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Military base rumors stoke Western allies’ fear of losing the Pacific to China
Published time: 20 Apr, 2018 12:55
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In early April, reports began emerging that China was seeking to build a military base in the Pacific. Are these reports “fake news,” or are we witnessing the early stages of a regional showdown between Western powers and China?
The unsubstantiated rumor of a Chinese military base in the Pacific was first reported on by Fairfax media this month, which cited unnamed sources while affirming that no formal proposal had yet been made. However, the report stated that the prospect of a Chinese military post close to Australia had been discussed at the “highest levels in Canberra and Washington.

According to the report, a “base less than 2000 kilometres from the Australian coast would allow China to project military power into the Pacific Ocean and upend the long-standing strategic balance in the region, potentially increasing the risk of confrontation between China and the United States.

Read more
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The prospective Pacific island nation in question is Vanuatu, a country with a noticeably close relationship with China. While the Western powers, especially Australia, have become increasingly concerned by China’s growing military capacity in the South China Sea through its reclaimed reefs and artificial islands, Vanuatu has been one of the very few countries who have openly supported Beijing’s island-building program. China has also donated military vehicles to Vanuatu, invested millions of dollars in infrastructure, and reportedly accounts for nearly half of Vanuatu’s $440 million foreign debt.

The Allies’ Response
As one can imagine, the report of a looming Chinese military base was not welcomed at all by US allies in the region, particularly New Zealand and Australia.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said at the time that he viewed “with great concern the establishment of any foreign military bases in those Pacific Island countries and neighbours of ours.

The maintenance of peace and stability in the Pacific is of utmost importance to us, to Australia — it’s one of the key priorities of the foreign policy white paper,” the prime minister also reportedly said.

In other words, Australia may seek to use this threat to justify a renewed militaristic foreign policy strategy of its own. After all, Australia has been sending warships to the South China Sea for military exercises even as recently as last year, and even felt it necessary to openly consider sending more vessels to confront China’s expanding influence just a few months ago. Australia also facilitated the proposal for a British warship, the HMS Sutherland, to depart Australia and voyage to the South China Sea to assert its so-called “freedom of navigation rights.” The US, for its part, sent warships to the South China Sea just this past month, as well as in January of this year, saber-rattling China in the process. Not to mention that Trump’s nominee for the US ambassador to Australia is a known anti-Chinese war hawk.

In solidarity with Australia, New Zealand’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, also voiced her opposition to what she termed the “militarization” of the Pacific, even though she hadn’t even been formally briefed on the issue at the time.

According to a prominent New Zealand outlet, the country’s government was seeking further information on the report and considering ways to respond. Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters, a notorious anti-Chinese politician who just about rattles Chinese people any chance he gets, also said there are a “number of players doing certain things in the Pacific that are not good for the peace and security” of the Pacific. He also believed that it was time for New Zealand to “step up” and “do a whole lot more in the Pacific.

In March of this year, Peters spoke about the Pacific becoming a “contested strategic space” which was “creating a degree of strategic anxiety.” He also vowed to pour more money and resources in the Pacific region, further indicating that New Zealand would back away from supporting China’s monumental Silk Road project even after New Zealand’s former government had already signed a memorandum of understanding in support of the project.

Read more
Australia & China on Pacific Ocean collision course & no one’s talking about it
All this being said, both Vanuatu and China have already heavily denied the veracity of the report, rejecting the claim that China will be building a military base in Vanuatu.

No one in the Vanuatu government has ever talked about a Chinese military base in Vanuatu of any sort,” Vanuatu’s foreign minister, Ralph Regenvanu, told Australian media. “We are a non-aligned country. We are not interested in militarisation.

By way of confirmation, China also referred to the statements from the Vanuatu Foreign Ministry, which China believed had “cleared the record.” China even referred to the report as “fake news.”

Washington irked by China’s purported ambitions

Some of you may be wondering, if both Vanuatu and China have openly denied the story, then so what? Case closed, right?

As of now, China maintains only one foreign military base in the world, being in the Horn of Africa’s Djibouti. Allegedly, the establishment of this base represents the “first pearl of a necklace” unfolding along a sea route that will connect China to the Middle East.

According to the Diplomat, there are also “credible reports” of further plans to establish naval or military facilities in locations such as Timor-Leste, the Azores islands (Portugal) in the middle of the North Atlantic, Walvis Bay (Namibia) in the South Atlantic, and Gwadar (Pakistan), with other initiatives that may not have come to light as yet (including, for example, Sri Lanka).

READ MORE: 'Chinese province of the Philippines?' Duterte says Beijing’s military bases only threaten the US

Regarding Pakistan, unnamed Chinese military officials first told the South China Morning Post (SCMP) that Beijing was looking to build a naval base in Gwadar Port in the Pakistani province of Balochistan. Almost immediately, both Pakistan and China rejected these reports, even though the speculation initially came from Chinese military officials and not from the Western media. Sound familiar?

