Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictator

[Leongsam]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

Democracy is not suited to some cultures. The Muslims definitely fall into this category. The sinkie culture is at odds with democratic principles too.

Sinkies need a strong dictator to tell them what to do. Otherwise, the country will self destruct. We already see signs of this happening with arsehole bandit opposition members flexing their sphincter muscles.

 

[singveld]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

Democracy is not suited to some cultures. The Muslims definitely fall into this category. The sinkie culture is at odds with democratic principles too.

Sinkies need a strong dictator to tell them what to do. Otherwise, the country will self destruct. We already see signs of this happening with arsehole bandit opposition members flexing their sphincter muscles.

true, i agree with you 100%.

if strong dictator is so great, why your forum is beacon of a freedom and democracy? Where is the PAP in you?
your avatar is much better now.

 

[THE_CHANSTER]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

Tunisia, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Libya, Bahrain. The Arab Spring has been a disaster for most of these countries.
I also somewhat agree with Leongsam and singveld. Islamic culture is not compatible with democracy or at least the western interpretation of it.

 

[singveld]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

Tunisia, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Libya, Bahrain.
The Arab Spring has been a disaster for most of these countries..

Most of these countries not a disaster.
Nothing is further than the truth.

Syria is now virtually a hell hole. A civil war with no end in sight.

Libya opposition only won because of the air power of the west, now the whole country are ruled by armed thugs.

Bahrain opposition were defeated , killed and imprison.

Tunisia and Yemen are doing better, but the wheels are still turning.

Egypt well you know, economic collapse, and protests and revolution every year since 2011.

 

[singveld]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

Who are these people in USA making these decision, they should be fired. They keep funding, giving arms, training the terrorists in middle east. Even the richest and smartest country in the world, it is full of retards.

The CIA is trying to groom the Muslim Brotherhood, just like it groomed AlQaeda, then when the time to hang them, it will use them.

But for Egypt, the army is still very much Mubarak loyalies, but with a difference. They're wiser now to the USA's double crossing.

 

[singveld]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

America should stop encouraging people in middle east to be democracy like them.
Causing more troubles than good.

 

[Tuayapeh]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

Most of these countries not a disaster.
Nothing is further than the truth.

Syria is now virtually a hell hole. A civil war with no end in sight.

Libya opposition only won because of the air power of the west, now the whole country are ruled by armed thugs.

Bahrain opposition were defeated , killed and imprison.

Tunisia and Yemen are doing better, but the wheels are still turning.

Egypt well you know, economic collapse, and protests and revolution every year since 2011.

Thank you America for systematically fucking up the lives of millions....

I cannot imagine when they will return to fuck around in asia again like what they did in vietnam

 

[Satyr]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

we all know PAP is not perfect, but they are so much better the shit in Egypt.

Agreed. But if the they forget they are there to look after the interests of the people this is exactly what will happen. Nobody wants that.

 

[NeverSayDie]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato



Mursi Ousted as Egypt’s President; Constitution Suspended

By Tarek El-Tablawy & Mariam Fam - Jul 4, 2013 5:56 AM GMT+0800

Fireworks light the sky opponents of Egypt's Islamist President Mohammed Morsi celebrate in Tahrir Square in Cairo, Egypt, on July 3, 2013.

Defense Minister Abdelfatah al-Seesi announced in a televised broadcast this evening that the constitution will be suspended and an early presidential election held after Mursi failed to meet the demands of an ultimatum set just over 48 hours ago.

“The president’s speech last night failed to meet and conform with the demands” of the people, prompting the armed forces to consult “with some of the symbols of the national forces and the youths without excluding anyone,” the defense minister said. They agreed on a road map “that includes initial steps that realize the building of a strong and coherent Egyptian society.”

The news drew an explosion of cheering in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, where hundreds of thousands had massed for the past four days in a bid to push Mursi from office. Fireworks lit up the night sky above the square, the center of the movement that forced Hosni Mubarak from power in 2011, in a scene mirrored across town outside the presidential palace where Mursi had worked.

Six people were killed and 187 injured in clashes between supporters and opponents of Mursi after the army’s statement, the ambulance service said.

Mursi’s Rejection

Mursi, 61, “urges civilians and military members to uphold the law and the constitution not to accept that coup which turns Egypt backwards,” his office said in Twitter postings. “Armed Forces announcement is rejected by all free men who struggled for a civil democratic Egypt.”

