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Behold all the pro-PAP letters to LKY and GCT

steffychun

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Be warned--lots of pro PAP bullshit here. shield your eyes if you just can't stand it or write back to the following people:

Hallmark of nation's political culture

I READ with great regret that both Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong have announced their desire to retire from the Cabinet ('Lee Kuan Yew steps down'; yesterday).

Their joint response to the outcome of GE 2011 shows that they continue to put Singapore's interests above their own and are prepared to step down to make way for changes that are required in the new political landscape.

This is the hallmark of Singapore's political culture that has served us well and a virtue that the opposition should seek to emulate.

GE 2011 will go down in history as one that is truly a 'watershed' in many ways and we can expect to see more sweeping changes in the weeks ahead.

However, it is important to remember that the majority of Singaporeans - 60.1 per cent - did vote for the PAP, and we should never be left with this niggling feeling that it is the 39.9 per cent who voted for the opposition that truly won the General Election.

Thank you MM Lee and SM Goh for your contributions to Singapore.

Ang Kok Thiam

Right move but statesmen's good work must continue

THE decision by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong to step down from the Cabinet is indeed a landmark in our political landscape, given the constancy of their presence in our Government over the past decades.

To put their decision in perspective, they still remain MPs and members of the powerful Central Executive Committee of the People's Action Party. MM Lee is still chairman of the Government of Singapore Investment Corporation and both may be holding a host of other posts as well. This means they will still continue to influence and contribute to the Government, although in a less direct manner as they would no longer be in the Cabinet.

How much change from the status quo their departure from the Cabinet will bring - given that their portfolios were not clearly defined - remains to be seen. Their good work in building bridges to the world at large as senior statesmen is very invaluable and should continue.

The two leaders' move can be interpreted as a good early sign that the People's Action Party leadership is indeed listening to voters, but more remains to be done before the PAP can emerge as the heart and soul of Singapore.

Dr Teoh Ren Shang


Dawn of new era

'It is a positive sign that a wind of change is starting to shape how Singapore will be governed in the future.'

MR TAN HO GIAN: 'I applaud the decision by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong to retire from the Cabinet. It is timely and the right thing to do. It is a positive sign that a wind of change is starting to shape how Singapore will be governed in the future. It is clear that the People's Action Party is now serious about forging a new consensus by listening to the citizens. The dawn of a new era is here in shaping the future of Singapore. The people have spoken and the Government has responded. Bravo!'

That needs courage

'Both have created history and will be remembered in history.'

DR JOHNSON LIM: 'Having understood the signs of the times, the two leaders had the courage and willingness to do the right thing by stepping down for the nation. Both have created history and will be remembered in history.'

Long overdue

'With their presence, it would have been difficult to break away from the old mindset.'

MR KELVIN QUEK: 'While the sudden announcement of the retirement of MM Lee and SM Goh from the Cabinet was unexpected, it was long overdue. It was odd for the PAP to be talking about bringing in the fourth generation of leaders when the first and second generations were still represented in the Cabinet. What Singapore had was a very odd system with not one but two former prime ministers watching over the current Prime Minister and his team. With their presence, it would have been difficult to break away from the old mindset and to boldly redefine our national agenda. Former PMs can still serve our nation in other roles, such as special envoy, without being present in the Cabinet.'

Hearing youth fine but...

'Dispensing with the wisdom and experience of the two leaders will be dangerous.'

MR KONG SIONG KWONG: 'Not heeding the voice and sentiments of younger citizens is folly, but dispensing with the wisdom and experience of the two leaders will be dangerous. The decision is regrettable. The two are outstanding statesmen whose influence extends beyond Singapore. Let us, with one united voice, tell them that we selfishly want them back.'

Great leadership

'A big thank you from the bottom of my heart.'

MR JEFFREY TAN: 'To MM Lee and SM Goh, a big thank you from the bottom of my heart as my family and Singaporeans have been the beneficiaries of their great leadership. I wish both of them and their loved ones good health and happiness.

Biggest tectonic shift in politics

I AM saddened by the announcement that Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong would be retiring from the Cabinet, which adds to the painful loss of Foreign Minister George Yeo.

MM and SM are irreplaceable in Singapore's Government. Their presence gives foreign investors confidence in Singapore, which is a key factor for the nation's economic success.

MM Lee is the "mascot" of Singapore that no one can ever replace. His international standing is enormous; he is a world statesman respected by leaders of the great powers of the world.

SM Goh was the key driving force behind the opening up the post-1990 government to engage citizens in a more consultative style. The many policies he put in place during his 14 years as prime minister brought stability and progress to Singapore.

Mr George Yeo, who is intelligent, hardworking and humble, has had enormous international exposure with a track record of being one of the most competent and versatile ministers. The good relationships he has built over the years with foreign ministers in other countries is invaluable to Singapore.