Back to the issue at hand, Fairfax’s report clearly indicated that Beijing’s military ambition in Vanuatu “would likely be realized incrementally,” perhaps taking shape with an “access agreement that would allow Chinese naval ships to dock routinely and be serviced, refueled and restocked.”

The report also makes note of the fact that China has invested heavily in a major new wharf on the north island of Espiritu Santo, which allegedly “raised eyebrows in defence, intelligence and diplomatic circles” in Australia because it has the potential to service naval vessels as well as commercial ones (Vanuatu already hosted Chinese warships throughout last year).

And here is where it gets interesting. Luganville, on the island of Espiritu Santo, actually housed one of the largest military bases in the entire Pacific battle theatre during World War II. Its geostrategic significance cannot be understated. Whoever controls Vanuatu controls the air and sea route between the United States and Australia. This is a deal-breaker not just for the United States, but for its local lackey-states Australia and New Zealand, who act as regional care-takers for Washington’s foreign policy interests.

Double standards, hypocrisy and the road to war
Nonetheless, it is the United States that currently boasts approximately 1,000 military bases worldwide, including military research bases located in the Pacific region. The US also maintains a military budget so astronomical it far exceeds that of China. Despite this, one would be hard-pressed to find any instances of a New Zealand or Australian government criticizing the American military presence in the Pacific (or its presence on the wider global chessboard in general).

Read more
‘Descent into hell is easy’: Chinese state media warns growing US-Taiwan ties could lead to war
A report last year by Commander Thomas Shugart and Commander Javier Gonzalez at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS) suggested that these US bases were becoming deeply vulnerable to attack by China’s ballistic missile capabilities, which could cripple US military capabilities in the Asia-Pacific region while using only a fraction of its arsenal should a confrontation emerge.

Though little regard is paid to it by the media, there’s a reason Australia and the US continue to send warships to the South China Sea. It’s the same reason China has responded with live-fire military exercises that began in the Taiwan Strait this week, as China sets out to prove that it is a force to be reckoned with in the region.

Despite New Zealand and Australia’s fear-based position on this issue, it should be borne in mind that there are alternative options to the dispute which could prove far more beneficial for regional security than our current trajectory. As The Diplomat’s David Brewster explained:

Whether or not this reported proposal in Vanuatu comes to pass (and it seems less likely than more), Australia needs to better understand – and deal with – China’s growing interests in the South Pacific. If Australia sees itself as a regional leader, then it needs to show leadership in avoiding militarization of South Pacific. Rather than hoping to lock China out, Australia should be exploring ways of working with China that address some of its concerns in a manner that does not adversely affect Australia’s clear strategic interests. These issues are not going to go away.

If only the West will heed Brewster’s much needed advice, the region might avert a heavily anticipated catastrophe.

Darius Shahtahmasebi for RT

Darius Shahtahmasebi is a New Zealand based legal and political analyst. Follow him on Twitter @TVsLeaking

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She we remind jiak leow bee BE Ozzie angmoh used of gunboats against China on criminal drug opium trade in China.

Australia was one of the 八国联军 attacked China.

Keep yr mouth shut be Asian angmoh not BE angmoh.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/424685-china-australia-military-pacific/

Military base rumors stoke Western allies’ fear of losing the Pacific to China
Published time: 20 Apr, 2018 12:55
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China's aircraft carrier formation conducts exercises in South China Sea © China Military
  • 707
In early April, reports began emerging that China was seeking to build a military base in the Pacific. Are these reports “fake news,” or are we witnessing the early stages of a regional showdown between Western powers and China?
The unsubstantiated rumor of a Chinese military base in the Pacific was first reported on by Fairfax media this month, which cited unnamed sources while affirming that no formal proposal had yet been made. However, the report stated that the prospect of a Chinese military post close to Australia had been discussed at the “highest levels in Canberra and Washington.

According to the report, a “base less than 2000 kilometres from the Australian coast would allow China to project military power into the Pacific Ocean and upend the long-standing strategic balance in the region, potentially increasing the risk of confrontation between China and the United States.

Read more
USS Carl Vinson in Vietnam port: Americans hammer out new scheme to deter China
The prospective Pacific island nation in question is Vanuatu, a country with a noticeably close relationship with China. While the Western powers, especially Australia, have become increasingly concerned by China’s growing military capacity in the South China Sea through its reclaimed reefs and artificial islands, Vanuatu has been one of the very few countries who have openly supported Beijing’s island-building program. China has also donated military vehicles to Vanuatu, invested millions of dollars in infrastructure, and reportedly accounts for nearly half of Vanuatu’s $440 million foreign debt.

The Allies’ Response
As one can imagine, the report of a looming Chinese military base was not welcomed at all by US allies in the region, particularly New Zealand and Australia.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said at the time that he viewed “with great concern the establishment of any foreign military bases in those Pacific Island countries and neighbours of ours.

