After Beijing's Congress, all eyes are on Annexation of Taiwan, final coffin nail!

[syed putra]

If the fuckiens soo good? Than why they don't declare independence? And why they stick to the status quo? N when push comes to shove why they willing to surrender to the commies? Soo good they would not have lost the civil war or would have reconquered China along time ago. Fuckiens are one fucking kind.

The fuckiens already controlled independent singapore.ehy you 5hink there are defense excercises held with taiwan? It will be a two prong attack. One in the north and a pincer from the south. Plus a revolution in xinjiang.
Xi jinping stand no chance. Not even kim jung un will offer him assylum.

 

[JohnTan]

Taiwan is an independent country. Chinks should fuck off!

 

[Truth_Hurts]

Taiwan is an independent country. Chinks should fuck off!

The fuckiens in Taiwan don't think they are independent..they believe in the status quo

 

[Truth_Hurts]

How many Hakkas are there in Taiwan? I did not know that Hakkas out number the fuckiens n force succession in fuckein land

福建 Folks are loyalists and patriots.

When 明 Dynasty fell to 清 Dynasty, 福建 was final strong hold and base of final Fight Back struggles. 郑成功 Led these wars based in 福建 + 台湾。

When KMT lost to Communist Mao 福建 + 台湾 were still their final strong hold. Until ROC in 台湾 still the 福建 were with KMT shouting Retake Mainland 反攻大陆 daily.

Separatism are the 客家 Hakka bastards swines and mixed blood bastards from 50 years of Japs rule rape child's of Japs, these are the bastards like DPP and 汉奸 李登辉。

So called 狗日本 皇民 aka loyal to 狗日本 天皇。

These are the 台独 汉奸。 Must torture and slay without any mercy.

 

[swine_flu_H1H1]

All these proves that chinese are murderous war mongers and sadists.

And that is THE ONLY CORRECT and NATURAL WAY, and all else are wrong.

Kindness is the EVIL and HYPOCRISY that will lead to Total Extinction Suicide.

 

[swine_flu_H1H1]

Taiwan is an independent country. Chinks should fuck off!

It is by natural law and system to be decided by primitive brutal wars, and see who lives and who dies and survivor gains all. Civilized considerations must be all flushed down the toilet period.

This is the way the universe is since day one and for millions of year well maintained and correctly kept in perfect balance this way. Until idiot human tried to commit suicide and invented modern civilization stupidity to ruin whole planet and possibly whole universe.

 

[syed putra]

War front with India, PLA's latest J-16 twin seat twin engine air superiority will eat up Ah Neh's SU-30MKI flat. Better speed, ceiling, better radars see enemies before they see you, better radar jammers, better missiles @ longer range, can kill enemy before their missiles can reach you.

If that is the J-16 in the picture, it looks exactly like the soviet jets they copied.

 

[KuanTi01]

Taiwan is an independent country. Chinks should fuck off!

If Taiwan is an independent country why is it not recognised as such by the UN which only recognises China.Taiwan is faking its own independence when it is a mere cock-sucking vassal state of the USA and Japan. USA and Japan should both fuck off instead.

 

[Truth_Hurts]

If Taiwan is an independent country why is it not recognised as such by the UN which only recognises China.Taiwan is faking its own independence when it is a mere cock-sucking vassal state of the USA and Japan. USA and Japan should both fuck off instead.

Ah tiong land for veto power to prevent the UN from recognising Taiwan as independent. Taiwan does not have a seat in the UN because of the stupidity of Chiang Kai shek.

 

[war is best form of peace]

Weather ANY land or people are considered independent or not is decided by the forces who fight and die for this status. Not important weather the world recognized or not. It is weather you have the control.

Especially when MAJOR POWER are concerned the rest of the world are not at all so big, e.g. Russia Annexed Crimea. What can UN or US do about? Dare Dotard says Crimea is not Puntin's Russia?

Any sovereignty is NEVER UP TO WORLD RECOGNITION, it is up to PHYSICAL CONTROL. Islamic State is another example. Stupid world can dream of their own imaginary state that already vanished such as Libya where no real government exist any more. Yet Google Map still want to show an imaginary country and flag on wikipedia. Fucking joke. This type of Childish Attitude make Pee Sai feels self-secure while actual security is only a good feeling illusion and physically not in existence.

 

[PretenderSam]

If that is the J-16 in the picture, it looks exactly like the soviet jets they copied.

Even an extremely smart person like you make mistake occasionally. Those jets are not copied
version of the Soviet one , the are Soviet jets painted in chink colour.

