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The Pakistani Navy has prevented an Indian submarine from sneaking into its waters, a spokesman has reported. The ship was detected and forced to retreat, he said.
The Navy released purported footage of the intercepted submarine, shown moving with its periscopes over the water surface.

The statement said the Navy didn’t engage the submarine, but was proud of its success in detecting it despite India’s large investment in modern submarine technology.
This great feat is a testament of the Pakistan Navy's superior skills. The Navy will keep defending Pakistan's naval border. The force has the capability to respond to any aggression.
The Pakistani Navy said the interception of the submarine was the second one since 2016.
The incident comes a week after a major flare-up between India and Pakistan, decades-old regional rivals. India triggered the escalation by using warplanes to attack a suspected terrorist camp in Pakistani territory, retaliating for an earlier attack on its troops. Pakistan responded with a demonstration of force the next day, conducting attacks on targets in the Indian-controlled part of the disputed region of Kashmir. In the ensuing dogfight, India lost one fighter jet and claims to have shot down one of Pakistan’s.
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巴基斯坦拦截一艘印度潜艇 逼其浮出水面后驱离(图)

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巴铁海军拦截印度潜艇 逼其浮出水面后驱离

导语:报道称,这是巴基斯坦海军自2016年以来第二次发现印度潜艇试图进入巴基斯坦海域。分析称,巴基斯坦海军探测出一艘拥有现代先进技术的印度潜艇,这对印度海军来说是一场失败。
据据《黎明报》报道,巴基斯坦海军发言人表示,巴海军周二发觉一艘印度潜艇试图进入巴方水域。随后巴基斯坦海军成功阻止了这艘来袭潜艇。
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巴基斯坦海军发言人发表声明说:“巴基斯坦海军利用其专业技能发现了印度潜艇,成功阻止其进入巴基斯坦海域。”报道称,这是巴基斯坦海军自2016年以来第二次发现印度潜艇试图进入巴基斯坦海域。
声明表示,巴基斯坦海军探测出一艘拥有现代先进技术的印度潜艇,这对印度海军来说是一场失败。
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巴基斯坦媒体的报道
巴基斯坦海军发言人说,考虑到印度政府的和平倡议,巴基斯坦海军并没有攻击这艘倒霉的印度潜艇。声明中还表示,希望印度从这起事件中吸取教训,印度也应努力实现和平。
声明称,“这一伟大的壮举证明了巴基斯坦海军的高超技能。巴基斯坦海军将继续保卫巴基斯坦海上边界,我们的部队有能力应对任何侵略。”
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印度海军的基洛级潜艇(资料图)
巴基斯坦《黎明报》认为,这是印度对巴基斯坦的最新挑衅。根据巴基斯坦发布的一段视频显示,当地时间3月4日晚上八点,巴基斯坦海军的反潜直升机发现了一艘潜伏的印度潜艇,并成功的逼其上浮并最终将其驱离了巴基斯坦海域。


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Pakistani Iron and Navy intercepts Indian submarines and forces them to surface and drive away

Lead: The report said that this is the second time since the Pakistan Navy discovered that Indian submarines are trying to enter the Pakistani waters. According to the analysis, the Pakistani navy has detected an Indian submarine with modern advanced technology, which is a failure for the Indian Navy.

According to the "Dawn" report, a Pakistani naval spokesman said that the Pakistani navy found on Tuesday that an Indian submarine attempted to enter the Palestinian waters. The Pakistani Navy then successfully blocked the incoming submarine.

A Pakistani Navy spokesperson said in a statement: "The Pakistani Navy has used its expertise to discover Indian submarines and successfully prevented it from entering Pakistani waters." The report said that this is the second time the Pakistani Navy has discovered that Indian submarines have attempted to enter Pakistani waters since 2016.

The statement said that the Pakistani navy has detected an Indian submarine with modern advanced technology, which is a failure for the Indian Navy.

Report by the Pakistani media

A Pakistani Navy spokesman said that the Pakistani Navy did not attack the unlucky Indian submarine in consideration of the Indian government’s peace initiative. The statement also stated that he hopes that India will learn from this incident and that India should also strive to achieve peace.

The statement said, "This great feat proves the superior skills of the Pakistani Navy. The Pakistani Navy will continue to defend the Pakistani maritime boundary and our troops will be able to cope with any aggression."

Kilo-class submarine of the Indian Navy (data map)

Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper believes that this is India’s latest provocation against Pakistan. According to a video released by Pakistan, at 8:00 pm local time on March 4, the Pakistani Navy’s anti-submarine helicopter discovered a lurking Indian submarine and successfully forced it to rise and eventually drove it off the Pakistani waters.
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The Indian Navy's third Scorpene-class submarine 'Karanj' at a launch ceremony in Mumbai last year. Pakistan said Tuesday it had stopped an Indian sub from entering its territorial waters. (Photo: AFP/Punit Paranjpe)

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KARACHI: Pakistan has stopped an Indian submarine from entering its waters, the navy said Tuesday (Mar 5), as tensions continue to run high between the nuclear-armed foes.
The development came days after a rare aerial dogfight between India and Pakistan over the disputed territory of Kashmir ignited fears of an all-out conflict, with world powers rushing to urge restraint.