The maintenance of peace and stability in the Pacific is of utmost importance to us, to Australia — it’s one of the key priorities of the foreign policy white paper,” the prime minister also reportedly said.

In other words, Australia may seek to use this threat to justify a renewed militaristic foreign policy strategy of its own. After all, Australia has been sending warships to the South China Sea for military exercises even as recently as last year, and even felt it necessary to openly consider sending more vessels to confront China’s expanding influence just a few months ago. Australia also facilitated the proposal for a British warship, the HMS Sutherland, to depart Australia and voyage to the South China Sea to assert its so-called “freedom of navigation rights.” The US, for its part, sent warships to the South China Sea just this past month, as well as in January of this year, saber-rattling China in the process. Not to mention that Trump’s nominee for the US ambassador to Australia is a known anti-Chinese war hawk.

In solidarity with Australia, New Zealand’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, also voiced her opposition to what she termed the “militarization” of the Pacific, even though she hadn’t even been formally briefed on the issue at the time.

According to a prominent New Zealand outlet, the country’s government was seeking further information on the report and considering ways to respond. Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters, a notorious anti-Chinese politician who just about rattles Chinese people any chance he gets, also said there are a “number of players doing certain things in the Pacific that are not good for the peace and security” of the Pacific. He also believed that it was time for New Zealand to “step up” and “do a whole lot more in the Pacific.

In March of this year, Peters spoke about the Pacific becoming a “contested strategic space” which was “creating a degree of strategic anxiety.” He also vowed to pour more money and resources in the Pacific region, further indicating that New Zealand would back away from supporting China’s monumental Silk Road project even after New Zealand’s former government had already signed a memorandum of understanding in support of the project.

Read more
Australia & China on Pacific Ocean collision course & no one’s talking about it
All this being said, both Vanuatu and China have already heavily denied the veracity of the report, rejecting the claim that China will be building a military base in Vanuatu.

No one in the Vanuatu government has ever talked about a Chinese military base in Vanuatu of any sort,” Vanuatu’s foreign minister, Ralph Regenvanu, told Australian media. “We are a non-aligned country. We are not interested in militarisation.

By way of confirmation, China also referred to the statements from the Vanuatu Foreign Ministry, which China believed had “cleared the record.” China even referred to the report as “fake news.”

Washington irked by China’s purported ambitions

Some of you may be wondering, if both Vanuatu and China have openly denied the story, then so what? Case closed, right?

As of now, China maintains only one foreign military base in the world, being in the Horn of Africa’s Djibouti. Allegedly, the establishment of this base represents the “first pearl of a necklace” unfolding along a sea route that will connect China to the Middle East.

According to the Diplomat, there are also “credible reports” of further plans to establish naval or military facilities in locations such as Timor-Leste, the Azores islands (Portugal) in the middle of the North Atlantic, Walvis Bay (Namibia) in the South Atlantic, and Gwadar (Pakistan), with other initiatives that may not have come to light as yet (including, for example, Sri Lanka).

READ MORE: 'Chinese province of the Philippines?' Duterte says Beijing’s military bases only threaten the US

Regarding Pakistan, unnamed Chinese military officials first told the South China Morning Post (SCMP) that Beijing was looking to build a naval base in Gwadar Port in the Pakistani province of Balochistan. Almost immediately, both Pakistan and China rejected these reports, even though the speculation initially came from Chinese military officials and not from the Western media. Sound familiar?

Back to the issue at hand, Fairfax’s report clearly indicated that Beijing’s military ambition in Vanuatu “would likely be realized incrementally,” perhaps taking shape with an “access agreement that would allow Chinese naval ships to dock routinely and be serviced, refueled and restocked.”

The report also makes note of the fact that China has invested heavily in a major new wharf on the north island of Espiritu Santo, which allegedly “raised eyebrows in defence, intelligence and diplomatic circles” in Australia because it has the potential to service naval vessels as well as commercial ones (Vanuatu already hosted Chinese warships throughout last year).

And here is where it gets interesting. Luganville, on the island of Espiritu Santo, actually housed one of the largest military bases in the entire Pacific battle theatre during World War II. Its geostrategic significance cannot be understated. Whoever controls Vanuatu controls the air and sea route between the United States and Australia. This is a deal-breaker not just for the United States, but for its local lackey-states Australia and New Zealand, who act as regional care-takers for Washington’s foreign policy interests.

Double standards, hypocrisy and the road to war
Nonetheless, it is the United States that currently boasts approximately 1,000 military bases worldwide, including military research bases located in the Pacific region. The US also maintains a military budget so astronomical it far exceeds that of China. Despite this, one would be hard-pressed to find any instances of a New Zealand or Australian government criticizing the American military presence in the Pacific (or its presence on the wider global chessboard in general).