 

[PretenderSam]

Ah tiong land for veto power to prevent the UN from recognising Taiwan as independent. Taiwan does not have a seat in the UN because of the stupidity of Chiang Kai shek.

Of course Chiang is stupid. But he is only deemed stupid when compared to the few extremely
smart one of us here.

 

[Sideswipe]

sad to say. the biggest 汉奸 were Mao Zedong and the CCP.

The proof of this is that Japan announced defeat on 15 August 1945, but it was 1 October 1949 that the PRC was founded. During this four-year period, the KMT and the CPC waged a fierce civil war. Accordingly, the PRC’s claim that the PRC is a state created by defeating the invading Japanese army is factually incorrect. Also, the myth that CPC forces fought valiantly with the Japanese army during the Sino-Japanese War is untrue.

On the contrary, during the Sino-Japanese War, Mao Zedong concentrated his efforts on conspiring with the Japanese army to weaken the KMT forces. He planted communist spies such as Pan Hannian in the Japanese Foreign Ministry’s local agency Maison Iwai and sold KMT military intelligence obtained from the National Government in Chongqing through the KMT-CPC Cooperation to the Japanese at a high price, creating an environment in which it was easy for the Japanese military to deal blows to the KMT forces.

And that is not all.

Mao Zedong sent Communist spies to make direct contact with the Japanese army, even going as far as to propose a truce between the CPC forces and the Japanese army.

http://www.japanpolicyforum.jp/archives/diplomacy/pt20160517095311.html


PRC founder Mao Zedong should be with the likes of Shi Jintang and Wu Sangui as the biggest traitors / 汉奸 in Chinese history.

 

[Sideswipe]

Ah tiong land for veto power to prevent the UN from recognising Taiwan as independent. Taiwan does not have a seat in the UN because of the stupidity of Chiang Kai shek.

if the veto power is that powerful ? how did PRC enter the UN 1971 when ROC held the veto power ?

 

[Sideswipe]

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[Sideswipe]

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[Tony Tan]

J-16 only looks similar to Su-30 airframe. But even airframe is much stronger lighter than Russian, and able to take better vibration shock and G-forces than Russian.

Beside airframe, the engines are latest Chinese WS-10B performance exceeds Russian AL-31 which gives BLACK SMOKE at exhaust. Chinese engine last longer between repair times. Max 135kN Max take off weight 35 tons. max range 4000km. vs Russian 122.58kN 34.5 tons max range 3000km.

Chinese radar exceeds Russian by much advanced performance and later technologies.
Flight computers and electronics are also better than Russian Su-30

Missiles is the most important area, which Chinese have way better longer range and higher speed missiles. The latest I read about J-16 they are ditching the 30mm gun & 150 round ammo to carry more heavy missiles and fuel, emphasis on killing at longer distance instead of close. Chinese missile are so good today, their A-A missiles are world #1. E.g. PL-10e capable of REVERSED shooting meaning, over the shoulder firing, killing the target behind yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-30
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/歼-16

http://new.qq.com/omn/20180124/20180124A0WELD.html

歼16战斗力和苏30战斗力的区别在哪？歼16全面领先
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　　歼16战斗力和Su30战斗力的区别在哪？这是一个有意思的话题，由于苏-30有许多型号，笔者还是更愿意和我们国家的苏-30MKK和印度的苏-30MKI作比较。我国的首批苏-30MKK是2000年交付入列的，最后一个批次的苏-30MKK战机则是2004年交付。随着十几年的使用，大部分苏-30MKK使用寿命都接近晚期。除了我国高强度的使用以外，苏系战机本身使用寿命就只有2400个小时，所以为了弥补苏-30MKK退役留下的空缺，我国研制了歼-16用来替代老款的苏-30MKK。

　　对比苏-30MKK，歼-16的性能上的提升是巨大，甚至可以说在某些方面是有代差的。主要体现在歼-16的雷达使用的是我国自主研制的新型雷达，而印度的苏-30MKI则使用的是老式雷达。而这些年随着我国研发战机技术上的不断进步，眼光逐渐增高的我们对苏-30MKK的不满逐渐增多，主要是随着我国量产歼-11B后，大量新材料、新技术都在歼-11B上进行了实验和使用，特别是大量新式国产机载武器的使用，大大增加了歼-11B的战力。所以面对苏-30MKK最大的问题就是无法使用国产先进的武器设备，必须使用俄制相对落后的武器设备。而这一点对于战机来说尤为重要，机载武器就是战机作战的关键，光有新式武器无法装上战机使用无疑是十分尴尬的。