"The Pakistan navy stopped an Indian submarine from entering our territorial waters," a naval spokesman said in a statement.
READ: India shoots down Pakistani drone: Reports
READ: US wants to know if Pakistan used US-built F-16 jets to down Indian warplane
He said "the Indian submarine was not targeted in line with the government's policy of maintaining peace".


It was the first such incident since 2016, when Pakistan said it had "pushed" an Indian submarine away from Pakistani waters.
The spokesman did not give further details, including when or where the submarine was detected. It was also not clear if they meant the 12 nautical mile (22km) territorial waters limit or the broader 200 nautical mile (370km) exclusive economic zone.
The navy also released what it said was video of the submarine, with the grainy black and white footage showing only what appeared to be a periscope above water. The timestamp on the video clip shows it began at 8.35pm on Monday.
There was no immediate comment from Indian officials.
In recent days the nuclear-armed Asian countries have come closer to conflict than in years, after a suicide bombing in Indian-administered Kashmir killed 40 Indian paramilitaries.
A militant group based in Pakistan claimed responsibility for the Feb 14 blast, and 12 days later Indian jets bombed what New Delhi called a terrorist training camp deep inside Pakistan.
READ: India vs Pakistan: A history of conflict over Kashmir
READ: Pakistan airspace fully reopened, says aviation authority
Pakistan has denied any damage or casualties, and independent reporting has shown that the strikes hit a heavily forested area with little in the way of infrastructure nearby. Residents have said just one person was injured.
The next day Pakistani aircraft entered Indian airspace and the two nations' jets engaged in aerial dogfights, with at least one Indian aircraft shot down and its pilot captured by Pakistan.
The pilot was handed back to India last Friday in what Pakistani Prime Minister Imran Khan called a "peace gesture".
Both sides also claimed a second plane had been shot down, but they have disputed whose plane it was and what happened to the pilot.
Pakistani and Indian soldiers have continued to fire artillery and mortars over the Line of Control, the de-facto border dividing Kashmir, in the days since, killing several civilians on both sides.
Unverified reports in Indian media Monday said that a Pakistani military drone which strayed over the border had been shot down.
Kashmir has been divided between India and Pakistan since the end of British colonial rule in 1947. Both claim the Himalayan territory in full and have fought two wars over it.
 

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印度潜艇欲偷袭,不料被巴铁识破驱走,巴铁:特别感谢这大国相助

2019-03-05 22:46 中国 /印度 /海军

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众所周知,最近印巴打得是非常火闹,就在巴铁空军驾驶着枭龙战机打掉印度的米格-21战机的时候,不可思议的是,印度的航母借着大雾悄然出海了。其实它的去向大家也明白,肯定就是奔着巴基斯坦军港去的。果然不出所料,最近巴基斯坦媒体发布报道,印度海军的一艘潜艇在巴基斯坦海军的逼迫下,被迫上浮。巴方发言人表示,3月4日,本国海军成功的阻止了一艘印度潜艇的进入巴基斯坦的领海,挫败了印度想通过海底入侵军港的阴谋。甚至还讽刺到,巴基斯坦的海军成功的击退了具备“现代化技术”的印度海军潜艇,这对于印度来说又被人家狠狠的抽了一巴掌。

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算上这次,这已经是三年来第二次逼退印度海军的阴谋了。巴基斯坦按照国际上的规定,划定12海里为领海,专属经济区可达29万平方公里,未经巴基斯坦允许,擅自进入者,视为侵犯。而巴铁海军发言人也特别强调,他们是利用的是专业的“反潜技术和装备”,成功的阻止了印军潜艇的阴谋,说到这里,海军发言人更是得意洋洋,特别的对多年的“老朋友”的支持和援助表示感谢。

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据有关专家分析认为,印度海军自造的歼敌者号虽然已经经过了测试,但是仍然不具备出海作战的能力。而目前租借着俄罗斯的阿库拉级攻击型核潜艇担任战务值班任务。主力潜艇只是10艘俄制的基洛级和4艘德国造的209型潜艇。但是德国造的潜艇距离现在时间太长,已经老弱不堪了,更别提作战了。所以专家认为,此次出动的潜艇极有可能是俄制的基洛级潜艇。

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巴铁海军发言人表示,虽然巴基斯坦只有5艘老旧的法国造潜艇,而舰艇的作战能力也比较弱,但是在“老朋友”的帮助下,巴铁在水下建设现代化的固体探测和反潜网络,如今,已经有能力阻止任何外来敌军的入侵,保卫巴基斯坦的蓝色海疆。据介绍,巴基斯坦海军在2009-2013年共接收了中国造船厂的4艘F-2P导弹护卫舰,还有6架直-9EC型反潜直升机,这些武器完全可以保护巴国的经济区的反潜作战任务。

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巴国媒体报道,自从巴基斯坦主动的释放飞行员后,印度并没有感激巴铁,相反却又是制造多起紧张的局势,先是对铁境内的哨所和村庄进行炮击,造成5人遇难。其次,印度还出动了苏-30战机,击落一架巴基斯坦的军用无人机。如今又动用潜艇企图逼近巴国领海,偷袭军港,这是印度在为大战做准备,不得不防。返回搜狐,查看更多

