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Benign Dictatorship like Sinkieland? Hongkies say NO THANKS!

Asterix

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Assignment for next tutorial. Please read below and discuss ... ... ...

Why Hongkongers won’t settle for a Singapore-style boom

“Singaporeans live in far more spacious homes than we do… Their average salary is also catching up with ours, if not already higher.”

These are among the usual moans and groans in Hong Kong when it comes to comparisons with our main rival in Asia — Singapore.

Hongkongers indeed constantly hear the roar of the Lion City amid a longstanding battle of one-upmanship between the two regional financial and trading hubs.

The concerns have only grown of late, given the uncertain political climate in Hong Kong, but anyone looking at Singapore as a better place should ask himself this question: what does it take to live in Singapore, and is the price worth paying?

How would you feel if you were required to save more than a fourth of your monthly salary? What if the government borrows your savings to subsidize certain industries and sectors? And, what if the authorities want to import a million of non-local workers within the next decade?

It won’t be difficult to surmise that if such policies were to be implemented in Hong Kong, many locals will take to the streets to protest. But that’s exactly what Singapore has been doing and will continue to do so with its nanny-state policies.

Well-known economist Francis Lui Ting-ming, professor at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology, pointed out to the Hong Kong Economic Journal that Singapore’s combined private consumption expenditure amounted to 39.4 percent of the city-state’s gross domestic product in 2011 while the corresponding figure for Hong Kong was 65.15 percent.

On per capita basis, Hongkongers spent HK$174,000 (US$22,440) that year, more than 15 percent higher than Singaporeans (HK$152,000), according to Lui’s calculations.

Quite a big chunk of Singaporeans’ money goes to the Central Provident Fund, a compulsory comprehensive savings plan primarily to fund retirement, healthcare and housing needs.

In the 1980s an employer had to contribute one fourth of a worker’s monthly gross salary to the provident fund, with the employee contributing an equal amount.

Although the combined contribution rate has been lowered since then, Singapore’s gross national saving rate in 2011 still stood at 45.3 percent with an annual increment in national savings of around SG$145 billion (US$116 billion).

Lui notes that the authorities then leverage the huge capital pool though government bonds issued at extra low rates to cover costs of public housing projects as well as to subsidize selected industries such as the manufacturing sector.

The concentration of a large amount of capital in the tiny domestic market drags down investment return. But rather than leave the wealth in the hands of the people to boost consumer spending, the Singapore government injects money into wholly-owned investment firms like Temasek Holdings.


The state-owned firms then invest the money overseas – SG$71.7 billion in 2011, equivalent to more than a fifth of the city’s gross national income – in a bid to generate higher profits. In this sense, Singapore’s economic boom is built on continued government-led saving and investment.

While population and immigration policies are becoming a new source of grievance in Hong Kong, Singapore’s total population has swelled from less than 3.8 million in 1997 to 5.47 million in 2013.

According to official data, almost 30 percent, or 1.3 million people, are temporary, low-paid workers brought in mainly from India and Southeast Asian nations. The large army of cheap imported workers – who are not allowed to bring families and so make no demands for educational, welfare and social services – have greatly shored up investment return and quenched labor shortage in Singapore’s construction sector, where Hong Kong is facing a big problem right now.

But consciously or not, what we may tend to overlook is the fact that not everyone in Singapore is happy about their government’s policies.

A large protest attended by over 1,000 locals in February 2013 – unseen in decades in a country where political demonstrations are heavily suppressed – following Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s plan to boost the total population to 6.9 million by 2030 showed that people were resenting the additional inflow of immigrants.

And, in a place renowned for its safety and social order, a rare violent riot occurred in the Little India enclave that December involving over 300 Indian and Bangladeshi workers. The riot, which left dozens injured, was a telling indicator of how foreign workers – the backbone of Singapore’s economy – feel about their working and living conditions in the city-state.

Apart from the contrast in people’s political freedom and liberal rights, there is a divergence in governance between Hong Kong and Singapore.

Hong Kong is a shining paragon of a free market with faith in limited government interference while Singapore’s cornerstone is a paternalistic regime stressing government authority in national economic planning as well as people’s personal finances.

So, now we come to the following question:

Will Hongkongers, who had in the past amply demonstrated their view that the government must keep its nose out of personal affairs and private business, be ready to trade their autonomy and right of choice for the Singaporean-style prosperity?