Read more
‘Descent into hell is easy’: Chinese state media warns growing US-Taiwan ties could lead to war
A report last year by Commander Thomas Shugart and Commander Javier Gonzalez at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS) suggested that these US bases were becoming deeply vulnerable to attack by China’s ballistic missile capabilities, which could cripple US military capabilities in the Asia-Pacific region while using only a fraction of its arsenal should a confrontation emerge.

Though little regard is paid to it by the media, there’s a reason Australia and the US continue to send warships to the South China Sea. It’s the same reason China has responded with live-fire military exercises that began in the Taiwan Strait this week, as China sets out to prove that it is a force to be reckoned with in the region.

Despite New Zealand and Australia’s fear-based position on this issue, it should be borne in mind that there are alternative options to the dispute which could prove far more beneficial for regional security than our current trajectory. As The Diplomat’s David Brewster explained:

Whether or not this reported proposal in Vanuatu comes to pass (and it seems less likely than more), Australia needs to better understand – and deal with – China’s growing interests in the South Pacific. If Australia sees itself as a regional leader, then it needs to show leadership in avoiding militarization of South Pacific. Rather than hoping to lock China out, Australia should be exploring ways of working with China that address some of its concerns in a manner that does not adversely affect Australia’s clear strategic interests. These issues are not going to go away.

If only the West will heed Brewster’s much needed advice, the region might avert a heavily anticipated catastrophe.

Darius Shahtahmasebi for RT

Darius Shahtahmasebi is a New Zealand based legal and political analyst. Follow him on Twitter @TVsLeaking

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She we remind jiak leow bee BE Ozzie angmoh used of gunboats against China on criminal drug opium trade in China.

Australia was one of the 八国联军 attacked China.

Keep yr mouth shut be Asian angmoh not BE angmoh.


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Ang Moh's front line commanders are crying KPKB, if not give much much more man and new war toys, they already can not withstand the PLA in Pacific.

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2018-04-24/doc-ifzqvvsa2981235.shtml

美新任太平洋司令:美军如不增兵在亚太就顶不住中国
美新任太平洋司令:美军如不增兵在亚太就顶不住中国

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  [观察者网 文/堵开源]美国《防务周刊》网站4月24日报道,候任美国太平洋司令部司令官菲利普·戴维森海军上将在公开讲话时呼吁,美军各大军种都需要增加在亚太前沿的部署兵力,他说,中国已经能够有效控制南海,并且可以向美国在整个亚太区域的军事存在发起挑战。

  在上周举行的参议院军委会听证会上,戴维森就曾表示,他将按照2018版国防战略,加强美国在“印太地区”的战备状况,他称这些行动是为了:“确保提高部署在西太平洋地区的部队的持续战备状况,以跟上中国快速现代化的脚步。”

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  美国候任太平洋战区司令戴维森

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  美国海军“拉森”号导弹驱逐舰在南海“自由航行”

  戴维森已被提名出任美国太平洋司令部司令,他认为,新国防战略强调,亚太地区的战略环境之下,美军发展和部署有能力“抵抗中国在这一地区扩大影响”的军力很有必要。他还认为,目前中国在南中国海的部署明确表明,中国正在有步骤,深思熟虑的推进其“一带一路”战略。

  戴维森认为,鉴于印太地区的距离因素,美国不能仅仅依靠美国本土的部队快速驰援,这不足以阻止中国的攻击或者造成既成事实。他认为,太平洋司令部必须充实一线力量,才能有效在印太地区遏制中国。

  他认为,目前前线部署和轮流部署的部队,在整个太平洋司令部任务区内部署的兵力都严重不足。现有的兵力结构和军事存在“不足以对抗印太地区的威胁。”

  他特别提到,太平洋司令部任务区内,在情报监视和侦察方面的需求只有25%得到满足。不过他拒绝进一步评论关于侦察情报方面不足的细节,例如究竟缺少什么,他只说:“这一短缺是确凿的,目前亚太司令部已经在提交参联会的报告中重点强调了这个问题。”

  关于太平洋司令部的任务区内需要增加的能力,他还提到了指挥控制能力的缺陷,此外,他认为美剧还需要“一种融合远程、高速、致命性能,以及生存性和精确性的弹药,这种导弹需要装备在战舰、潜艇、巡逻飞机,以及陆基飞机,如轰炸机和战斗机上。”除此之外,他还认为需要数量上能够压倒对手的第五代战斗机,以及与之配套的加油机和运输机,在近期内,如果要在“区域拒止”环境下取得优势,这些新装备、新能力的加强都是必须的,他说。

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  澳大利亚报纸统计的美国第七舰队、第七舰队驻日兵力和中国海空军实力对比,可见这其中驻日的第七舰队兵力处于被压倒的地位

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  1894年甲午中日战争时中日海军实力主要参数对比和2014年中日海军实力主要参数对比