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The Indian submarine wants to sneak attack, but it was unfortunately driven away by the Pakistani Railway. Pakistani Railway: I am especially grateful to the big country for helping.
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As we all know, the recent India-Pakistan fight is very lively. When the Pakistani Railway Air Force drove the Dragon fighters to destroy the MiG-21 fighters in India, it was incredible that the Indian aircraft carriers quietly went out into the sea by heavy fog. In fact, it goes to everyone to understand that it must be going to the Pakistani military port. As expected, the Pakistani media recently reported that a submarine of the Indian Navy was forced to rise under the pressure of the Pakistani Navy. A Pakistani spokesperson said that on March 4, his navy successfully prevented an Indian submarine from entering Pakistan's territorial waters, defeating India's plot to invade the military port through the seabed. It is even ironic that the Pakistani navy has successfully repelled the Indian Navy submarine with "modern technology", which has been slap in the face of India.

Counting this time, this is the second time in three years to retreat from the Indian Navy. In accordance with international regulations, Pakistan has designated 12 nautical miles as the territorial sea. The exclusive economic zone can reach 290,000 square kilometers. Those who enter without permission from Pakistan are considered to be infringing. The Pakistani Railway Navy spokesperson also emphasized that they are using professional "anti-submarine technology and equipment" to successfully prevent the conspiracy of the Indian submarine. When it comes to this, the Navy spokesperson is more proud, especially for many years. Thanks to the support and assistance of the "old friend".

According to the analysis of relevant experts, although the Indian Navy’s self-made enemy has been tested, it still does not have the ability to go to sea. At present, the Russian Akula-class attack-type nuclear submarine is rented as a combat duty task. The main submarine is only 10 Russian-made Kilo-class and 4 German-made 209 submarines. But the submarine made in Germany is too long now, and it is already weak, not to mention combat. Therefore, experts believe that the submarine that was dispatched this time is most likely a Russian-made Kilo-class submarine.

A spokesman for the Pakistani Railway said that although Pakistan has only five old French submarines and the combat capability of the ships is relatively weak, with the help of “old friends”, the Pakistani Railway has built a modern solid detection and anti-submarine under water. The Internet, nowadays, has the ability to stop the invasion of any foreign enemy and defend the blue seas of Pakistan. According to reports, the Pakistan Navy received four F-2P missile frigates from China's shipyards in 2009-2013, and six straight-9EC anti-submarine helicopters, which can completely protect the anti-submarine warfare missions in the economic zone of Pakistan. .

The Pakistani media reported that since Pakistan’s initiative to release pilots, India has not been grateful to the Pakistani railway. On the contrary, it has created a number of tense situations. First, shelling the posts and villages in the iron territory, causing five people to die. Second, India also dispatched a Su-30 fighter to shoot down a Pakistani military drone. Nowadays, the submarine is attempting to approach the Palestinian territorial waters and attack the military port. This is India’s preparation for the war and it has to be guarded. Go back to Sohu and see more
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Jialat now Singapore also launch subs-is it covered by CECA also-like SIA how!
 

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APNN claimed that they shot down a Pak F-16. Unlike the much-publicised downing of their Mig 21 Bison, there s no pic no footage of the demise of the F-16 or its pilot.
Bullshit propaganda!
 

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APNN claimed that they shot down a Pak F-16. Unlike the much-publicised downing of their Mig 21 Bison, there s no pic no footage of the demise of the F-16 or its pilot.
Bullshit propaganda!


Typical ABNN crap. If they told truth than I worry!
 

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So Chinese supplied anti-submarine helicopter 直-9EC反潜直升机 kicked ABNN Modi's ass!

