Advocacy groups exploiting bus drivers' case: Government

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SINGAPORE - The Government on Friday said that several advocacy groups and individuals pressing the case of two former SMRT bus drivers were exploiting the foreigners for their own political purposes.

"In the guise of protecting vulnerable foreign workers, the NGOs and individuals have in fact exploited them for their own political ends," said the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) and Ministry of Manpower (MOM) in a joint statement.

The strongly worded statement was in reply to a statement made by the groups earlier in the day. The groups comprised Maruah, Project X and Think Centre and six individuals.

In their statement, the groups said it was "not right" for the MHA to suggest that the claims of police abuse made by Chinese nationals He Junling, 32, and Liu Xiangying, 33, were baseless.

The MHA had said last Saturday that the drivers had ample opportunities to raise their complaints either during or after investigations. The pair, who were jailed for instigating other SMRT drivers to strike last November, claimed that they were slapped, punched and threatened in custody. Both have served their time and have been deported to China.

But on Friday, the advocacy groups and individuals rejected the Government's explanations.

The driver He also sent a typed statement written in Chinese to reject the points raised by the MHA. This was sent through Workfair Singapore, a civil society group.

Driver He explained in his letter that he was not familiar with the workings of government organisations here and was alone with neither the presence of a witness nor surveillance cameras when the alleged beatings took place. He did not foresee a "good outcome" from his reporting the matter and this was why he did not consider doing so.

Last Saturday, the MHA said that the two men retracted their allegations in further statements recorded in February and March. Driver He denied this in his letter.

He further said that on two occasions when he was approached by police officers in jail, he told them that he would not be pursuing the cases of alleged abuse. "However, this did not mean those things never happened... I have never retracted my accusations," he wrote.

The statement released by advocacy groups and individuals said: "The veracity of a claim should not be dismissed simply because of the timing in which the complaint was made."

It also called for the MHA to "reveal how the drivers' statements were contradictory".

"This incident still leaves many questions unanswered," it said.

In its statement last night, the MHA and MOM said the statements from the groups and He repeat allegations the Government has already answered.

They noted that the drivers did not raise their complaints with the police or the courts. He, in fact, withdrew his allegation and then contradicted himself.

"Nevertheless the Police Internal Affairs Office did investigate their claims and found them baseless. The Attorney-General's Chambers concurred with these findings."

Yet in repeating his claims on Friday, He did not give details, said the MHA/MOM statement.

"Either he makes a police report and substantiates his allegation with evidence or the allegations must be regarded as unfounded and spurious. He cannot have it both ways - casting a smear without having to offer any proof."

Turning to the non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and individuals, the Government said that they should have "facilitated a proper investigation of He's allegations, instead of hindering the investigation while continuing to cast aspersions on the integrity of the police."

The six individuals behind the statement are: ex-Internal Security Act detainees Teo Soh Lung and Wong Souk Yee, Dr Paul Tambyah, who is on the Singapore Democratic Party's Healthcare Advisory Panel, Dr Noorashikin Abdul Rahman, vice-president of migrant workers' rights group Transient Workers Count Too, Ms Jacqueline Tan from HealthServe, a non-profit organisation concerned with migrant health issues, and one Gao Daolin.

The statement they issued together with NGOs had questioned if MOM's processes and outcomes were "justice-oriented", and suggested that the MOM has adopted a "narrowly legalistic stance", dismissing claims it defines as non-statutory.

In their joint statement last night, the ministries said: "The NGOs and individuals also continue to repeat their reckless allegations about our labour laws, unions, and the Ministry of Manpower without any basis.

"Our tripartite system could not have worked for more than 40 years now if it had been based on oppression of workers and suppression of labour rights."
 
Exploiting?

Wait a minute.

Who was the ass hole(s) who allowed all these FTs to flood in, in the first place?

Isn't those ass holes the ones to be 'exploilting' the locals first before even such events can ever happen?
 
I don't know what the fuss is about. What's wrong with roughing up some foreigners who hardly rank high in the popularity stakes of sinkies in the first place?:rolleyes:

When Singapore was part of Malaysia, I got slapped around by the police for doing absolutely wrong. They also let the air out of my tires just for laughs.
 
When Singapore was part of Malaysia, I got slapped around by the police for doing absolutely wrong. They also let the air out of my tires just for laughs.

Bollocks. You weren't born yet.
 
If mom sleeping,SPF sleeping,ntuc sleeping,company CEO sleeping ....somebody
surely will come out to speak for them the ordinary workers.
 
how can garmen say like this?

beri irresponsible woh!

it's all about fighting for the same rights.
 
I don't know what the fuss is about. What's wrong with roughing up some foreigners who hardly rank high in the popularity stakes of sinkies in the first place?:rolleyes:

By this logic, there is nothing wrong with Aussies roughing up Sinkies who are studying/working/travelling in Oz or Americans roughing up Asiatics in USA or Europeans roughing up Muslims in Euroland.

All are entitled to basic human rights be they foreign or local. Only difference is if they are foreign and do not have the requisite work/tourist/business/study visa, they may be deported.
 