Their leaving the Cabinet at the same time is the biggest tectonic shift in Singapore's political landscape since independence.

Despite the heavy loss of nearly a century of political experience, MM and SM's decision to resign from Cabinet is an act of great personal humility and courage.

It is also a stamp of confidence for the younger generation of leaders led by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. It gives them an opportunity to forge a new social compact and consensus with younger Singaporeans.

Tay Xiong Sheng

Towards a new future

THE sudden decision by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong to allow Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong to be his own man in running the country has taken the nation by surprise.

All can now wake up to a new dawn with, perhaps, a dash of nostalgia, even sadness.

As these two giants start to fade from the political scene, Singaporeans should be mindful of the huge contributions by both men, especially MM Lee, who, together with his magnificent old party stalwarts, laid the foundation of modern Singapore.

SM Goh built upon that solid base and continued to transform Singapore into a highly respectable economic powerhouse that it is today. To both, all Singaporeans owe an incalculable debt.

Although the fruits of their labour have been enjoyed by all, their reigns were not without occasional hiccups. The lapses were probably inevitable, especially in the light of the circumstances of the time and the rapidity with which progress was made.

But that's the past. PM Lee is now poised to take Singapore into the future with renewed vigour and confidence, unrestrained by the well-intentioned overtones of the past.

Perhaps Singaporeans can now look forward to a closer, warmer and more sanguine relationship between them and the Government.

The recent watershed election has changed the political and parliamentary landscape, perhaps forever. All Singaporeans, regardless of their political persuasion, must now stand solidly behind PM Lee to lend support to a vision shared by all - a prosperous and vibrant Singapore where, indeed, no one is left behind.

Lee Seck Kay
 

QXD

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Dunno how many of their doggies will jump MRT because of the news
 

streetsmart73

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hi there


1. aiyoh!
2. some ball-less boot lickers sucking up
3. shall we shed some crocodile tears for the demise of the two quitters or what?
 

cooleo

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>>However, it is important to remember that the majority of Singaporeans - 60.1 per cent - did vote for the PAP, and we should never be left with this niggling feeling that it is the 39.9 per cent who voted for the opposition that truly won the General Election.<<

This is the kind of dickhead who will console himself when he register for ITE class. Hey mum, 60 marks out of 100 ain't too bad!
 

po2wq

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iz oredi happened ... letz mov on ... :rolleyes:

it cud have been worse! ... imajin if ah loon, ah hean, ah seng, ah hen ... alll oso resign! ... :rolleyes:
 

jbsmith

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Who is this Ang Kok Thiam?

He wrote quite alot in ST Forum.

The Straits Times
www.straitstimes.com
Published on Apr 13, 2011

Paradox of PAP's effectiveness


ANY ruling party that seeks to win votes and be re-elected has to make a clear distinction between the people who voted and supported the party, and the people who did not ("An evening of pointed questions and candid responses"; last Wednesday).

The same goes for who gets benefits like HDB upgrading first and who must wait (and it is not a situation of who does not get them).

If the people who voted and supported the ruling party are not accorded a higher priority, then it is an injustice to those who voted for the ruling party.

Singapore's ruling party, when compared with other ruling parties in the world, has done a poor job at making this distinction between the people who voted for it and those who did not. But it is for this very reason that it has been able to command the respect of all electorates.

The current status quo may not be the most ideal for those who want to see more opposition members elected into Parliament. Between those who vote for the ruling party and those who do not, the disagreement is over the pace at which everyone is comfortable with opposition members being elected into Parliament.

One key point that non-People's Action Party supporters need to see is - and I share a netizen's view - there is a difference between "doing the right thing slowly and doing the wrong thing quickly".

Between having an efficient and effective government and a flourishing democracy, something has to give. Can we not agree to change at a pace that is neither disruptive nor destructive?

Ang Kok Thiam

The Straits Times
www.straitstimes.com
Published on Apr 23, 2011

Housing queries WP should have asked


WORKERS' Party secretary-general Low Thia Khiang accused National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan of trying to distract voters from the issue of flat prices ('WP 'not looking to raid reserves''; yesterday).

To begin with, the opposition has been, intentionally or not, asking the wrong questions when seeking to check the problem of rising home prices in Singapore.

Hence, the solutions that the opposition has proposed, while sexy and appealing, come across as simplistic and ill-considered.

While WP's answers may appeal to aspiring home owners, it is to the detriment of those who currently own HDB flats and/or private properties.

The questions which should be asked of Mr Mah are:

How do we keep new HDB flat prices affordable, without impacting prices of resale HDB flats and private property prices?

Are the measures implemented by the Government balanced thus far, taking into consideration the interests of existing and aspiring home owners? Have these measures been effective?

