Armored Vehicle Built By ST Kinetics

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ST Kinetics has been collaborating with some other firms to design and build armored vehicles.
They even blow their own trumpet on one of the SAF advertising commercials.

Anyone here every been in the infantry, artillery, combat engineer or armored trooper during your NS or ICT time?
Can this "tax payers $$$ waster" GLC really design and build solid armored vehicles for war?
 
ST kinetics collaborative effort with Wayne industries:

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ST Kinetics has been collaborating with some other firms to design and build armored vehicles.
They even blow their own trumpet on one of the SAF advertising commercials.

Anyone here every been in the infantry, artillery, combat engineer or armored trooper during your NS or ICT time?
Can this "tax payers $$$ waster" GLC really design and build solid armored vehicles for war?

Lord shiva last heard these siak sway fuckers from the Chartered industries had some demo where the fucking vehcile failed on the show hahahahaha


fucking clowns....

useless bastard saf will rpobably crumble faster than the british army if anyone came attacking ./... got fucked up clowns like kee chiu and bukit brown as generals sure mampos.....
 
ST kinetics collaborative effort with GI Joe: :D:D

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So when TJS and SDP takes over who will they sell these vehicles to? They hate the defence budget so how will the sell these?
 
Source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ST_Kinetics


1997–present: Reinvention

In 1997, ST Auto, together with Singapore Technologies Aerospace Ltd (ST Aerospace), Singapore Technologies Electronics Ltd (ST Electronics), and Singapore Technologies Marine Ltd (ST Marine), were merged to form the present ST Engineering.[7] In October 1999, ST Engineering acquired CIS at S$78 M.[8] ST Auto and CIS were merged in Feb 2000 to form ST Kinetics.[9] The following year, ST Kinetics reorganised itself into 3 divisions, namely Automotive; Munitions and Weapons; and Services, Trading and Others.[10] A series of flagship products were developed by the early 21st century, including the SAR21 assault rifle, the Primus 155mm self-propelled artillery gun, the Pegasus 155 mm lightweight howitzer, the Bronco All-Terrain Tracked Carrier and the Terrex 8x8 Armoured Personnel Carrier. ST Kinetics went on to invest in several companies overseas to enhance its engineering capabilities. An example was the acquisition of Silvatech Industries Inc in July 2006, a Canadian company specialising in forestry equipment, and renaming it as Kinetics Drive Solutions (KDS) in August 2006[11] to focus on the Infinitely Variable Transmissions (IVT) that Silvatech had developed for its forestry equipment.

2003 was the year ST Kinetics decided to venture into the new commercial vehicles business to leverage on the engineering and fabrication capabilities it has acquired through the military vehicle projects. That year, ST Kinetics went into an equal-share joint venture with Beijing Heavy Duty Truck Plant (BHDTP) to form the Beijing Zhonghuan Kinetics Heavy Vehicles Co. Ltd (BZK).[12] In 2005, ST Kinetics acquired Specialized Vehicles Corporation in U.S. along with its Hackney and Kidron brands, 2 market leaders in the U.S. beverage truck bodies business.[13] In the same year, ST Kinetics signed a 60–40 joint venture with Guiyang City Industrial Investment Holding Corporation (GIIHC) to form Guizhou Jonyang Kinetics Co., Ltd. (GJK) that manufactures excavators,[13] and set up STAR Guangzhou and STAR Hangzhou. In June 2006, ST Kinetics wholly acquired Leeboy through ST Engineering's U.S. subsidiary, VT Systems. Leeboy is a U.S. industry leader in commercial class asphalt pavers.[14] In 2012, ST Kinetics reorganised itself into 2 business groups. The Defence Business Group handles all military business and the Commercial Business Group manages the commercial businesses.[15]

ST Kinetics is one of 6 companies that were blacklisted by India's Ministry of Defence for 10 years on March 5, 2012.[16][17] The company was issued a show cause notice before it was blacklisted.[18]On 25th May 2012, ST Kinetics filed a writ petition in the High Court of Delhi against the Indian Ministry of Defence (MoD) and the Indian Ordnance Factory Board (OFB), challenging the debarment order.[19] [19]



Look like this GLC really wasted tons of tax payer's $$$ by investing in so many "Ah Tiong's firm" and acquiring several overseas firm.
No wonder, we got so many PRC working is DSTA and also scholarship given free to them.
 
buying military hardware from a country that's never fought a single war..............some more from a country full of bookworms..........
 
