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Another NUS Prof whacks PAP's FT policy

limpeh2

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I have no doubt about billions. What they contribute is many many folds and they get peanuts. Thats not the issue. The gulf states are now modern cities because of them and their remittance is even more huge.

You are barking up the wrong tree. Whose is going to be maids and constuction worker in Singapore - Singaporeans.

As I said those are not the issue. After 1995, the wages of cleaners from 1,100, has dropped to $660. Our Ah Sohs and Ah Ters can no longer survive. Our Ah Lians manning cashier points at supermakets, retail stores can longer get a job because pinoys have taken over.

The reason why this govt can take Singaporeans for a wide is because you guys have no clue about what to attack and where the problem.

An ITE grad with printing qualifications cannot get a job because Ah Tiong got "cert" and he is a lot cheaper. The tool and die chaps are now from India. Go to an SIA Hangar and you think you are in Manila. The technicians are put in Bayhore apts 6 to an apt.

Employers have gone mad with the cheap foreign labour that they cutting corners on standards.

100% agree with that.

Also alot of the time these FTrash 'qualifications' & "referees" are so fake, they make LVs from China look real. Still, employers decide to close a blind eye to the glaring obvious until shit happens. There's a growing body of research on this 'phenomenon' of rampant fake qualifications from 3rd world immigration. I think our angmo neighbour, arsetralia, is now learning this lesson the hard way & their research came too late. Now not only're their dumbass IT projects in Gov & private sectors consistently failing b/c of the useless onshore bodyshops of 'qualified' keling programmers, their education standards're now even lower b/c they accepted FTrash cockroaches who can't cope. They'd to really dumbdown the curriculum to let them pass, even though these FTrash supposedly have Masters, PhDs, honours bachelor degrees from their home countries.

But I don't think I'm barking up the wrong tree. I can't help but feel that FTrashisation of Spore can screw plenty of industries while artificially propping a few others up. How many of us want to get into food business?

IMO, you get rid of or greatly reduce FTrash, you remove their bloody slanted spending habits & also the economic bleed out called remittance . Then consumption patterns'll be more closely reflected to the average Sporn.

The Sporn Gov's well aware of the vast 'undertable' remittance but it's a political issue that MIW dare not thread for fear of offending the various keling & ah tiong govs b/c those cuntries' coffers directly benefited from that.
 
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SIFU

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In a first world country, one man drives a truck with bricks for delivery. At the back of the truck is a forklift. He reaches the destination and he himself will operate the foreklift to unload. In Singapore, there will be 3 to 4 jokers and there will be 2 forklifts, one at loading and one at delivery site. No incentive to do anything. GDP still grows, space becomes a constraint.

u never see delivery of bricks in singapore using hiab crane before huh:confused::cool:
 

scroobal

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This was sometime in the mid 90s. An Ang Mo kid whose father runs a company in singapore got a job in singapore for which he was not qualified. His work visa was rejected on the basis that he did not have special qualifications and the job can be filled by any local. They appealed and they won.

I then found that all MNCs know that they will succeed if they appeal so to save time, they do not waste time writing long story the first time. Since 2000, no need to bother it will be approved. The qualification requirement is up to the employer.

NUH recruited couple of Kiwi girls for their labs. One day a local staff noticed that these girls came early to work and left at 3pm twice a week. On asking she found that they played hockey with a local club on those days. Shortly after, some of the staff wanted to take advantage of a long weekend and applied for leave. All were rejected. The Kiwi girls had booked advance leave for the whole year for all the long weekends so they could not allow other staff as they will be shorthanded. The supervisor was from Scotland. He too had got his long weekends.

Only one country that I know that can allow these kinds of things to happen. These are not low income foreigners.




100% agree with that.

Also alot of the time these FTrash 'qualifications' & "referees" are so fake, they make LVs from China look real. Still, employers decide to close a blind eye to the glaring obvious until shit happens. There's a growing body of research on this 'phenomenon' of rampant fake qualifications from 3rd world immigration. I think our angmo neighbour, arsetralia, is now learning this lesson the hard way & their research came too late. Now not only're their dumbass IT projects in Gov & private sectors consistently failing b/c of the useless onshore bodyshops of 'qualified' keling programmers, their education standards're now even lower b/c they accepted FTrash cockroaches who can't cope. They'd to really dumbdown the curriculum to let them pass, even though these FTrash supposedly have Masters, PhDs, honours bachelor degrees from their home countries.

But I don't think I'm barking up the wrong tree. I can't help but feel that FTrashisation of Spore can screw plenty of industries while artificially propping a few others up. How many of us want to get into food business?

