Serious AMDKs' Balls Shrinked! Tiongs Making 7NM Chips Despite Embargo!

[congo9]

US damn dumb , cos those equipment fir srmicon ,many buyer did not actually make full use of its capabilities, this is the outcome，

Chips, Silk and Paper: You Can’t Keep Secrets Forever
The Huawei semiconductor breakthrough is just part of a long history of the spread — or theft — of what we now call intellectual property

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A Kirin 9000s chip fabricated in China by Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp.
A Kirin 9000s chip fabricated in China by Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. Photographer: James Park/Bloomberg
5 September 2023 at 12:00 GMT+8
China appears to have built a chip that matches some of the West’s most advanced semiconductors. While it may alarm US defense experts and sanctions proponents, the development shouldn’t have been too surprising. Industrial secrets are impossible to keep for long, as the Chinese themselves know from millennia of what we’d now call intellectual property lost by way of trade, theft and war. No one has a monopoly on innovation.

The progress toward parity with the West was revealed in a teardown conducted for Bloomberg News of the latest smartphone from Huawei Technologies Co., which utilizes a chip made by Shanghai-based Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp. The Kirin 9000s chip is still two generations behind the most advanced Western products. At 7 nanometers, it will soon be outdistanced by the even thinner 3-nanometer chip that Apple Inc. will use in its next iPhone. Still, it reflects a porousness that lets knowhow slip through stringent US sanctions.

Of course you can't keep secrets forever but you can keep the equipment being sold from and to these thieves.

These article is so dumb. The Tiong loving people would write these thing.

 

[ODACHEK]

7nm still far away from 4nm....but I think China can do it, just a matter of time.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

China dodges western 5G chip embargo with new Huawei Mate 60 phone | Huawei
A screen advertises the new Mate 60 smartphone on a Huawei store in Shanghai
A screen advertises the new Mate 60 5G smartphone on a Huawei store in Shanghai. China was thought to be unable to produce the 7nm chips it uses. Photograph: Alex Plavevski/EPA
Mate 60 Pro mobile phone is said to use chip made in China that was thought impossible without access to restricted western technology

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China has produced a 5G smartphone using an advanced silicon chip on a scale of miniaturisation that was thought beyond its capabilities due to US-led export restrictions, analysts have said.

Huawei’s Mate 60 Pro is powered by a new Kirin 9000s chip that was made in China by the partly state-owned Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corp (SMIC), the analysis firm TechInsights said.

Its processor is the first to use SMIC’s most advanced 7 nanometre (nm) technology and suggests the Chinese government is making some headway in attempts to build a domestic chip ecosystem, the research firm said.

Since 2019, the US has restricted Huawei’s access to chipmaking tools essential for producing the most advanced handset models. Despite being a manufacturer of 5G network equipment, Huawei was previously only able to launch limited batches of actual 5G phones using stockpiled chips.

Huawei has been banned from providing 5G network equipment in numerous countries, including those of the Five Eyes security alliance, over national security concerns raised by its ties to the Chinese government. Huawei has filed a lawsuit with a Lisbon court against operators there being barred from using its equipment in 5G mobile networks.

Dan Hutcheson, an analyst with TechInsights, told Reuters the latest development came as a “slap in the face” to the US.

The most advanced chip SMIC had previously been known for making had a larger scale of 14nm, because SMIC was barred by Washington in late 2020 from obtaining the necessary machines from Dutch firm ASML.

But TechInsights said in 2022 it believed SMIC had managed to produce 7nm chips by tweaking simpler machines that it could still purchase freely from ASML. However, some research firms have forecast that only 50% or fewer of 7nm chips produced this way would turn out to be usable, versus the industry norm of 90% or more, and it would limit shipments of the resulting smartphones.

Outside China, the best 7nm chips are made using a process called extreme ultraviolet lithography (EUV) – a closely guarded technology that the US is leading the push to keep out of Beijing’s hands.

“The [US] controls are imposing high costs for producing controlled technologies in China,” said Doug Fuller, a chip researcher at the Copenhagen Business School, adding that the Chinese government was likely footing the bill.

China is set to launch a new state-backed investment fund that aims to raise about $40bn for its chip sector, as the country ramps up efforts to catch up with the US and other rivals.

Huawei started selling its Mate 60 Pro phone last week. The specifications provided advertised its ability to make satellite calls, but offered no information on the power of the chipset inside.

Buyers of the phone in China have been posting teardown videos and sharing speed tests on social media that suggest the Mate 60 Pro is capable of download speeds exceeding those of top-line 5G phones.

The phone’s launch sent Chinese social media users and state media into a frenzy, with some noting it coincided with a visit by the US commerce secretary, Gina Raimondo.

Some analysts said there was a possibility Huawei had purchased the tech and equipment from SMIC to make the chip rather than doing it in collaboration.

TechInsight’s findings were first reported by Bloomberg News.

With Reuters

 

[hairylee]

Wonder what happened to the European towns the chairman built as offices in China.

 

[congo9]

Frankly speaking you won't know how does the 7nm perform on the Hua Wei phone.

 

[blackmondy]

 

[winners]

It won't work lah. Even if this is true, their yield is only at less than 50% against the industry standard of over 90% (by TSMC and Samsung).