The answer, most would agree, is not difficult to guess!

http://www.ejinsight.com/20150211-why-HK-people-wont-settle-for-a-Singapore-style-boom/
 

Asterix

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What HK emigrants like and dislike about Singapore

While the government is considering importing talent from abroad, an increasing number of young professionals are choosing to leave Hong Kong, and Singapore is one of their migration targets.

Hong Kong Economic Journal Monthly talked to some of them to learn about their motives and first-hand experiences with Singapore. What it found is quite different from the usual impressions Hongkongers have of the Lion City.

Cheung Chun-wah graduated from the department of systems engineering and engineering management at the Chinese University of Hong Kong.

He worked as an analyst in Singapore for about a year.

Although he is not happy about many things there, Cheung, 26, is still trying to get permanent residency in Singapore, a place he calls an “emergency exit”.

Cheung has a long list of complaints about the city state.

“I didn’t expect the cost of living in Singapore to be that high,” he said.

“The weather in Singapore is hot all year round. You may have a larger living space than in Hong Kong, but the electricity tariff is much higher. You couldn’t imagine how much one needs to pay to keep the air-con running all the time in a 1,000 square foot apartment.”

Not just electricity is costly, Cheung said. It is expensive to dine out, it’s expensive to drive, to drink and to smoke.

“I lived in Britain for a year, but I think the cost of living in Singapore is even higher than in London,” he said.

Salary levels are in some cases even lower than in Hong Kong.

“Take the banking industry as an example,” Cheung said. “The pay of vice-presidents is 20-30 percent less in Singapore.”

Singapore has little by way of entertainment, he complained.

Television programs are comparable with production by China Central Television, Cheung said.

The government is authoritarian, and the press practices self-censorship, he said. People can protest only in a small zone in Hong Lim Park, where foreigners are not welcome.

Cheung said he had to go to Malaysia to watch the uncut version of Ip Man, a martial arts movie produced in Hong Kong.


So why plan to stay in Singapore nonetheless?

Cheung is pessimistic about Hong Kong’s future and his career prospects in his hometown.

In the financial industry, “the future belongs to either Singapore or Shanghai”, he said.

The Lion City is the main wealth management center in Southeast Asia, managing funds primarily from Malaysia and Indonesia.

Hong Kong is still the financial center for North Asia, but if the Chinese government allows the renminbi to float freely and relax rules on foreign currency trading, “Hong Kong will totally lose its edge”, Cheung said.

The Singapore government has offered tax benefits to attract multinational firms to set up their Asian headquarters in the city. Their offices in Hong Kong will then be reduced to local units offering limited opportunities, he said.

But Cheung is pessimistic about his application for permanent residency in Singapore, as the city will hold general elections soon.

The government will hold back on the granting of permanent resident visas during the run-up to the elections, he said, as anti-foreigner sentiment has been growing in the past few years.

Keung Cheng-dong is a professor who has worked in Singapore for 10 years.

To him, the answer to whether Singapore is a better alternative will depend on the individual’s priorities.

“Hong Kong has no democracy, but Singapore offers very little freedom,” he said.

“Each country has its own problems.”

Many Hongkongers working in Singapore regard the city state as just another job market in which to try their luck, especially when relevant vacancies in Hong Kong are sparse, Keung said.

Keung submitted job applications to employers in Hong Kong and Singapore.

He chose Singapore simply because he got the offer from there first.

“The labor market is now very international,” he said.

http://www.ejinsight.com/20150303-what-hk-emigrants-like-dislike-about-singapore/
 

mojito

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Will Keung trade the freedom and autonomy he enjoyed in HK for Singapore styled prosperity? The answer was a resounding yes!
 

Asterix

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Ooi you don't know how to read izzit? Keung like other Hongkies simply regarded Sinkieland as another job market and chose Singapore simply because he got the offer from there first. PR is just an insurance policy. As a Sinkie shitizen, I already have my insurance policy.

Citizenship is another matter altogether. Keung, Cheung and Leung will not be so dumb as to relinquish their Canadian, British or even Chinese citizenship to have the "privilege" of their See Pee Elf locked up forever in addition to losing basic freedoms.

:oIo: :kma:
 

syed putra

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Some hongkies are buying apartment in kL by the blocks. And the development has not even started yet.
 

JohnTan

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Honkies have no voting rights. They will accept whatever Peking dishes out to them. A honkie is a slave through and through regardless of what they protest. At least a sinkie can vote. But of course, responsible sinkies vote for PAP.
 

