Austria keep NS

[singveld]

Their NS only 6 months, not the shit pinkie gave sinkies, one hand they put sinkies to NS slavery, another hand they let in FT for jobs. What a shit deal for sinkies men. amen.
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Austrians have voted by a wide margin to retain compulsory military service, preliminary results from a nationwide referendum suggest.

Some 60% voted to keep the draft with 40% in favour of setting up a purely professional army, in early results.

The issue has divided politicians in the coalition government, and voters.

Supporters of change said a professional army would be more effective - critics said it would put Austria's cherished neutrality at risk.

Austrian men must serve six months in the army or nine months in civilian service when they reach 18.

Increasingly few European countries demand compulsory military service. France abandoned conscription in 1996, and Germany in 2011.

Calls for an end to conscription are growing in Austria's neighbour, Switzerland, which is also neutral.

The centre-left Social Democrats say the current make-up of the armed forces does not work for the 21st Century, arguing that a professional army is needed to work more effectively with other European armies.

Defence Minister Norbert Darabos called the current force outdated in an era of "counter-terrorism, cybercrime... [and] failed states".

But the conservative People's Party argued against change. Interior Minister Johanna Mikl-Leitner said the current system "fits Austria like a glove and is the best guarantee for all future challenges".

Opponents feared the move will not only prove more costly, at a time when Austria is trying to cut spending, but would also push the country towards membership of Nato and the abandonment of neutrality they have observed since 1955.

Army Chief of Staff Gen Edmund Entacher also warned that changes to the current set-up would lead "irreversibly to a drop in quality, numbers and ability".


Mandatory conscription in Europe

Nato members:

Denmark
Estonia
Greece
Norway
Turkey
Non-Nato members:

Belarus
Cyprus
Finland
Moldova
Russia
Switzerland
Ukraine
Those who do not want to serve must spend nine months working in community jobs, such as ambulance drivers and in senior citizens' homes.

 

[laksaboy]

The main purpose of NS is that it keeps the economy going. Contractors, SFI, ST Logistics, weapons makers etc. Creates lots of jobs.

They cannot abolish NS without negative repercussions to the economy.

Everything else about NS is secondary. National defence, foolish sentiments about patriotism etc.

NS is big business.

 

[steffychun]

Austria guns are better than the SAR-21

 

[andyfisher]

Austria army train to fight, our train to take cover and shoot arrow.
U think which one actual army?

Anyway the urine saf also racist. who want to fight for them.

Section take cover :oIo:

 

[biondi]

Imagine the windfall profits that SFI earns from NS everyday.

 

[TuaGow]

sinkiepore should cut ns to 6 months like austria, no point wasting so much time in ns.

 

[Kinana]

sinkiepore should cut ns to 6 months like austria, no point wasting so much time in ns.

6 month NS is for show only, cannot fight.

 

[singveld]

6 month NS is for show only, cannot fight.

only PAP said that, that is not true, no amount of training can get ready civilian to combat ready, not 6 months, not 2 years.
The only way is to send them to war, those who come back alive can fight, those that dun cannot fight, therefore if PAP is series about defending singapore, they should send the NS men to war zone like iraq, afghanistan and syria.

for wayang, 6 months intensive is as good as 2 years.

 

[Sideswipe]

think many countries still have 1 to 2 years NS. but how many countries have the long Reservist cycle like Singapore ? South Korea and Taiwan Reservists: go back one or two days for a couple of years. that is it.

 

[TuaGow]

6 month NS is for show only, cannot fight.

sinkiepore 2year ns can fight? also for show only! but more expensive and time-wasting show.

 

[BuiKia]

Keypoint...6-9 months only.

Not only army and can serve in other areas.

Austrian men must serve six months in the army or nine months in civilian service when they reach 18.

 

[Kinana]

only PAP said that, that is not true, no amount of training can get ready civilian to combat ready, not 6 months, not 2 years.
The only way is to send them to war, those who come back alive can fight, those that dun cannot fight, therefore if PAP is series about defending singapore, they should send the NS men to war zone like iraq, afghanistan and syria.

for wayang, 6 months intensive is as good as 2 years.

You think they train intensive in Austria? You gotta be kiddin.

 

[Kinana]

sinkiepore 2year ns can fight? also for show only! but more expensive and time-wasting show.

Yes, we can. Its definitely much better than 6 months.