IMO, you get rid of or greatly reduce FTrash, you remove their bloody slanted spending habits & also the economic bleed out called remittance . Then consumption patterns'll be more closely reflected to the average Sporn.

The Sporn Gov's well aware of the vast 'undertable' remittance but it's a political issue that MIW dare not thread for fear of offending the various keling & ah tiong govs b/c those cuntries' coffers directly benefited from that.
 

scroobal

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You obviously have no clue what the forklift does. Either that or HIAB invented a crane that detaches itself from the lorry and delivers the bricks close to place of construction.

Why would someone would lug a forklift on a lorry if a hiab crane can do the job.

u never see delivery of bricks in singapore using hiab crane before huh:confused::cool:
 

SIFU

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You obviously have no clue what the forklift does. Either that or HIAB invented a crane that detaches itself from the lorry and delivers the bricks close to place of construction.

Why would someone would lug a forklift on a lorry if a hiab crane can do the job.

u obviously thinks that construction site got no forklift..

or u think that any man in the street need to buy their own bricks to repair their own houses..:cool:

u got work in construction industry b4?? or u think that u r an expert in all fields??

btw how about that lie that mrs lky 'died'.. still no apology from u huh..
 

Goh Meng Seng

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Wow! These Kiwi girls are more Kiasu than Singpaoreans? Book all the long weekend?

My feeling is rather mixed about Foreign Talent policy. How could we ensure there is no job displacement of local workers?

In other countries, their trade union would have played an important role on such labor policy. But this is Singapore. The logic could be so twisted here but they are accepted without any questions.

Way back in 1999, I was questioning the wisdom of the merits of having more Foreign investment while all these employ more than half of their workers from overseas. How do they benefit us Singaporeans as a whole except putting up a good look on our GDP figures?

Anyone who have learned Econs 101 about National Income Accounting would know that increasing GDP could be done by injecting capital and labor artificially. This is exactly what is happening right now and GDP increase has no impact at all at our quality of life, least salary/income. This is basically because such increase is basically due to increase in foreign labor input, or just fluctuation in pharmaceutical output.

But such indicators are capitalized by PAP as their "track records" (sic).

Goh Meng Seng



This was sometime in the mid 90s. An Ang Mo kid whose father runs a company in singapore got a job in singapore for which he was not qualified. His work visa was rejected on the basis that he did not have special qualifications and the job can be filled by any local. They appealed and they won.

I then found that all MNCs know that they will succeed if they appeal so to save time, they do not waste time writing long story the first time. Since 2000, no need to bother it will be approved. The qualification requirement is up to the employer.

NUH recruited couple of Kiwi girls for their labs. One day a local staff noticed that these girls came early to work and left at 3pm twice a week. On asking she found that they played hockey with a local club on those days. Shortly after, some of the staff wanted to take advantage of a long weekend and applied for leave. All were rejected. The Kiwi girls had booked advance leave for the whole year for all the long weekends so they could not allow other staff as they will be shorthanded. The supervisor was from Scotland. He too had got his long weekends.

Only one country that I know that can allow these kinds of things to happen. These are not low income foreigners.
 

scroobal

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The gini index is a dead giveaway. These guys are addicted to GDP that they can't help themselves.

We were born as entrepot and foreigners have been part and parcel of Singapore life. So we were never parochial or xenophobic.

The issue hits hard when singaporeans can't get a job while there are hordes of foreigners. There is no control. Most countries seeking migrants will state the vocations and jobs where visas will be given but not singapore.

I know of an MNC where a particular dept started with one Aussie and within a year and half ended with nearly all Aussies. Its was friends and acquaintences including girlfriends and boyfriends of colleagues.

Again, rental costs is growing very fast and the cost has to be displaced by lower wage costs. The property sector is a protected sector.


Wow! These Kiwi girls are more Kiasu than Singpaoreans? Book all the long weekend?

My feeling is rather mixed about Foreign Talent policy. How could we ensure there is no job displacement of local workers?

In other countries, their trade union would have played an important role on such labor policy. But this is Singapore. The logic could be so twisted here but they are accepted without any questions.

Way back in 1999, I was questioning the wisdom of the merits of having more Foreign investment while all these employ more than half of their workers from overseas. How do they benefit us Singaporeans as a whole except putting up a good look on our GDP figures?

Anyone who have learned Econs 101 about National Income Accounting would know that increasing GDP could be done by injecting capital and labor artificially. This is exactly what is happening right now and GDP increase has no impact at all at our quality of life, least salary/income. This is basically because such increase is basically due to increase in foreign labor input, or just fluctuation in pharmaceutical output.

But such indicators are capitalized by PAP as their "track records" (sic).

Goh Meng Seng
 
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