has offered condolences and called for an investigation after his country's armed forces acknowledged that they accidentally shot down a Ukrainian passenger plane, killing all 176 aboard.
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei — who until Saturday kept silent about the crash — has since said the information should be made public and called on the armed forces to "pursue probable shortcomings and guilt in the painful incident".
Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelenskiy has said the country expects a full investigation, a full admission of guilt and compensation after Iran announced its military "unintentionally" shot down the jetliner on Saturday.
"Iran has pleaded guilty to crashing the Ukrainian plane. But we insist on a full admission of guilt," Mr Zelenskiy said.
"We expect from Iran assurances of their readiness for a full and open investigation, bringing those responsible to justice, the return of the bodies of the dead, the payment of compensation, official apologies through diplomatic channels.
"Our profound regrets, apologies and condolences to our people, to the families of all victims, and to other affected nations."
Iran's president Hassan Rouhani tweeted the country "deeply regrets this disastrous mistake," promising that those behind the incident would be prosecuted.
Earlier on Saturday (AEDT), Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif tweeted that "human error" was to blame for the downing of the passenger jet, after initially denying Iran brought down the aircraft in the tense aftermath of missile strikes on US targets in Iraq.
A statement read on state television said the airliner had flown close to a sensitive military site and parties responsible for shooting down the jet would be held accountable.
The statement said the plane was mistaken for a "hostile target" after it turned toward a "sensitive military centre" of the Revolutionary Guard.
The military was at its "highest level of readiness," it said, amid the heightened tensions with the US.
"In such a condition, because of human error and in a unintentional way, the flight was hit," the statement said.
It apologised for the disaster and said it would upgrade its systems to prevent such "mistakes" in the future.
Space to play or pause, M to mute, left and right arrows to seek, up and down arrows for volume.
Video 0:19
Footage appears to show a mid-air explosion close to the flight's last transponder position.
ABC News
Iran had denied for several days that a missile downed the aircraft.
But then the US and Canada, citing intelligence, said they believed Iran shot down the aircraft.
The plane, en route to the Ukrainian capital of Kiev, was carrying 167 passengers and nine crew members from several countries, including 82 Iranians, at least 57 Canadians and 11 Ukrainians, according to officials.
The Canadian Government earlier lowered the nation's death toll from 63.
"This is the right step for the Iranian Government to admit responsibility, and it gives people a step toward closure with this admission," said Payman Parseyan, a prominent Iranian-Canadian in western Canada who lost a number of friends in the crash.
"I think the investigation would have disclosed it whether they admitted it or not. This will give them an opportunity to save face."
Space to play or pause, M to mute, left and right arrows to seek, up and down arrows for volume.
Video 0:41
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said he wanted the crash "thoroughly investigated".
ABC News
Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne offered her condolences to the victims and their families and said Iran's "acknowledgement and apology to all those affected was welcome".
Moving forward, she said it would be important that "a full and transparent investigation is undertaken, involving all nations who lost citizens in the tragedy".
"It is essential that all questions about how this tragedy happened are answered fully and that confidence is rebuilt in the safety of the international civilian air traffic network," she added.
Television reports on Friday indicated that debris had been cleared from the crash site, leaving the area to scavengers to pick over.
If the wreckage was indeed moved, some clues might have been lost unless the Iranians took careful steps to preserve evidence.
"Normally you would very carefully to map out a debris field," said Steve Wallace, former head of the accident-investigations office of the Federal Aviation Administration.
"If a missile struck the airplane, you would expect to find some pieces of it and residue of the explosive."
AP/Reuters
This is very very good turn of events for USA and allies.
Because the moral high ground has disappeared for Iran. No one will agree that mourning ONE single top Iranian Official is more significant than mourning 176 innocent lives.
Plus because it is Iran that basically killed these 176 people during their act of "retaliation" for the one life shows them to be extremely incompetent reckless and vengeful without just cause.
The killing of ?who has been forgotten. No more public marches and protests. Shameful.
And Iran's enemies now have the upper hand and moral high ground to impose sanctions to punish Iran.
Stupid country! They should just be summarily dealt with once and for all.
Fucking China.It seems like someone is trying to instigate war between the USA and Iran, as if to divert military attention from elsewhere.
June 2019:
"Beijing ready to join Tehran for steadfast comprehensive strategic partnership"
The new axis of stupid evil. CHINA NORTH KOREA IRAN.
I dont consider Russia in that group. Putin is too smart.
don't understand why some iranians living in angmoh cuntries who kpkb about the harsh shit laws, oops shiite laws and lack of freedom, need to return to iran to "visit relatives and friends" when they know their lives will constantly be in danger. one of my contractors is back in iran for 69 days to check out his home and is stuck until february. i'm not even sure if he will return next month as i just engage another contractor to check out one of my properties in sillycon valley to give me estimates on roofing, flooring and painting. he keeps complaining that the iranian gov wants to seize his home in tehran.
At least Iran has admitted responsibility and the relatives of those onboard will receive some sort of justice, financial compensation and apology.
The same cannot be said for the victims of MH17.
Five years on and the Russians continue to deny culpability. Putin's regime is truly despicable. What's even worse is that the international community turns a blind eye to all of this.
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