Wah Piang! Cannot make it in the defence trade, start making coca cola trucks...
 
If most of the components like engine, transmission, suspension, even the wheels etc need to be imported, should we even see this piece of crap as locally made?
 
If most of the components like engine, transmission, suspension, even the wheels etc need to be imported, should we even see this piece of crap as locally made?

Everything imported still can screw up...
 
ST Kinetics has been collaborating with some other firms to design and build armored vehicles.
They even blow their own trumpet on one of the SAF advertising commercials.

Anyone here every been in the infantry, artillery, combat engineer or armored trooper during your NS or ICT time?
Can this "tax payers $$$ waster" GLC really design and build solid armored vehicles for war?

The answer to your question is yes and no.

The SAF is a captive market for all of ST Kinetics products, good or bad. To be really cost effective, the SAF should just buy proven off the shelf products for their general needs. They have done this before for M113s, Centurions, etc. STK tries to be the designer and builder of products more "customized" to local needs. Also, due to the volume that the SAF orders, it was thought that they could justify setting up a production line for whatever the SAF needs. An example of this was the replacement vehicle for the M113, the Bionix. Because there are over 3000 variants of the M113 in service with the SAF, and the cost of buying off the shelf suitable product to replace such a large number was prohibitive, they thought it was justify to start the Bionix production line.

However, no weapons company can really do well just selling to the domestic market. This is where STK has failed abysmally. Other than the 100 Warthog/Bronco they sold to the UK, there has not been any notable overseas sale. They need the sales to defray the R & D for their products and to reduce the per unit cost for their own orders. In the UK case, they only got the order because they were the only ones able to gear up and supply on a short time line, as per the UK requirement. Even than, they practically gavethe Warthog away, selling them for only 1.5 million pounds each.

The reason for the lack of international sales is that as a country, we have no combat experience to draw on. Western countries with existing companies that have been making armoured vehicles for decades will be reluctant to buy from a company with such a limited operational record. We can sell to dictators, pariah countries, and those under arms embargo, but even these countries (like our good friends Myanmar) are buying their armored vehicles from Russia and China, as they are cheaper and more combat proven.

So, in the end, its a colossal waste of taxpayer's money. But the PAP knows all the weaknesses of the military complex that I have mentioned. They don't really expect to recoup all the taxpayers money back with large overseas orders. In the case of STK, the PAP uses all these GLCs to park their chiak liao bee retired army colonels and higher ranks. The military/industrial complex in Singapore employs so many useless people that to get rid of it and save taxpayer money will result in 1000s of idiots running around with no other employable skill. U can write a book on the waste and inefficiency going on in all areas of the singapore military and police forces, anyone that uses weapons. Real products that the SAF needs, they are stuck and still cannot produce it. eg. a light tank to replace the AMX-13 based on the Bionix chassis.
 
knew a guy from the navy, this was in the early 2000s, he told me, there is a big difference in quality between the singapore built corvettes and the western made ships. and I dont think he was complementing the singapore made ones.
 
And that's why they are better off building ice cream trucks and coca cola lorries :)
 
knew a guy from the navy, this was in the early 2000s, he told me, there is a big difference in quality between the singapore built corvettes and the western made ships. and I dont think he was complementing the singapore made ones.

All those copy cat ships made by ST Marine Engineering uses very thin and lousy material which cannot withstand much punishment during actual war.
They will be sunk easily by big naval guns. I wonder is it the same goes with our armored vehicles.
 
Why will smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY care ?
His blue eye toy boys have toys to play with.
$$$$ being burned up and therefore not available back to sinkies to use to fight him
Even more $$$$ still to suck and screw and fuck from sinkies.

Win win win for LKY and his maggots in white.
 
Stupid for manufacturer to build things that last... Every now and then must undergo servicing, charge buyers on maintenance, so can make big $$$!
 
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