　　至于歼-16和苏-30除了雷达和机载武器上的区别，还有火控系统、机身材料、发动机等等。总体上看，随着我国科技实力的增强，在机载电子设备、机身复合材料以及航电架构设计等方面都领先俄方，所以具有后发优势的歼-16可以说在各方面都领先苏-30。而这种差距也是目前中俄两国科技实力的体现，更是两国综合国力的体现。


http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2017-12-25/doc-ifypxrpp3755856.shtml

歼16与苏30有何区别 换装新雷达新航发性能大幅提升
歼16与苏30有何区别 换装新雷达新航发性能大幅提升

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　歼-11和歼-16虽然同属“侧卫”家族，但两者存在一个明显区别，那就是歼-11是空优战斗机，歼-16是多用途战斗机。

歼-11战斗机


　　歼-11的原准机型是苏-27SK。1990年12月，我国与苏联达成了苏-27SK战斗机的购买协议，引进了这种先进战斗机。1996年12月，俄副总理波雷纳科夫访华，与中方正式签订了引进苏-27生产线的协议。这种由沈飞制造的苏-27就是歼-11。通过在生产中积累经验和摸透技术，沈飞又生产出航电大幅改进的歼-11B。

　　无论是原装苏-27SK、歼-11还是歼-11B，都缺乏对地攻击能力，也就是只能打打火箭弹，或者扔一下无制导的铁炸弹。和F-15C一样，这三种战斗机本质上还是空优战斗机，专门执行夺取制空权的空战任务。

苏-30MKK


　　“侧卫”是一种优秀的战斗机平台，具有载弹量大、航程远的突出优点，非常适合用来执行对地攻击任务。俄罗斯和我国对该机的下一步改进都集中于扩展该机的多用途能力上，于是就诞生了苏-30MKK/MKI和歼-16。

　　我国空军和海军航空兵从俄罗斯进口了近百架苏-30MKK/MK2，这种多用途战斗机使用了苏-27M战斗机的加强结构和高垂尾，增加了内油容量，机翼根部增加两个载重2吨的重载挂架，前起落架改为双轮结构，彻底解决了之前“侧卫”在0.7-0.9马赫之间过载被限制在7g的问题。

歼-16战斗机


　　苏-30MKK/MK2通过改进航电和武器系统具备了发射大量先进对地制导武器的能力，该机的装备使我国海空军的精确打击能力大幅提升。

　　歼-16是沈飞借鉴苏-30MKK的机体结构后自主研制的新一代多用途战斗机，基本可被视为国产化的第二代苏-30MKK。歼-16相对于苏-30MKK的主要改进在于：

　　1、以有源相控阵雷达为核心的全新架构的国产航电；

　　2、通过电子设备和复合材料零件上的减重，以及换装国产WS-10B发动机，提高推重比；

　　3、挂载多种新型国产武器。（作者署名：阿姆斯壮）

 

[Truth_Hurts]

if the veto power is that powerful ? how did PRC enter the UN 1971 when ROC held the veto power ?

The matter was bought forward to the UN general assembly. And it was passed that ROC be replaced with PRC. The yanks tried to give ROC a seat in the general assembly but CKS walked out as he wanted all or nothing n fucked himself n the fuckiens. But please note.. seldom do matters get refered to the general assembly as most are resolved by security council vote.

 

[Truth_Hurts]

Weather ANY land or people are considered independent or not is decided by the forces who fight and die for this status. Not important weather the world recognized or not. It is weather you have the control.

Especially when MAJOR POWER are concerned the rest of the world are not at all so big, e.g. Russia Annexed Crimea. What can UN or US do about? Dare Dotard says Crimea is not Puntin's Russia?

Any sovereignty is NEVER UP TO WORLD RECOGNITION, it is up to PHYSICAL CONTROL. Islamic State is another example. Stupid world can dream of their own imaginary state that already vanished such as Libya where no real government exist any more. Yet Google Map still want to show an imaginary country and flag on wikipedia. Fucking joke. This type of Childish Attitude make Pee Sai feels self-secure while actual security is only a good feeling illusion and physically not in existence.

If that is the case..even more ah tiong land should invade the fuckiens now...as majority will surrender to the commies. Ah tiongs must be cowards n incompe to not invade now n get it over with.

 

[syed putra]

Russians gone up to SU-35, which china and india will buy some.
So i think russian earning some propreitary income from china manufacturing the J-16, which is china version of su-30. Otherwise, they would not sell anything to china.