  戴维森还提到,一些战场上新出现的武器,例如快速全球打击武器,即高超声速导弹,他说:“这将太平洋司令部的军事需要”,这将能够扩展对抗空间,将对手引入美国擅长而他们缺乏力量的方面。

  不过,他表示,在这方面,中国也在快速发展,并且他们已经开始部署太空武器,新一代弹道导弹和网络战能力。

  戴维森还表示,他最担心的方面是“后续部队”,这些部队平时部署在美国本土,在冲突情况下将会被部署到太平洋战区的管辖范围内。但戴维森认为,目前这些部队人力不足、训练不足,装备也没有到位。近年来在这方面,美军存在持续性的资源投入不足,包括人员装备补充不及时,财政削减带来的建军计划延误等等,都导致了后续部队规模和部署速度上难以满足进行快速军事反应的需要。

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New U.S. Pacific Commander: U.S. Troops Can't Hold China in Asia Pacific
New U.S. Pacific Commander: U.S. Troops Can't Hold China in Asia Pacific
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[Observer Network Post / Blocking Open Source] The US "Defense Weekly" website reported on April 24th that the Admiral Philip Davidson, the commanding officer of the US Pacific Command, said in an open speech that all major US military services need to increase in Asia-Pacific. At the forefront of deployment, he said that China has been able to effectively control the South China Sea and can challenge the United States’ military presence throughout the Asia-Pacific region.

At the Senate Armed Services hearing held last week, Davidson had stated that he will strengthen the combat readiness of the United States in the "Indo-Pacific region" in accordance with the 2018 version of the national defense strategy. He called these actions: "Ensuring increased deployment in the Western Pacific. The continued readiness of troops in the region to keep pace with China’s rapid modernization.”

U.S. Commander David Davidson

US Navy "Lassen" guided missile destroyer "free sailing" in the South China Sea

Davidson has been nominated as the commander of the US Pacific Command. He believes that the new national defense strategy emphasizes that under the strategic environment of the Asia-Pacific region, it is necessary for the development and deployment of the US military to have the capability to "resist China's expansion in the region." He also believes that the current deployment of China in the South China Sea clearly demonstrates that China is taking steps to deliberately advance its "One Belt and One Road" strategy.

Davidson believes that given the distance between the Indo-Pacific region, the United States cannot rely solely on the troops of the United States to quickly rescue them. This is not enough to stop China's attacks or create faits accomplis. He believes that the Pacific Command must enrich its frontline forces to effectively contain China in the Indo-Pacific region.

He believes that the forces deployed at the front line and deployed in rotation have a serious shortage of troops deployed throughout the mission area of the Pacific Command. The existing military structure and military presence "are not enough to counter the threat in the Indo-Pacific region."

In particular, he mentioned that only 25% of the requirements for intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance in the Pacific Command mission area have been met. However, he declined to comment further on the details of the lack of reconnaissance intelligence, such as what is missing, he only said: "This shortage is conclusive, and the current Asia Pacific Command has already highlighted this issue in its report to the Joint Committee."

Regarding the need for increased capacity in Pacific Command’s mission area, he also mentioned the deficiencies in command and control capabilities. In addition, he believes that the US drama also needs “an ammunition that combines long-range, high-speed, deadly performance, and survivability and accuracy. The missile needs to be equipped on warships, submarines, patrol aircraft, and land-based aircraft such as bombers and fighter jets.” In addition, he also believes that there is a need for a number of fifth-generation fighters that can overwhelm their opponents. In the near term, if tankers and transport aircraft are to gain advantages in the "rejection of the region," these new equipment and new capabilities must be strengthened, he said.

The comparison between the strength of the US Seventh Fleet and the Seventh Fleet of the US Seventh Fleet and the Seventh Fleet in Japan and the strength of China's navy and air force shows that the strength of the Seventh Fleet in Japan is in an overwhelming position.

The Comparison of Main Parameters of Chinese and Japanese Naval Strength in Sino-Japanese War of 1894 and the Comparison of Main Parameters of Navy Strength between China and Japan in 2014

Davidson also mentioned that some of the newly emerging weapons on the battlefield, such as fast global strike weapons, namely hypersonic missiles, he said: "This will be the military needs of Pacific Command," which will be able to expand the confrontation space and introduce rivals into the United States. And they lack strength.

However, he said that in this regard, China is also developing rapidly and they have begun to deploy space weapons, a new generation of ballistic missiles and cyber warfare capabilities.

Davidson also stated that what he is most concerned about is the “supplementary force.” These forces are usually deployed in the United States and will be deployed to the jurisdiction of the Pacific Theater in case of conflict. However, Davidson believes that at present these troops are understaffed, undertrained and equipped. In recent years, in this regard, the continued shortage of U.S. military resources, including the delay in the recruitment of personnel and equipment, and delays in the plan to build military units caused by fiscal cuts, all contributed to the difficulty in meeting the size and deployment speed of follow-up forces and the rapid military response. Needs.
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tanwahtiu

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China is going to invade America to return the lands back to the native Americans. Native Americans were early Chinese migrants settled in American soil first.
 