After the General Election on May7, what more can the Government do to help aspiring home owners come up with the initial down payment to buy their first HDB flat?

Can this be done responsibly without going against the principle of self-reliance?

Is it possible to do what the opposition is proposing, without crashing the property market?

The problem of rising home prices was neither brought about by Mr Mah nor is it the fault of the ruling party.

It is a complex problem that is mainly driven by a booming open economy and prospering middle class.

Mr Mah has the thankless task of managing this problem.

Rising home prices is not idiosyncratic to Singapore and is also a pressing challenge in prosperous economies like Hong Kong and China.

Have any of these places implemented what the opposition has proposed?

Ang Kok Thiam

The Straits Times
www.straitstimes.com
Published on May 14, 2011

No frets, large regrets


BOTH Mr George Yeo and Mrs Lim Hwee Hua have decided to quit politics ("George Yeo pledges to help transform PAP", Wednesday; and "Lim Hwee Hua says: No more elections for me"; Thursday).

We have taken many of the current and past political office-holders for granted. We should not assume that many of them will come forward just for the financial rewards but to serve a more noble purpose.

Those who continue to serve today, serve out of a sense of duty and responsibility to Singapore and its people.

Watching this GE unfold and the aftermath, it is not difficult to understand why it is very hurtful for political office-holders, who sincerely believed that they had done their very best for the people, to continue to be at the receiving end of relentless verbal and written abuse online, at rallies and in written publications.

We learn to value what we had only when it is lost. The people of Aljunied GRC have lost Mr Yeo and Mrs Lim as their MPs forever.

Ang Kok Thiam
 

IR123

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With people like Ang Kok Thiam around, the PAP is assured of losing a few more seats.

Not an issue.
 

patrickv

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all these pap suckcock dogs better save their porlumpar letters in words format. in that case they can recycled and modify their letters a bit and reuse it when lky/woody mati :oIo::oIo:
 

KuanTi01

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These people so openly praising the PAP leaders to the skies are probably PAP members or lovers; so their letters should be read with caution! Likewise, letters from those opposing lky & gct should also be treated with circumspection but then such letters don't even get published or if they get a little mention, they'll be heavily edited.
 

glockman

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Major barf

vomit-Spruce-1351.jpeg
 

moolightaffairs

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even chinese news papers also a lot!!! now got a lot of people write in to scold wp and claim they are from aljunied!!! even tell LTK dont "frame" them as the singaporean who make history to be the first GRC to vote oppositions in!!! :eek: they rather want GY!!! wah!!! really knn!!! more people vote for WP, but when u read the newspaper forum. only pro pap voice are air! knn!!! :oIo: lhl want us to heal the crack and move on, with this type of mother fucker pap supporters how to do that??? :oIo:
 

steffychun

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even chinese news papers also a lot!!! now got a lot of people write in to scold wp and claim they are from aljunied!!! even tell LTK dont "frame" them as the singaporean who make history to be the first GRC to vote oppositions in!!! :eek: they rather want GY!!! wah!!! really knn!!! more people vote for WP, but when u read the newspaper forum. only pro pap voice are air! knn!!! :oIo: lhl want us to heal the crack and move on, with this type of mother fucker pap supporters how to do that??? :oIo:

Low TK is facing the Empire Strikes Back.
 

moolightaffairs

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Low TK is facing the Empire Strikes Back.

got another guy even doubt about LTK team can do anything in aljunied. he ask, those opposition voted in with no track record. if oppositions cant produce result, is it going to ask more oppositions to be voted in so that they can produce result??? :oIo: i cried when i read all these. is this our sin ka po lan????? why their brain all stuck with shit??? they are really no back bones and por lum par till like that!!! wah!!! really heart pain man!!!! really like last time when japan invade china and some chinese still say japan good because they want to unite asia and stand against angmo!!!

i think this is what the pap scholars brainstorm to discredit the oppositions right after the elections. pap starts their campaign early??? ready for 2016 election??? i think this will piss even more people off to vote for the oppositions. our media really cannot make it and this will cause pap down fall because they only hear the good things than resentment from the ground.
 

HulkSmash

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even chinese news papers also a lot!!! now got a lot of people write in to scold wp and claim they are from aljunied!!! even tell LTK dont "frame" them as the singaporean who make history to be the first GRC to vote oppositions in!!! :eek: they rather want GY!!! wah!!! really knn!!! more people vote for WP, but when u read the newspaper forum. only pro pap voice are air! knn!!! :oIo: lhl want us to heal the crack and move on, with this type of mother fucker pap supporters how to do that??? :oIo:

Shitty Times, Lianhe Zaobao, Wanbao & Shing Ming are all pro PAP voices. What u expect? KNNCCB!
 
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