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巴基斯坦疑用中国直9直升机将印度潜艇逼出水面驱离

巴基斯坦疑用中国直9直升机将印度潜艇逼出水面驱离



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据巴基斯坦媒体报道,3月4日晚上20时35分,印度海军一艘潜艇在准备进入巴基斯坦海域时被巴海军的反潜直升机发现,随后将其逼出了水面,最终成功驱离。
一名巴基斯坦海军发言人在声明中表示:“巴基斯坦海军运用其专业技能,成功阻止了这艘潜艇进入巴基斯坦水域。”印度海军就巴基斯坦海军声称发现印度潜艇一事发表声明,指责伊斯兰堡“沉迷于虚假宣传和散布错误信息”。随后,巴基斯坦海军直接公布了视频,彻底打得印度没有话说!
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图片:被发现的在潜望镜状态下航行的印度潜艇。
虽然巴基斯坦海军并没有公布印度潜艇的型号,但是普遍认为是印度海军的“基洛”级或“鱿鱼”级常规动力潜艇。
而相对于对印度潜艇的猜测,对于巴基斯坦海军的功臣——那架反潜直升机,很多军事专家都认为是中国出口给巴基斯坦的直-9EC舰载反潜直升机。
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图片:巴基斯坦海军装备的中国产直-9EC反潜直升机。
我们首先来看这次事件发生的海域。根据巴基斯坦海军公布的坐标看,是在俾路支省海岸以南的海域。
我们知道,巴基斯坦的领海区域并不大,如果是出动固定翼反潜机的话,巴基斯坦海军最先进的反潜机是2012年接收的美制P-3C反潜巡逻机。
但是从巴基斯坦的报道中明确,发现目标的是一架反潜直升机,那么美国的P-3C反潜机就没有能够立功了!
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图片:巴基斯坦海军的美制P-3C反潜巡逻机在这起事件中没有发挥作用,也可以少给美国口实。
巴基斯坦海军目前的主力反潜直升机是中国出口的直-9EC舰载反潜直升机,主要装备在巴基斯坦海军的从中国购买的F-22P导弹护卫舰上。
第一批直-9EC反潜直升机是2009年11月出口给巴基斯坦,并在巴海军中服役的。这种直升机装备有对海搜索雷达、低频吊放声呐、雷达警告接收机和多普勒导航系统等先进设备,并可挂装反潜鱼雷。
2010年11月,巴基斯坦海军又接收了第二批4架直-9EC反潜直升机。
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图片:巴基斯坦海军直-9EC反潜直升机。
让我们回到这次事件中。
由于直-9EC反潜直升机主要部署在F-22P护卫舰上,那么很可能在附近有一艘这样的护卫舰存在。
F-22P导弹护卫舰也是中国专门为巴基斯坦海军建造的3000吨级导弹护卫舰,拥有比较完善的防空、反舰、反潜作战能力。从反潜作战能力看,该舰拥有1台德国阿特拉斯电子的ASO-94/95中频主/被动声纳(工作频率6~9MHz),可以发现较远距离上的潜艇水下声信号。
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图片:很可能在这次海上遭遇战的附近有一艘巴基斯坦F-22P导弹护卫舰。
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图片:搭载在F-22P护卫舰上的直-9EC反潜直升机。
由于,印巴冲突后印度海军大举出海,并关闭应答装置,对巴基斯坦海岸具有明显的敌视行为,因此巴基斯坦海军最近也是神经高度紧张。
作为巴基斯坦海军最先进的导弹护卫舰,F-22P型舰自然而然要担当起守护海疆的职责。这样的话,发现印度潜艇就可能有两种可能:
一种是由导弹护卫舰上的声呐系统在远距离上发现水下目标,然后再起飞直-9EC反潜直升机进行搜索和驱潜;
还有一种可能就是这架直-9EC直升机被放出去进行巡逻飞行,结果通过声呐浮标探测,亦或者是直接目视发现了这艘在潜望镜深度航行的印度潜艇。
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动图:巴基斯坦直升机拍摄的印度潜艇在潜望镜深度航行的画面。
无论是哪种可能性,中国直-9EC直升机发现的印度潜艇肯定是实锤了!
如果在实战中,往往就可以投放深水炸弹或者是反潜鱼雷了。但是,正如巴基斯坦海军发言人说的:“考虑到巴基斯坦的和平政策,印度潜艇没有成为袭击目标。”
那么,直-9EC可能在潜艇周围投放了声呐浮标,使用声呐信号叩击潜艇,让其知难而退。在这种情况下,印度潜艇只能够是浮出水面,以和平的姿态退出了这个海域。
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图片:外媒猜测这次在巴基斯坦直升机面前丢脸的是印度最新型“鱿鱼”级潜艇。
这已经是自2016年以来巴基斯坦海军第二次发现印度潜艇试图进入巴基斯坦海域。
印巴海上冲突中,潜艇部队往往是一支卓越的杀手锏。在印巴战争中,巴基斯坦海军潜艇就曾经将一艘印度护卫舰干掉,而印度海军也曾经击沉过一艘巴基斯坦的潜艇,可见印度洋下的争斗一直没有停下来。
不管如何,在这次事件中,中国直-9EC反潜直升机以及F-22P导弹护卫舰确实给巴基斯坦海军长脸了!(作者:虹摄库尔斯克)
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图片:发射反潜鱼雷的直-9舰载直升机。



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巴铁披露拦截印度潜艇细节:本可轻松将其击沉(图)

巴铁披露拦截印度潜艇细节:本可轻松将其击沉(图)



