An Unjust Death

[jw5]

Many people have either forgotten about this case or have lost interest in it.
A few years ago, a china national killed his singaporean restaurant supervisor over a dispute they had at work. It was reported that after he killed his supervisor, the china national shouted "We china people are not to be bullied". I'm not sure, but I think the killer got only a few years jail for his crime, not more than 5 if I recall correctly. Hope someone can confirm or correct this.

Which of us here has not got into work disputes with our supervisors before? Which of us here has not got into work disputes with our subordinates? I believe we all have, but none of us has killed or been killed because of a work dispute. I don't profess to know all the facts of the case and neither do I know what the supervisor said or did. What he said or did couldn't have been pretty, but I don't think it deserved getting him killed. He was a young man at the prime of his life with a bright future ahead of him. Another important point is that he was working in his own country. He had not ventured to another country for greener pastures or to make more money, he was simply trying to make a living in his homeland.

If the punishment was indeed less than 5 years, it is certainly not enough.
What do you think? Can you offer more facts or some insights?

 

[tonychat]

Many people have either forgotten about this case or have lost interest in it.
A few years ago, a china national killed his singaporean restaurant supervisor over a dispute they had at work. It was reported that after he killed his supervisor, the china national shouted "We china people are not to be bullied". I'm not sure, but I think the killer got only a few years jail for his crime, not more than 5 if I recall correctly. Hope someone can confirm or correct this.

Which of us here has not got into work disputes with our supervisors before? Which of us here has not got into work disputes with our subordinates? I believe we all have, but none of us has killed or been killed because of a work dispute. I don't profess to know all the facts of the case and neither do I know what the supervisor said or did. What he said or did couldn't have been pretty, but I don't think it deserved getting him killed. He was a young man at the prime of his life with a bright future ahead of him. Another important point is that he was working in his own country. He had not ventured to another country for greener pastures or to make more money, he was simply trying to make a living in his homeland.

If the punishment was indeed less than 5 years, it is certainly not enough.
What do you think? Can you offer more facts or some insights?

Why do people need to remember that? what for?

 

[jixiaolan]

Dispute between 2 staff at restaurant ends in death of 25-year-old
By Julia Ng, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 10 March 2007 2257 hrs




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SINGAPORE : A fight between two staff at the Soup Spoon restaurant at Raffles City Shopping Centre resulted in the death of one of them.

Police said they received a call at 7.05pm that a fight had taken place at the restaurant located at the basement of Raffles City.

When they arrived, they found a 25-year-old Singaporean lying face down on the kitchen floor, with a stab wound on his back.

A 43-year-old China national, also a staff of the restaurant, was arrested at the scene.

Police are currently investigating the incident. - CNA /ls


Kitchen help jailed 4 years for fatal stabbing
Selina Lum
Fri, Jan 18, 2008
The Straits Times