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The yankees are overreacting. The chink navy has no real war experience, same for their crappy dongdongchang missiles.
 

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Theres a Chinatown in every country in the world,sometimes in more than one state...if China were to project power,1.3 billion tiongs will spill forth and drown the world in cream if sum Yung guy and dong fang yang tou Foo.
 
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China show show only lah. On the trade front, China talk big about retaliating; then it caved in, giving Trump bragging rights.

Until I see an active base with lots of firepower in the pacific, all the big talk from China is empty.

Let's have a fight between China and USA. We need a war badly.
 

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China show show only lah. On the trade front, China talk big about retaliating; then it caved in, giving Trump bragging rights.

Until I see an active base with lots of firepower in the pacific, all the big talk from China is empty.

Let's have a fight between China and USA. We need a war badly.

Chinese are passive people.we dislike confrontation and war.its the entire world that keeps pushing our buttons and bullying chinks.and when we start building up our military in self defense,they start accusing us of fearmongering when it's the whites that are the most Savage warmongering bloodlusting race in the world.name me one race that is literally at war with every other race through out history.
 

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Chinese are passive people.we dislike confrontation and war.its the entire world that keeps pushing our buttons and bullying chinks.and when we start building up our military in self defense,they start accusing us of fearmongering when it's the whites that are the most Savage warmongering bloodlusting race in the world.name me one race that is literally at war with every other race through out history.

Then Ah Tiongs must adapt to the new world. Put Trump's America in its place. Show the world that Ah Tiong means business ...don't push them around.
No action, talk only makes Ah Tiongs a laughing stock in the world.

If Xi wants the world to treat China respectfully, then China needs to stake its claim in the world stage.
 

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Then Ah Tiongs must adapt to the new world. Put Trump's America in its place. Show the world that Ah Tiong means business ...don't push them around.
No action, talk only makes Ah Tiongs a laughing stock in the world.

If Xi wants the world to treat China respectfully, then China needs to stake its claim in the world stage.

Xi Jin ping can do that by building the first Chinatown and great Wall on mars.no need to resort to Ang moh childishness.
 

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Theres a Chinatown in every country in the world,sometimes in more than one state...if China were to project power,1.3 billion tiongs will spill forth and drown the world in cream if sum Yung guy and dong fang yang tou Foo.
china is already flooding the world with massage parlors disguised as "spas", filling them with prostitutes, and selling their diseased rotten cunts. now they are stealing succulent plants from the coast of northern california and smuggling them back home where a handful can sell for $69 a bushel. disgraceful, despicable and deplorable.

tiongs kena caught with a bunch of succulents at u.s post office in mendocino trying to ship them back to china.
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china is already flooding the world with massage parlors disguised as "spas", filling them with prostitutes, and selling their diseased rotten cunts. now they are stealing succulent plants from the coast of northern california and smuggling them back home where a handful can sell for $69 a bushel. disgraceful, despicable and deplorable.

tiongs kena caught with a bunch of succulents at u.s post office in mendocino trying to ship them back to china.
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The Ah Tiongs are helping California ...instead of prosecuting them, they should be honored for helping to curb the population of these plants. ;-)
 

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http://www.newsweek.com/us-military-commander-only-war-could-stop-china-controlling-south-sea-895666

Only 'War' Could Stop China From Controlling South China Sea, U.S. Military Commander Says
By Tom O'Connor On 4/20/18 at 3:58 PM
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Updated | The head of U.S. Fleet Forces Command told lawmakers that China has become powerful enough to enforce its vast territorial claims across the disputed South China Sea and only an armed conflict would be able to stop this.

Navy Admiral Philip S. Davidson, who has been nominated for head of U.S. Pacific Command, submitted the written remarks for his hearing in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday. He said that China's expanding military presence, including secret island bases, in the waters of the Asia Pacific have given its People's Liberation Army (PLA) a step toward total dominance of the region, where countries such as Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam contest China's expansive, self-proclaimed maritime borders.

"Once occupied, China will be able to extend its influence thousands of miles to the south and project power deep into Oceania. The PLA will be able to use these bases to challenge U.S. presence in the region, and any forces deployed to the islands would easily overwhelm the military forces of any other South China Sea-claimants," Davidson wrote.

"In short, China is now capable of controlling the South China Sea in all scenarios short of war with the United States," he added.



https://www.businessinsider.sg/china-growing-submarine-force-worrying-pacific-us-2018-3/?r=UK&IR=T

China’s growing submarine force is ‘armed to the teeth’ — and the rest of the Pacific is racing to keep up

Christopher Woody, Business Insider US
May 5, 2015
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  • Countries in East Asia, led by China, have been pursuing a military buildup for years.
  • Submarines, flexible platforms with strategic uses, have been a particular focus.
  • Uncertainty about the balance of power in the region has stoked countries’ pursuit of military hardware.
In October 2006, a Chinese Song-class diesel-electric submarine capable of carrying torpedoes and antiship missiles surfaced within firing range of the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk.