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巴铁海军拦截印度潜艇 逼其浮出水面后驱离

[环球网军事报道]巴基斯坦《黎明报》网站在昨天(3月5日)在第一时间报道了该国海军宣布成功阻止一艘印度潜艇秘密潜入巴方水域的消息。随后这篇报道内容又有了更新,我们对比了前后的两次报道,发现增加了巴基斯坦海军的声明细节。一些细节很有含义。除了确认这是“印度海军的最新潜艇之一”,更有强悍的直白声明:“如果不是巴基斯坦的政策是在面对印度侵略时保持克制,并给和平获胜的机会,那么本可以很轻松的攻击这艘潜艇,并将其摧毁”。
首先,标题。从早前还是比较弱势的“阻止/阻挠”印度潜艇的企图(thwarts attempt),变成更直白的“挫败”印度潜艇的企图(foils attempt)
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巴媒公开视频截图。注意,巴媒只表示这个印度潜艇潜航画面才是现场实景。
第二,相比早前报道,公开了宣布这一消息的“巴基斯坦海军发言人”身份,为巴基斯坦海军公共关系部主任(the director general of Navy‘s public relations),虽然没有公开姓名,但是从巴基斯坦海军领导机构的组成架构看(如下图),这是一个级别相当高的职位,为巴基斯坦海军对外联系的最高负责人。这是巴基斯坦海军最具权威的官方声明。
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巴基斯坦海军领导机构框架图。
第三,而更新后的消息中,巴基斯坦海军确认这艘印度潜艇是3月4日在巴方水域(Pakistan‘s maritime zone)被发现并被定位。并指出,随着不断监控其他印度海军部队,该潜艇一直处于监视之中。而且,探测到的潜艇是印度海军的最新潜艇之一。
“如果不是巴基斯坦的政策是在面对印度侵略时保持克制,并给和平获胜的机会,那么本可以很轻松的攻击这艘潜艇,并将其摧毁”。
这是巴方在发出更强硬警告的同时,实际上也公开宣布了这艘印方潜艇的身份。目前正在印度本土组装生产的法国“鲉鱼”级常规潜艇正符合“印度最新潜艇”的描述,当然也不排除是印度核潜艇的可能性。
就“鲉鱼”潜艇而言,到目前为止印度一共生产了三艘,分别是“卡尔瓦里”号(INS Kalvari ),“卡汉德里”号(INS Khanderi),以及“卡兰杰”号(INS Karanj)。目前只有首艇“卡尔瓦里”号确认服役,于2017年12月正式列装印度海军,但是2号艇“卡汉德里”和3号艇“卡兰杰”号分别在2017年1月和2018年1月下水,到现在仍处于海上试验阶段,预计将于2019年年内依次服役。
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巴媒公开视频中的“鲉鱼”潜艇画面。注意,巴媒没有说这个画面是现场的实景。
另据巴基斯坦《论坛快报》报道称,这次伟大成就证明了巴基斯坦海军的优越能力。从公开的监视画面看,印度潜艇是在潜望镜深度被拍摄到的,在空中反潜战装备的帮助下,巴基斯坦海军可在较长时间内跟踪它。
报道分析称,由于印巴两国没有交战,印度潜艇的任务可能是收集情报并渗透到巴基斯坦专属经济区内。如果它仍未被发现,那么在当前印巴公开敌对的情况下,它就可以对巴基斯坦海上目标采取行动。
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巴媒配图。巴方也没有公开侦测印度潜艇的反潜飞机型号以及类型。
由于(弹道弹道)核潜艇是印度海军的高价值资产,一般也不会执行此类渗透任务,因此更可能是“鲉鱼”级常规潜艇。据曾在巴基斯坦潜艇部队担任高级军官的退役将领艾哈迈德·塔斯内姆(Ahmed Tasneem)分析,这艘印度潜艇当时“可能耗尽了电池”。
当然,对于巴基斯坦海军的声明,印度方面予以否认,并称巴方描述是虚假的。印度政府消息人士还对这段视频的真实性提出了质疑,并对CNN说,如果试图进入巴基斯坦水域,他们的潜艇就不会浮出水面。CNN则表示,无法独立验证视频的真实性。


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Pakistan suspects that China's 9 helicopters will push Indian submarines out of the water


Pakistan suspects that China's 9 helicopters will push Indian submarines out of the water



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According to Pakistani media reports, at 20:35 pm on March 4, a submarine of the Indian Navy was discovered by the Pakistani Navy's anti-submarine helicopter when it was preparing to enter the Pakistani waters, and then it was forced out of the water and eventually successfully driven away.

A Pakistani naval spokesperson said in a statement: "The Pakistani navy has used its expertise to successfully prevent the submarine from entering Pakistani waters." The Indian Navy issued a statement on the Pakistani navy’s claim to discover Indian submarines, accusing Islamabad of being "addicted in false propaganda." And disseminate error messages." Subsequently, the Pakistani Navy directly announced the video, completely hitting India without saying anything!

Photo: The Indian submarine that was discovered sailing under the periscope.

Although the Pakistan Navy did not announce the model of the Indian submarine, it is generally considered to be the Indian Navy's "Kilo" or "Squid" class conventional power submarine.

Relative to the speculation on Indian submarines, many military experts believe that the Pakistani Navy's hero, the anti-submarine helicopter, is a direct-9EC carrier-based anti-submarine helicopter that China exports to Pakistan.

Photo: China-made direct-9EC anti-submarine helicopter equipped by the Pakistan Navy.

Let us first look at the sea area where this incident occurred. According to the coordinates published by the Pakistan Navy, it is in the waters south of the coast of Balochistan.

We know that Pakistan's territorial waters are not large. If it is a fixed-wing anti-submarine aircraft, the Pakistani Navy's most advanced anti-submarine aircraft is the US-made P-3C anti-submarine patrol aircraft received in 2012.

However, it is clear from the Pakistani report that the target is an anti-submarine helicopter, so the US P-3C anti-submarine aircraft has not been able to make a contribution!

Photo: The US Navy’s US-made P-3C anti-submarine patrol aircraft did not play a role in this incident, and it could also be given less to the United States.