JohnTan

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Hongkies have brains.

Irrelevant. Honkies are slaves. 奴 才。 They have no voting rights, and Peking is determined to show them their so-called 'voting rights' is nothing but a farce. The Honkies will be ruled by whomever Peking deems suitable.
 

theblackhole

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singapore is still the best place to live, to work and to settle down

we have the best governance in the world
 

Asterix

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新加坡模式獨一無二抄不來

2015年03月19日 02:58 (政治)

......為什麼很多方面皆表現出專制統治手腕的李光耀不被唾棄,反而得到相當大程度的正面評價?原因可以歸納為六個字,李光耀是一位「成功的獨裁者」,他一方面利用嚴刑峻法打壓異見人士,最常見的藉口離不開「維護國家安全」,跟其他獨裁者沒有什麼分別;但另一方面又透過高效率的政策把新加坡發展為生機蓬勃的經濟體,而且過程之中基本上沒有太多的貪污腐敗,這跟中國「繁榮娼盛」的致富之路截然不同。簡單來說,李光耀及其家族是「擁有絕對權力卻暫時沒有造成絕對腐敗」的特殊案例。在經濟建設以及廉潔奉公的層面,李光耀是成功的,所以其獨裁專制往往被形容為「瑕不掩瑜」。

長久以來一直有很多人將香港跟新加坡作比較,視兩者為競爭對手,「雙城記」之說大有市場。可是歸根究柢,新加坡模式獨一無二,香港要抄也抄不來,假如香港的行政長官像李光耀那樣,毫不掩飾自己是十六世紀意大利政治思想家馬基雅弗利(Niccolo Machiavelli)的忠實擁躉,坦言從不理會民調結果和民意喜惡,在受人愛戴和令人畏懼之間,毫不猶疑選擇令人畏懼,這樣獨斷獨行的行政長官恐怕會惹來幾十萬人的抗議怒吼,推出的任何政策皆被阻撓至極低效率。

既是抄不來,亦是不宜抄。李光耀健康欠佳淡出政壇之後,陸續已有質疑聲音提出,建立於威權體制的新加坡如何適應未來的民主化趨勢?昔日備受迫害的異見人士近年來再度活躍,發表意見否定執政人民行動黨的管治手法,甚至有人估計,將有更多人站出來反對李顯龍政府,畢竟這是一個「弱勢的強勢政府」。經濟上的成功,隨着李光耀時代告終,不能確保新加坡無風無浪長治久安。

李光耀之妙,還妙在一邊反共(建國前後皆積極鏟除當時的馬來亞共產黨),一邊又與中共建立良好關係,並且面面俱圓遊走於海峽兩岸之間,一九九三年促成「汪辜會談」在新加坡舉行。如此妙用無窮的政治手腕,不復見之於李顯龍。

強人已矣,新加坡現有政權尚且無法複製上一代的模式,香港這個所謂的競爭對手,實在沒必要枉費心機東施效顰。


http://forum.hkej.com/node/121417
 
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laksaboy

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A benign dictatorship is an oxymoron, just like 'chaste prostitute' or 'military intelligence'.

The economy or 'stability' is not a valid reason to excuse the oppression. You cannot sweep it under a carpet and call it 'benign'.
 

JohnTan

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A benign dictatorship is an oxymoron, just like 'chaste prostitute' or 'military intelligence'.

The economy or 'stability' is not a valid reason to excuse the oppression. You cannot sweep it under a carpet and call it 'benign'.

HK has, and always will, live under dictatorship. They do not vote in their leaders, especially the leaders that make all the key decisions. Honkies are ruled from London, and now from Peking. Honkies will accept whatever is dished out to them, regardless of how ferocious their protests are.
 

frenchbriefs

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Why is it hong kies get to read these articles,where they openly talk about the real truth behind CPF and temasek holdings and real purchasing power and annual disposable income expenditure and we don't?sinkies seem perfectly happy listening to the bullshit fed to them by PAP
 

frenchbriefs

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Come on guys,can't u smell the bullshit?we have a GDP of nearly $70,000 yet there's hundreds of thousands of sinkies taking home less than $12,000 a year.that's less than 1/6th of the GDP.in ang moh country the minimum wage is set at least 30% to 50% of their nation's GDP.why do sinkies allow this to happen?we may have the highest tests scores in the world but when it comes to having a clue about wages and basic economics.
 
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