“The military forced an elected leader out of power," Shadi Hamid, director of research at the Brookings Doha Center, said in a telephone interview. “If that’s not a coup, what is?”
A technocratic government will be formed, and the head of the Supreme Constitutional Court will be in charge of running the country’s affairs “during the transitional period and until a new president is elected,” al-Seesi said.

The interim job will go to Adly Mansour, who took up his job as the court’s chief justice on July 1. He was appointed to the court, which clashed repeatedly with Mursi over the past year, in 1992. Mansour, who was born in 1945, will be sworn in tomorrow morning as interim president, state media reported citing court spokesman Maher Sami.

Religious Backing

Seated behind al-Seesi for the television address were various political figures including Nobel laureate Mohamed ElBaradei, Coptic Pope Tawadros II and the head of Al-Azhar, the Sunni Muslim world’s pre-eminent religious institution. Their presence reflected widespread resentment toward Mursi and Muslim Brotherhood rule that critics say ran the nation into the ground,

Al-Seesi, in explaining the military’s move, laid out a litany of failures he ascribed to the presidency, most linked to its rejection of efforts to broker national consensus and reconciliation.

With Egypt’s growth already near the weakest in two decades, unemployment stands at a record 13.2 percent. Egypt’s benchmark bonds tumbled today, pushing the yield to a record, as stocks and forward contracts for the pound dropped before the military announcement and after Mursi rebuffed the army deadline.

Unemployment Pledge

Mursi took office promising to attract outside investment and reduce unemployment below 7 percent by 2016. International reserves have fallen to $16 billion. Tourism, the lifeblood of Egypt’s economy, is plunging.

The military has formed the backbone of Egypt’s political power since 1952, when a group of officers led by Gamal Abdel Nasser overthrew King Farouk, following widespread rioting against the monarchy, social inequality and the British presence in Egypt. Before its deadline elapsed today, the army deployed troops and tanks around Cairo before its deadline elapsed.

Before the army announcement, Mursi had signaled his renewed rejection of calls for his resignation, offering instead a “clear and safe road map that is based on constitutional legitimacy that Egyptians built together,” according to an e-mailed statement from his office. He suggested an interim coalition government, saying that “this is our way to go forward so that the Egyptians can have their say through the ballot box” in parliamentary elections.

Lost Legitimacy

For the secularists, youth activists and others who have massed against him and the Muslim Brotherhood, Mursi lost his legitimacy with repeated attempts to entrench the Islamists’ power at the expense of the nation’s need for an economic revival and social justice.

“The real danger here is if some Muslim Brotherhood members resort to violence, the army will use that as a pretext to use real repression and to crack down aggressively on the Brotherhood,” Hamid said. “The Brotherhood has to be very careful in this crucial window and not resort to violence.”

To contact the reporters on this story: Mariam Fam in Cairo at [email protected]; Tarek El-Tablawy in Cairo at [email protected]
To contact the editor responsible for this story: Andrew J. Barden at [email protected]

 

[singveld]

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Assad hails Morsi's downfall

Syria's embattled President, Bashar al-Assad, hailed Morsi's downfall as the "defeat of political Islam". Assad who is fighting a civil war against rebels backed by the Muslim Brotherhood said it took less than a year to uncover the deception of the movement in Egypt, Syria's state media reports.

 

[singveld]

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• Barack Obama has avoided describing events in Egypt as a coup - a move that would lead to the suspension of US aid, but he said that support would now be reviewed. In a statement he said:

The United States does not support particular individuals or political parties, but we are committed to the democratic process and respect for the rule of law. Since the current unrest in Egypt began, we have called on all parties to work together to address the legitimate grievances of the Egyptian people, in accordance with the democratic process, and without recourse to violence or the use of force.


• UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon said he was watching developments with concern. He called for "calm, non-violence, dialogue and restraint".

• William Hague called for restraint in Egypt and said the UK did not support military intervention. He said:

The chance of a democratic future was hard won for Egypt by the Egyptian people two and a half years ago. But looking forward, we call on all parties to show the leadership and vision needed to restore and renew Egypt's democratic transition.

 

[singveld]

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Adli Mansour, the top judge of Egypt's constitutional court, is to be sworn in as interim president after the Egyptian army deposed the Muslim Brotherhood's Mohamed Morsi. The army moved after four days of sustained giant street protests that eclipsed even the rallies that brought down Hosni Mubarak. Morsi became the second Egyptian leader to be kicked out of power in 28 months.

• General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi announced the change in government in a televised address joined by influential leaders of opposition parties and religious groups. Among those who spoke after Sisi were opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei, the sheikh of Al-Azhar mosque and the Coptic pope. Leaders of the Islamist Nour party also joined the announcement.