The current main anti-submarine helicopter of the Pakistan Navy is a direct-ECEC anti-submarine helicopter exported from China, mainly equipped with the F-22P missile frigate purchased by the Pakistan Navy from China.

The first batch of straight-9EC anti-submarine helicopters were exported to Pakistan in November 2009 and served in the Pakistani Navy. The helicopter is equipped with advanced equipment such as sea search radar, low frequency hoisting sonar, radar warning receiver and Doppler navigation system, and can be equipped with anti-submarine torpedoes.

In November 2010, the Pakistan Navy received the second batch of four straight-9EC anti-submarine helicopters.

Photo: Pakistan Navy Straight-9EC anti-submarine helicopter.

Let us return to this incident.

Since the straight-9EC anti-submarine helicopter is mainly deployed on the F-22P frigate, it is likely that there is one such frigate nearby.

The F-22P missile frigate is also a 3,000-ton missile frigate built by China specifically for the Pakistani Navy. It has relatively complete air defense, anti-ship and anti-submarine warfare capabilities. From the perspective of anti-submarine warfare capability, the ship has an ASO-94/95 IF main/passive sonar (working frequency 6~9MHz) from Atlas Electronics of Germany, which can find underwater acoustic signals of submarines at a long distance.

Photo: It is very likely that there is a Pakistan F-22P missile frigate near the sea encounter.

Photo: Straight-9EC anti-submarine helicopter mounted on the F-22P frigate.

Because the Indian Navy has made a big move to the sea after the conflict between India and Pakistan and closed the response device, it has obvious hostile behavior against the Pakistani coast. Therefore, the Pakistani Navy has recently been highly nervous.

As the most advanced missile frigate of the Pakistan Navy, the F-22P is naturally responsible for guarding the sea. In this case, it is possible to find two possibilities for Indian submarines:

One is to find the underwater target from a long distance by the sonar system on the missile frigate, and then take off the straight-9EC anti-submarine helicopter to search and drive the dive;

Another possibility is that the straight-9EC helicopter was released for patrol flight, and the result was discovered by sonar buoys or by direct visual inspection of the Indian submarine deep in the periscope.

Moving picture: The Indian submarine filmed by the Pakistani helicopter in the depth of the periscope.

Whatever the possibility, the Indian submarine discovered by the China Zhi-9EC helicopter is definitely a real hammer!

If you are in actual combat, you can often launch deep-water bombs or anti-submarine torpedoes. However, as the Pakistan Navy spokesperson said: "In consideration of Pakistan's peace policy, Indian submarines have not been targeted."

Then, the straight-9EC may put a sonar buoy around the submarine, and use the sonar signal to slam the submarine to make it difficult to retreat. In this case, the Indian submarine can only emerge from the surface and withdraw from the sea in a peaceful manner.

Photo: Foreign media speculate that this time in front of the Pakistani helicopter is the latest Indian "squid" class submarine.

This is the second time since 2016 that the Pakistani Navy has discovered that Indian submarines are trying to enter the Pakistani waters.

In the maritime conflict between India and Pakistan, the submarine force is often an excellent killer. In the India-Pakistan war, the Pakistani navy submarine once killed an Indian frigate, and the Indian navy has also sunk a Pakistani submarine, showing that the battle under the Indian Ocean has not stopped.

In any case, in this incident, the Chinese Zhi-9EC anti-submarine helicopter and the F-22P missile frigate did indeed face the Pakistani Navy! (Author: Rainbow photo Kursk)

Photo: A straight-9 carrier helicopter that launched an anti-submarine torpedo.




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Pakistani Railway disclosed the details of intercepting Indian submarines: it could be easily sunk (Figure)


Pakistani Railway disclosed the details of intercepting Indian submarines: it could be easily sunk (Figure)



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Pakistani Iron and Navy intercepts Indian submarines and forces them to surface and drive away


[Global Network Military Report] Pakistan's "Dawn" website reported on the first day (March 5) that the country's navy announced the successful arrest of an Indian submarine secretly sneaked into the Palestinian waters. Later, this report was updated. We compared the two reports before and after, and found that the details of the Pakistan Navy's statement were added. Some details have a lot of meaning. In addition to confirming that this is "one of the latest submarines of the Indian Navy", there is a strong and straightforward statement: "If it is not Pakistan’s policy of restraining in the face of Indian aggression and giving peace a chance to win, then it would have been easy. Attack this submarine and destroy it."

First of all, the title. From a relatively weak "thwarts attempt" to "block/block" Indian submarines, it became a more straightforward attempt to "frustrate" Indian submarines.

Pakistan media public video screenshots. Note that the Pakistani media only indicates that the Indian submarine snorkeling scene is the live scene.

Second, compared with earlier reports, the “Pakistan Navy Spokesperson” who announced the news was the director general of Navy’s public relations, although there is no public name, but The composition of the Pakistan Navy's governing body (see the picture below) is a relatively high-level position and the highest responsible for the Pakistan Navy's external contacts. This is the most authoritative official statement of the Pakistan Navy.

The framework chart of the Pakistan Navy’s governing body.