“Some navy officers interpreted it as a ‘Gotcha!’ move,” journalist Michael Fabey wrote in his 2017 book, “Crashback.” It was “a warning from China that US carrier groups could no longer expect to operate with impunity.”

Almost exactly nine years later, China again demonstrated its growing naval prowess, when a Kilo-class diesel-electric attack sub shadowed the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan near southern Japan.


One defense official told The Washington Free Beacon that the sub’s appearance “set off alarm bells on the Reagan,” though there was no sign of threatening behavior.


The US still “owns the undersea realm in the western Pacific right now and is determined” to maintain it, Fabey told Business Insider in a February interview. But “China has grown – in terms of maritime power, maritime projection – more quickly than any country in the region,” he added. “The growth has been incredible.”

That expansion has prompted similar moves by its neighbors, who are asking whether China will abide by or remake the rules of the road.

‘Armed to the teeth’
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The Virginia-class attack sub USS North Dakota.
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Since 2002, China has built 10 nuclear subs: six Shang I- and II-class nuclear-powered attack subs – capable of firing antiship and land-attack missiles – and four Jin-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile subs, according to a 2017 US Defense Department assessment.

“China’s four operational JIN-class SSBNs represent China’s first credible, seabased nuclear deterrent,” the assessment notes. Documents accidentally posted online by a Chinese shipbuilder also revealed plans for a new, quieter nuclear-powered attack submarine as well as a separate “quiet” submarine project.

The brunt of China’s undersea force, however, is its diesel-electric subs. It has access to 54 diesel-electric subs, but it’s not clear if all of them are in service, according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies, which said China’s current operational diesel-electric fleet was likely 48 subs.

The Defense Department believes China could have about 70 subs by 2020. While it looks unlikely to build more nuclear subs by then, adding 20 Yuan-class diesel-electric subs “seems to be entirely reasonable,” IISS says.

Thatexpansion would require more investment in training and maintenance, but diesel-electric subs are potent, Fabey said.

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A Chinese sub at Ngong Shuen Chau Naval Base in Hong Kong.
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“The submarine force [China is] putting out there is substantial, and partly because they have a lot of diesel-electrics and nuclear forces,” he told Business Insider. “Those diesel-electrics especially are … armed to the teeth. They’re armed with antiship missiles that really can give anyone, including the US forces, serious pause.”

China’s subs are also stretching their legs.

In May 2016, a Chinese nuclear-powered attack sub docked in Karachi, Pakistan – the first port call in South Asia by a Chinese nuclear attack sub, according to the Defense Department. (Chinese subs previously made port calls in Sri Lanka, much to India’s chagrin.)

In January 2017, a Chinese attack sub returning from anti-piracy patrols in the western Indian Ocean stopped in a Malaysian port on the South China Sea, over which Beijing has made expansive and contested claims. A Malaysian official said it was the first time a Chinese sub had visited the country.

In January 2018, a Chinese Shang-class nuclear-powered attack sub was detected in the contiguous zone around the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands in the East China Sea – the first confirmed identification of a Chinese sub that area. That wasn’t the first unannounced maneuver by Chinese subs in the East China Sea, but those islands are disputed, and Japan protested the sub’s presence in that zone.

“You’re seeing Chinese submarines farther and farther and farther away” from China, Fabey said. “Chinese subs now make routine patrols into the Indian Ocean … This is a very big deal, just in terms of what you have to think is out there.”

‘Driving the Chinese absolutely crazy’
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A Chinese Shang-class nuclear attack submarine in the contiguous zone of the Senkaku Islands
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The US Navy has roughly 50 nuclear-powered attack subs. But many are aging, and the Navy’s most recent force-structure analysis said 66 attack subs were needed.

US Navy Adm. Harry Harris, head of Pacific Command, has said his command has half the subs it needs to meet its peacetime requirements. Adm. John Richardson, chief of naval operations, has also said maintenance backlogs could hinder efforts to deploy additional subs in the event of a conflict.

A sub shortfall was expected in the mid-2020s, as production of new Virginia-class attack subs was reduced after production of new Colombia-class ballistic-missile subs started in 2021. But the Navy has said US industry can continue to build two Virginia-class subs a year, even after starting to build one Columbia-class sub a year in 2021.

The 2018 budget included also money for increased production of Virginia-class subs – which are “the creme de la creme,” Fabey said.

China’s neighbors are also racing to add subs, looking not only for a military edge, but also to keep an eye on their turf.