• Morsi is being held at the defence ministry, Brotherhood spokesman Gehad El-Haddad told Reuters. He said the president's aides were being held at the Republican Guard barracks where Morsi spent his final day in office defying calls for him to resign.

• US president Barack Obama has ordered a review of US aid to Egypt but refrained from describing the ousting as a coup d'état, UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon and EU foreign affairs and the EU's high representative for foreign affairs, Baroness Ashton, have voiced their concern at the situation but also refrained from describing the events as a coup.

• The death toll has risen to at least 14, after Morsi supporters and the military clashed in areas around the country. Two spokesmen for the Muslim Brotherhood described an attack on a rally in Cairo, which was later downplayed by reporters who visited the scene.

• A crackdown on media reporting has been criticised, after at least four television stations, who were covering the growing demonstrations of Muslim Brotherhood supporters were shut down, including an offshoot of al-Jazeera called al-Jazeera Misr, which was raided, and its journalists arrested.

• It has been reported that 300 arrest warrants have been issued for Muslim Brotherhood members.

 

[singveld]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

they swear in another FAT bastard as president.

no doubt be another failure.

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

Just the name itself Muslim Brotherhood should be enough to tell you that it's nothing good will come out of it.
Only the stupid Arabs voted them in, instead of boycotting the election in 2011, citing between the devil and the deep blue sea.

That is the obvious failure of any democratic electoral process. If all the candidates are shit, you'll be voting shit into parliament, no matter who you vote for. The right process is to count those who do not vote or did not vote as a vote of non-confidence of all the candidates and if the percentage rise to a stipulated figure, the election result should turn into a coalition with no clear winner. We can't have the result of Tony Tan Presidential election, winning 34% and yet become the President. What cock result is that, for example.

 

[singveld]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

actually it is the same as singapore
majority of egyptian hate muslim brotherhood
but they cannot agree to support which moderate candidate, the vote are divided.
while the well organised MB all support their candidate, win the election and most of the parliament.
and fxxk up the country, just like in singapore.

 

[steffychun]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

Democracy is not suited to some cultures. The Muslims definitely fall into this category. The sinkie culture is at odds with democratic principles too.

Sinkies need a strong dictator to tell them what to do. Otherwise, the country will self destruct. We already see signs of this happening with arsehole bandit opposition members flexing their sphincter muscles.

What about Indonesia

 

[singveld]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

What about Indonesia

tour of france, he is busy man now.

It does not matter what system muslim chooses, a failing religion bring failing states, failing society and failing family.
Give them the best political system in the world, they will still fail.

 

[singveld]

Re: Another protest, another revoluton in Egypt, they are better off with the dictato

the shit hole call egypt
both camp now throwing stone and pointing green laser at each other
while no police and army in sight


Al Jazeera is broadcasting live video from central Cairo as supporters and opponents of Mohamed Morsi clash on the 6 October bridge, close to Tahrir Square.

 

[singveld]

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Total mayhem here at Maspero. Thousands against thousands. Street battles. People injured lying on the ground

Pro- and Anti Morsi protestors now fighting Handed to handed, several have been beaten & taken by the other side. Chaotic scenes #egypt


Violence is intensifying in Cairo as thousands of supporters and opponents of Morsi clash on the 6 October bridge near Tahrir Square. Fireworks, molotov cocktails and birdshot were used in clashes between the groups. Even with the violence, there are no reports of army or police intervention.

• The supreme leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammed Badie, addressed a large crowd of pro-Morsi supporters in Cairo and said that military rule will never come back to Egypt. His appearance was a surprise because of earlier reports saying he had been arrested. He said those accusations are lies.

• At least 10 people have died in the clashes and 210 people have been injured, according to the Associated Press.

• More than 80 women were victims of sexual assault in the vicinity of Tahrir Square during Wednesday’s rallies. There have been at least 169 counts of sexual mob crime since protests against Morsi began on Sunday.

• Interim president Adli Mansour issued a decree to dissolve the upper house of Egypt’s parliament – the shura council. The 100-member panel is the only body in Egypt with legislative powers and the body drafted Egypt’s constitution in December 2012.

• Turkey’s prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan condemned the ousting of Morsi and called it a threat to democracy. "Those who rely on the guns in their hands, those who rely on the power of the media cannot build democracy,” Erdogan said. He also criticized the West for refusing to call the ousting a coup.

 

[singveld]

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