By this logic, there is nothing wrong with Aussies roughing up Sinkies who are studying/working/travelling in Oz or Americans roughing up Asiatics in USA or Europeans roughing up Muslims in Euroland.

If it keeps foreigners out of the country, I'm all for these sorts of measures. Concrete steps need to be taken in order to display the true extent of xenophobia.
 
If it keeps foreigners out of the country, I'm all for these sorts of measures. Concrete steps need to be taken in order to display the true extent of xenophobia.

There is a minimum of basic human decency we should respect. Otherwise we will be no different from animals.

any case it is government policies that are the root cause of the problem, so anger should be directed primarily at the government
 
Yes. Basic human decency is for human. The level also depend on how 'human' these people are.

what government policies you talking about regarding this SMRT case?


There is a minimum of basic human decency we should respect. Otherwise we will be no different from animals.

any case it is government policies that are the root cause of the problem, so anger should be directed primarily at the government
 
I don't know what the fuss is about. What's wrong with roughing up some foreigners who hardly rank high in the popularity stakes of sinkies in the first place?:rolleyes:

When Singapore was part of Malaysia, I got slapped around by the police for doing absolutely wrong. They also let the air out of my tires just for laughs.

wah u so old ah grandpa?
 
Yes. Basic human decency is for human. The level also depend on how 'human' these people are.

what government policies you talking about regarding this SMRT case?

The policy of importing large number of low skilled foreigners to replace locals based on wage differential alone
 
The policy of importing large number of low skilled foreigners to replace locals based on wage differential alone

The only reason why the govt has imported foreign workers is because they a willing to take on the jobs that Singaporeans refuse to do.
 
The only reason why the govt has imported foreign workers is because they a willing to take on the jobs that Singaporeans refuse to do.

The only reason why the govt has imported foreign workers is because they are willing to take on the jobs which are too lowly paid for Singaporeans to match the ever rising cost of living in Singapore because the corporates need to make more money to pay their Directors and CEO more bonuses.
 
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That is why I really dont like SDP,,nothing but a bunch of left wing bleeding heart liberal fuckwits,,they follow the welfare liberalism bull shit that has fuck up the west and now want to screw us up,,,I see all these advocacy groups fighting for FT workers,,how come there is no sight and no sound for Singaporean workers?
 
The PAP govt preaches against exploitation. Wow, the hypocrisy is truly out of this world.
 
Turning to the non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and individuals, the Government said that they should have "facilitated a proper investigation of He's allegations, instead of hindering the investigation while continuing to cast aspersions on the integrity of the police."

Does the government ever listen? It doesn't unless pressure is brought on it. Look at the A*Star American engineer case. If not for the pressure from the US politicians, the case would have been closed. Now the SPF, State Coroner and the PAP government have to answer to questions raised.

Instead of dismissing the questions and casting aspersions on the NGOs and individuals, the SPF and PAP government can just answer those questions or conduct a public inquiry. The PAP government doesn't want the Chinese government to intervene, thus it wants to shut it down asap.

The six individuals behind the statement are: ex-Internal Security Act detainees Teo Soh Lung and Wong Souk Yee, Dr Paul Tambyah, who is on the Singapore Democratic Party's Healthcare Advisory Panel, Dr Noorashikin Abdul Rahman, vice-president of migrant workers' rights group Transient Workers Count Too, Ms Jacqueline Tan from HealthServe, a non-profit organisation concerned with migrant health issues, and one Gao Daolin.

Just because some of the individuals are activists and opposition politicians does not make their concerns any less valid. Instead of fighting them, just answer the questions raised. That's how democracy works. It is time the PAP get on with the times. Be transparent and answer the questions.
The statement they issued together with NGOs had questioned if MOM's processes and outcomes were "justice-oriented", and suggested that the MOM has adopted a "narrowly legalistic stance", dismissing claims it defines as non-statutory.

In their joint statement last night, the ministries said: "The NGOs and individuals also continue to repeat their reckless allegations about our labour laws, unions, and the Ministry of Manpower without any basis.

The government can keep harping that those questions are without basis. But the reality is that those concerns raise serious questions that the SPF should answer with greater openness. Why can't they answer those questions instead of just dismissing them and send veiled threats against those who raise the concerns?

"Our tripartite system could not have worked for more than 40 years now if it had been based on oppression of workers and suppression of labour rights."

That's baloney. Time to wake up, PAP. They know that the trade unions here have no credibility. They serve the interests of the PAP and not the workers. That's why the median take-home income of sinkee is $1700 in the 6th most expensive city to live in. So much for the unions looking after the interests of workers.
What have the unions being doing for sinkee worker as the PAP government floods the country cheap foreign PMET labour? Nothing. NTUC management is saddled with many PAP politicians (what do they contribute?) bidding their time and earning 5-figure salaries while waiting to have another shot at elected office.

Sinkapore tripartitie system 'worked' only because of the strong arms of the government. We don't have a true tripartite system like the Japanese and Germans.
 
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