Diesel-electrics are relatively cheap, and countries like Russia and China are willing to sell them, Fabey said. “So you have this big proliferation of diesel-electric subs, because with just the purchase of a few diesel-electric subs, a nation can develop a strategic force.”

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Crew members on the Virginia-class attack sub USS John Warner.
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“All those countries, they’re the home team, so they don’t need to have nuclear subs necessarily to go anywhere [and] project power,” he said. “They want to just project power in their little neighborhoods, and that’s why diesel-electrics are so amazingly good.”

“When you go and you go down to the thermals, the different layers of the ocean, it becomes very hard to detect subs … and you shut off everything except for electric power – it puts out less of a signal than a light bulb would,” Fabey added.

Between 2009 and 2016, Vietnam bought six Russian-made Kilo-class subs. That force “is driving the Chinese absolutely crazy,” Fabey said, “because China can no longer just operate in the Gulf of Tonkin, for example, at will.”

Japan is also growing its navy, which had 18 subs in early 2016. In November, it launched its 10th Soryu-class diesel-electric sub, and in March it commissioned its ninth Soryu-class sub. Those subs have air-independent propulsion systems that allow them to remain submerged for up to two weeks. They also have quieting technology, can carry torpedoes and antiship missiles, and excel at navigating tough seascapes.

Indonesia, which had two subs as of spring 2017, is looking to add subs that can operate in shallow coastal waters. In August 2017, it commissioned its first attack sub in 34 years – a diesel-electric capable of carrying torpedoes and guided missiles and of performing anti-surface and anti-sub warfare.

In early 2017, Indonesia was working with or in talks with South Korean, French, and Russian shipbuilders to acquire more subs. (Jakarta has since reduced its original requirement for 12 new subs by 2024 to eight.)

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A Japan Maritime Self-Defense Forces diesel-electric submarine in an undated photo released by Japan and obtained by Reuters on September 1, 2014.
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Taiwan, whose efforts to buy foreign subs to join its four aging subs have been thwarted by China, announced a domestic sub-building program in spring 2017.

India already more than a dozen subs in active service. The country’s first domestic nuclear-powered ballistic-missile sub, INS Arihant, was commissioned in late 2016, after a seven-year development process. The next Arihant-class sub, INS Aridaman, was poised for launch in late 2017. India’s latest sub, the diesel-electric, first-in-class INS Kalvari, was commissioned in December 2017.

The next two Kalvari-class subs, built by a French firm, have already arrived. The six and last Kalvari-class sub is due to join the fleet in 2020. In July 2017, New Dehli contacted foreign shipyards with a request for information about building its next six nonnuclear subs.

India’s efforts have been plagued by delays, however. The Kalvari was supposed to be delivered in 2012 but was four years late. Mistakes have also set India back – the Arihant, for example, has been out of service since early 2017, when it flooded because a hatch was left open as it submerged.

India has expressed considerable concern about Chinese naval activity in the Indian Ocean, which includes submarine patrols, as well as its efforts to court countries in the region.

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India’s first-in-class Kalvari submarine at Naval Dockyard in Mumbai in October 2015.
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Beijing has sold subs to Bangladesh, which has bought two, Pakistan, which has bought eight, and Thailand, which may buy up to four.

Countries buying Chinese subs rely on China’s naval officers and technicians for support and maintenance – which extends Beijing’s influence.

“I believe that’s a counter to the increasing encroachment by Chinese forces,” Fabey said of India’s naval activity

“What the two countries have established on land, they’re now looking to establish in the ocean, India especially,” he added. “It’s not about to let China encroach just willy-nilly.”

All these countries are likely to face challenges developing and maintaining a sub force, Fabey said, pointing to the case of Argentina’s ARA San Juan, a diesel-electric sub lost with all hands in the South Atlantic last year. But subs are not the only military hardware in demand in East Asia, and the buildup comes alongside uncertainty about the balance of power in the region.

Apprehension about China’s growth has been tempered by increasing economic reliance on Beijing. And the current and previous US administration have left countries in the region, including longtime allies, unsure about what role the US is willing to play there.

“Everyone out in Asia is on one hand scared of China, and the other hand, they need China for trade,” Fabey said. “Also there’s a real sense of, ‘China’s right here, America’s on the other side of the world.'”

“And there’s a sense of reevaluating China,” he added, “because if you don’t have the 500-pound gorilla from the West, then you’ve got to worry about the 500-pound dragon in the East a little bit more.”

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BE and AE wealth was built from humilating illegal opium trades with China.

If China had this power gunboats in 1700 to 1800s, bankrupt BE and AE angmoh won't be this wealthy States today.

Try to go war to China in SCS?

The next WW3 will be in UK or US soil. China new power gunboats will flatten the hell of US soil and see exodus of US refugess and capital flight $ out of beggar bankrupt US.

The victims of US bully are waiting for return of China to protect against the world no.1 enemy US.

 
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