Third, in the updated news, the Pakistani Navy confirmed that the Indian submarine was discovered and located in the Pakistani waters (Pakistan's maritime zone) on March 4. And pointed out that with the constant monitoring of other Indian naval forces, the submarine has been under surveillance. Moreover, the detected submarine is one of the latest submarines of the Indian Navy.

"If it was not for Pakistan's policy to maintain restraint in the face of Indian aggression and give peace a chance to win, then it would have been easy to attack the submarine and destroy it."

This is the fact that the Pakistani side has publicly announced the identity of the Indian submarine while issuing a tougher warning. The French "salmon" class conventional submarine currently being assembled and produced in India is in line with the description of "the latest submarine in India", and certainly does not rule out the possibility of Indian nuclear submarines.

As far as the "salmon" submarine is concerned, India has produced a total of three ships, namely INS Kalvari, INS Khanderi, and Calange. (INS Karanj). At present, only the first boat "Kalwari" is confirmed to serve, and the Indian Navy was officially installed in December 2017, but the No. 2 boat "Kahandri" and the No. 3 boat "Kalanger" were respectively in January 2017. Launched in January 2018, it is still in the sea trial phase and is expected to be in service in 2019.

The "Squid" submarine screen in the public video of Pakistan. Note that the Pakistani media did not say that this picture is the real scene.

According to Pakistan's "Forum Express" report, this great achievement proves the superior ability of the Pakistani navy. From the public surveillance screen, the Indian submarine was photographed at the depth of the periscope. With the help of aerial anti-submarine warfare equipment, the Pakistani Navy can track it for a long time.

According to the report, as India and Pakistan have not engaged in war, the mission of Indian submarines may be to collect intelligence and penetrate into the exclusive economic zone of Pakistan. If it is still undetected, it can take action against Pakistani maritime targets in the current case of India and Pakistan being openly hostile.

Pakistan media with maps. The Pakistani side has not publicly detected the type and type of anti-submarine aircraft of Indian submarines.

Since the (ballistic ballistic) nuclear submarine is a high-value asset of the Indian Navy, it is generally not subject to such infiltration tasks and is therefore more likely to be a "salmon" class conventional submarine. According to Ahmed Tasneem, a retired general who had served as a senior officer in the Pakistani submarine force, the Indian submarine was "probably running out of batteries."

Of course, the Indian side denied the statement of the Pakistani Navy and said that the Palestinian description was false. Indian government sources also questioned the authenticity of the video and told CNN that if they tried to enter Pakistani waters, their submarines would not surface. CNN said that the authenticity of the video could not be independently verified.


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Tony Tan

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Just 1 Torpedo and that's end of it! Fucking ABNN Modi will have to hold 100+ navy funerals. Once the location is tracked like this, no escape!
 

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Tua Kee this time! ABNN Modi's Navy will Pee Pants and become sleepless! Chinese website published online the top secret Submarine Detection Signature Data against Indian Navy Sub. They said the whole secret document is 20,000 pages, and they published some to prove that they have this document, hence Pakistan can very easily detect IAF Subs, with Chinese supplied detection systems and software. Check-Mate! Modi Game Over! No more secret! Gotcha!

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印度潜艇为何轻易被巴铁发现 2万页机密资料早已外泄

印度潜艇为何轻易被巴铁发现 2万页机密资料早已外泄



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图注:巴媒公开视频截图
持续数日的印度冲突又有了最新的发展,巴基斯坦海军新闻发言人说,当地时间3月4日晚,巴基斯坦海军运用专业技能,成功阻止了一艘印度潜艇进入巴基斯坦水域。考虑到政府的和平倡议,巴基斯坦海军并没有瞄准这艘印度潜艇,只是将其驱离而已。印度海军的这次鲁莽玩火行为是非常危险的,幸亏巴方保持了克制,否则一旦交火,双方陷入全面战争的可能性将会大大增加。
巴基斯坦媒体称被驱离的印度潜艇为“基洛”级,但有人从视频截图中的桅杆布局和数量上分析,则认为是“鲉鱼”级。“鲉鱼”级潜艇是法国DCNS公司研制的常规动力潜艇,其水下静音性能非常突出,号称是全世界最安静的常规动力潜艇。为何会这么轻易就被巴基斯坦海军发现呢?原因有很多,其中有一条不容忽视的原因,就是印度海军的“鲉鱼”级潜艇曾经遭遇过严重的泄密事件,其水下信号特征可能已经被巴基斯坦海军彻底掌握了,换句话说,这款潜艇可能已经毫无秘密可言。
事情由来是这样的,2016年8月26日,澳大利亚媒体爆出的一条消息震惊全球,法国DCNS公司为印度海军建造的“鲉鱼”级常规动力潜艇有超过两万页的机密文件资料遭到泄露。遭到泄露的两万多页机密文件详细描述了“鲉鱼”级潜艇的隐身能力以及电磁和红外数据,还包括其搜集情报时所使用的声呐频率,包括提醒艇员在潜艇的哪些特定舱室可以安全地通话,以避免被敌方发现或跟踪。这些泄密文件的内容主要涉及“鲉鱼”级潜艇的通讯系统、导航系统和包括鱼雷发射装置在内的武器系统等。一些文件上甚至还印有“印度‘鲉鱼’级潜艇机密”的字样,上面详细记录了该级潜艇在水下潜航/水面航行时不同航速下的噪声水平、螺旋桨推进器的噪声特征、磁场强度、红外特征、使用潜望镜时的航速与其他条件限制、电子战系统的电磁频谱范围、鱼雷发射装置的具体规格和有效使用寿命等。
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图注:2015年4月6日,印度海军首艘“鲉鱼”级潜艇举行下水试航仪式
迄今为止,围绕到底是谁泄密的这一问题,法国DCNS公司和印度海军还在相互指责。但为时已晚,泄密事件对印度海军的负面影响是非常巨大的,潜艇泄密事件发生后不久,印度海军一位退役将领就曾表示:“泄密的所有技术细节都与潜艇的声学特征和噪音类型相关。这些技术细节被公开后,周边国家的海军就能轻易探测到印度潜艇的信号。”
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图注:部分泄密文件中的配图
所以,如果这次印度被发现的潜艇真是“鲉鱼”号,很有可能跟两年前的泄密事件息息相关。对于将“鲉鱼”潜艇视为中流砥柱的印度海军部队,未来将会陷入严重的尴尬局面。(作者署名:兵工科技)