A SHORTAGE of spoons at a busy Raffles City restaurant sparked a heated row between a supervisor and a subordinate that ended with the tragic death of the boss.
On Friday, kitchen assistant Wang Zhenjun, 44, was jailed four years for fatally stabbing his supervisor Tan Guanhua, 25, at The Soup Spoon eatery last year.
Wang, a Chinese national, pleaded guilty to one charge of manslaughter in the High Court. He could have been jailed for up to 10 years, or for life.
In a curious situation, his own lawyer pleaded for six years, a longer sentence than those imposed in cases cited by prosecutors.
The court heard that Wang worked at another outlet of the restaurant, but every Saturday, he supplemented his income by working at the Raffles City branch.
There was no bad blood between the two men. But on the evening of March 10, Mr Tan walked into the kitchen of the eatery and told Wang to wash the spoons first as there was a shortage in the dining area.
Wang's job was to collect dirty utensils and wash them using a dishwashing machine.
Wang told his supervisor that before he could wash the spoons, he first had to take the utensils out of the dishwasher.
Mr Tan then shouted at him to wash the spoons immediately.
A scuffle broke out after Mr Tan punched Wang in the left cheek.
Five other employees who were in the kitchen rushed forward and separated the two men, who continued shouting at each other.
When Mr Tan tried to get at Wang, the kitchen helper grabbed a knife lying on the dishwasher and stabbed him.
After Mr Tan collapsed, bleeding profusely, Wang declared: 'We China people are not that easy to be bullied.'
Paramedics pronounced Mr Tan dead on the spot.
Wang confessed to police at the scene that he had stabbed Mr Tan and pointed out the weapon, a blood-stained knife with a 20-cm blade.
An autopsy found a single stab wound on the dead man's back.
Wang originally faced the death penalty for murder but the charge was reduced following a psychiatric report that he had a moderate depressive episode.
Wang's assigned lawyer, Mr Alan Moh, on Friday pleaded for leniency, stressing that his client was not responsible for the scuffle.
The lawyer cited manslaughter cases which attracted sentences of eight to nine years. He asked for a 'light sentence' of six years.
On the other hand, Deputy Public Prosecutor Peter Koy cited three similar cases ? of killings during an altercation - in which the offenders were sentenced to between 3 1/2 and 4 1/2 years.
This prompted Justice Kan Ting Chiu to remark to Mr Moh: 'This is one of those rare situations. He seems to have cited cases more favourable to your client than you have.'
In passing sentence, Justice Kan took into account that the incident was not premeditated and there was an element of provocation.
'It appears that he was the one who started the altercation and he threw the first punch,' said the judge.
'In the course of that, you inflicted one stab wound on the deceased which unfortunately proved to be fatal.'

 

[tonychat]

Firstly, the sinkie shouted and that is very rude. I dunno but i think his sinkieness causes his death. nobody likes to be shouted. If he is nice and polite, he can prolong his life and relationship is build up positively.

This is one case that sinkie behavior kills.

 

[jw5]

Thanks Jixiaolan.
4 years, that's all he got.
The victim was 25 years old, and he merely told him to wash some spoons. Ok so there was some ordering about and shouting, but who has not been ordered about or shouted at before?
Don't forget that the china national came here for greener pastures, the singaporean guy was just trying to earn a living in his homeland.
He didn't deserve this.

 

[Highfalutin]

Funny thing when it comes to murder charges involving foreigners, its always downgraded to manslaughter because of mitigating psychiatric conditions. But when it comes to Singaporeans with mental problems committing murder, its deemed not relevant for most cases. The last case I can remember of a Singaporean getting away from a murder charge was Constance Chee, the ex stewardess charge with killing her lover, the garang guni man's daughter by throwing her down a block of flats. She was defended by, you guessed it, Subash Ananda.

 

[ps07857]

all these for some spoons.... u go to NTUC to buy plastic spoons only a few dollars. A few dollars only.... This is unbelievable. You gotta take give and take some...

 

[bryanlim1972]

Thanks Jixiaolan.
4 years, that's all he got.
The victim was 25 years old, and he merely told him to wash some spoons. Ok so there was some ordering about and shouting, but who has not been ordered about or shouted at before?
Don't forget that the china national came here for greener pastures, the singaporean guy was just trying to earn a living in his homeland.
He didn't deserve this.

...A scuffle broke out after Mr Tan punched Wang in the left cheek.
Five other employees who were in the kitchen rushed forward and separated the two men, who continued shouting at each other.
When Mr Tan tried to get at Wang, the kitchen helper grabbed a knife lying on the dishwasher and stabbed him.

Mr Tan kena stabbed after being held back by his kitchen staff. maybe they should be held as accessories too...

this reminds me of the jackie chan movie Shinjuku incident... moral of the story, don't fuck with a desperate china man.

 

[Watchman]

Why do people need to remember that? what for?

Remember that somewhere along the way .
The punishment melted out is superficial .
Almost in support of foreign workers policies .

Reinforcing the idea of kangaroo court status !