Why are Indian submarines easily discovered by Pakistani Railway? 20,000 pages of confidential information have already been leaked.
Why are Indian submarines easily discovered by Pakistani Railway? 20,000 pages of confidential information have already been leaked.
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Legend: Pakistan media public video screenshots

The Indian conflict, which lasted for several days, has the latest development. A Pakistani naval spokesperson said that on the evening of March 4, local time, the Pakistani navy used professional skills to successfully stop an Indian submarine from entering Pakistani waters. Considering the government's peace initiative, the Pakistani Navy did not aim at the Indian submarine, but only drove it away. The reckless playing of the Indian Navy is very dangerous. Fortunately, the Palestinians have exercised restraint. Otherwise, once the exchange of fire, the possibility of a full-scale war between the two sides will increase greatly.

The Pakistani media claimed that the Indian submarine that was driven away was the “Kilo” class, but some people analyzed it from the mast layout and quantity in the video screenshots. The "Squid" class submarine is a conventional power submarine developed by the French DCNS company. Its underwater mute performance is outstanding, claiming to be the quietest conventional power submarine in the world. Why is it so easily discovered by the Pakistani Navy? There are many reasons for this. One of the reasons that cannot be ignored is that the Indian Navy’s “squid” class submarine has experienced serious leaks, and its underwater signal characteristics may have been thoroughly mastered by the Pakistani Navy. In other words, this The submarine may have no secrets at all.

The origin of this is the case. On August 26, 2016, a news broke out by the Australian media shocked the world. The French squid-class conventional submarine built by DCNS for the Indian Navy had more than 20,000 pages of confidential documents. Give way. The leaked 20,000-page confidential document details the stealth capabilities and electromagnetic and infrared data of the Squid-class submarine, as well as the sonar frequency used to gather intelligence, including which specific compartments the submarine is reminded of. You can talk safely to avoid being discovered or tracked by the enemy. The contents of these leaked documents mainly relate to the communication system of the "salmon" class submarine, the navigation system and the weapon system including the torpedo launcher. Some documents even have the words "India 'Squid' class submarine secret" printed on it, detailing the noise level of the submarine at different speeds during underwater submarine/surface navigation, the noise characteristics of the propeller, and the magnetic field. Intensity, infrared characteristics, speed and other conditions when using a periscope, electromagnetic spectrum range of electronic warfare systems, specific specifications and effective service life of torpedo launchers.

Legend: On April 6, 2015, the Indian Navy’s first “Squid” class submarine held a launching trial

So far, the French DCNS company and the Indian Navy are still accusing each other of the question of who is leaking. But it is too late, the negative impact of the leak on the Indian Navy is very huge. Shortly after the submarine leak, a retired general of the Indian Navy said: "All technical details of the leak are related to the acoustic characteristics and noise of the submarine. Type related. After these technical details are made public, the navy of neighboring countries can easily detect the signals of Indian submarines."

Legend: Maps in some leaked documents

Therefore, if the submarine discovered in India is really a "squid", it is likely to be closely related to the leak incident two years ago. For the Indian naval forces that regard the "squid" submarine as the mainstay, the future will be in a serious embarrassing situation. (Author's signature: Ordnance Technology)
 

whoami

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APNN claimed that they shot down a Pak F-16. Unlike the much-publicised downing of their Mig 21 Bison, there s no pic no footage of the demise of the F-16 or its pilot.
Bullshit propaganda!

All propaganda. Election around the corner for apnn.
 

3_M

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Modi needs to ramp up tension but not to the point of full blown out war to arrest his falling rating at home.

He needs to portray himself as the great defender of shit land. Hence India millitary cannot be seen as losing the conflict . For as long as his millitary did not lose badly like in 1962, his govt can continue to spin tales like killing 300 terrorists , downing Pak F16 etc.

Expect tense situation to prevail till after their GE .
 
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