俄罗斯武力回归克里米亚。证明武力解放台湾，囊中取物，把握十足，&#

[我戳你个妈]

在乌克兰问题，面对俄罗斯，尽管懦夫美国装腔作势，咿呀鬼叫。终究证明它国穷志短，毫无底气，四肢无力，胆却智穷。不但无力制止，连干涉也乏力失败透顶。啥子承诺保证，啥子超级强国，啥子银样蜡枪头，简直丢脸透顶。

完全无法掩盖美国的软弱，疲乏，衰败，扮演任何角色都已经有心无力。一个倒毙，尸体腐烂的前超级强国，显著呈现在克里米亚风云当中。

俄罗斯可以这样便宜的回归了克里米亚，中国就更可以百般的解放台湾。确实太缺乏有效的阻力。特别是来自美国的阻力。

即使日本，欧盟，联合国，都是没敢出手制止的。吱声的声量都非常微不足道，贫弱乏力。勉强应酬一下而已。

克里米亚并非一个模式，并非一个效仿对象。但是它绝对是最有力最有效的证明。最显著的说明。最实践的比较与衡量标准。它也是最标志性的划时代的历史标点。它的历史意义巨大。比911更具有重大意义。因为它是世界列强实力的优劣轮替，角色代换的历史标记。

是重大分水岭。

经过这个分水岭以后，考量两岸回归解放的观点当然起基础性的改变。全盘的衡量与定位都要改换尺码了。

经过克里米亚的验证以后，绝对可以省缺许多不必要的争辩与疑虑。这不单只是在海峡两岸方面，而是全球的广泛局势课题里面，全球资源配置的实力衡量方面。

Simply putting it, as Russia had unificated Cremia over from Ukrian, at a tiny negligible price, China can definitely unify Taiwan via one of the many available approach. By a sure force in particular and meet very insignificant resistance from USA in particular, and whole globe of powers and organisation such as UN NATO etc inclusive.

The event is a monumental mark in history. A solid evidence to eliminate sceptical considerations and doubts. It applies not only to China Taiwan unification issue, but also to a broad base of global strategic perspective.

 

[我戳你个妈]

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Pyongyang can do a Cremia on Seoul.

Malaysia can do a Cremia on Singapore.

So what?

 

[Neptune]

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But Taiwanese and Hongkies doesn't want reunification with China and they showed their displeasure with mass protests so do not act like Stalin and decide for others.

 

[我戳你个妈]

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But Taiwanese and Hongkies doesn't want reunification with China and they showed their displeasure with mass protests so do not act like Stalin and decide for others.

This isn't something about what you love or hate or want. This is about weather who can do it by force and who is there to stop it.

Cry or protest ha ha ha Ukrainians are doing so. But so what? Can they stop or change anything?

 

[InformationSociety]

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This isn't something about what you love or hate or want. This is about weather who can do it by force and who is there to stop it.

Cry or protest ha ha ha Ukrainians are doing so. But so what? Can they stop or change anything?

Fight to the end or leave unless u want to be slaves. That's the only way. The worst kind of people i hate are those using force.

 

[我戳你个妈]

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You can fight and cry rape all you want, but the Bayi cock is still inside your ass fucking, while there is absolutely no help available from anyone. How about that.

Fight to the end or leave unless u want to be slaves. That's the only way. The worst kind of people i hate are those using force.

 

[Neptune]

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You can fight and cry rape all you want, but the Bayi cock is still inside your ass fucking, while there is absolutely no help available from anyone. How about that.

If they do nothing about it and feeling helpless, then their fate is sealed simple as that.

 

[Sideswipe]

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China-Taiwan relations are improving. China won't reunify Taiwan by force. Taiwan won't declare independence. they are growing closer but political relations remain deadlocked. think they will maintain status quo indefinitely.

 

[yellowarse]

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China-Taiwan relations are improving. China won't reunify Taiwan by force. Taiwan won't declare independence. they are growing closer but political relations remain deadlocked. think they will maintain status quo indefinitely.

Largely agree. China will never take Taiwan by force though it's not difficult to do so, because the political and economic fallout will not be worth it. The recent brouhaha over its air defence zone gave it a foretaste of international reaction to forceful unilateral moves. And it's not interested in restarting the Cold War.

But the status quo won't be indefinite. There will come a time when the economies of Taiwan and the mainland are so integrated, and when the CCP is confident enough to give Taiwan the high degree of autonomy it wants, that it is highly plausible the Taiwanese will agree to reunify under the 'one country, two systems' model. This could take place within the next generation.

 

[Ass_Loong_Son]

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Largely agree. China will never take Taiwan by force though it's not difficult to do so, because the political and economic fallout will not be worth it. The recent brouhaha over its air defence zone gave it a foretaste of international reaction to forceful unilateral moves. And it's not interested in restarting the Cold War.

But the status quo won't be indefinite. There will come a time when the economies of Taiwan and the mainland are so integrated, and when the CCP is confident enough to give Taiwan the high degree of autonomy it wants, that it is highly plausible the Taiwanese will agree to reunify under the 'one country, two systems' model. This could take place within the next generation.

As far as Sovereignty is concerned. No peace will work ever. All countries all severe and break until the family units level, stay hostile and focus o difference.

When given with freedom and safety, people not dependent on each other sufficiently, even family units also will break apart.

Only bloody wars had created countries and congragation, as history showed.

If the dream of peaceful reunification could come true,the reversing process is even more true. That is wwithout forces and bloody deaths, countries break up and falling apart.

Singapore e.g. falls apart first into GRC boundaries, then to neighborhood levels then to bock level then to housing unit level and then to individual personal level. No body wants to be tied to or made to agree with anybody.

 

[Sideswipe]

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Largely agree. China will never take Taiwan by force though it's not difficult to do so, because the political and economic fallout will not be worth it. The recent brouhaha over its air defence zone gave it a foretaste of international reaction to forceful unilateral moves. And it's not interested in restarting the Cold War.

But the status quo won't be indefinite. There will come a time when the economies of Taiwan and the mainland are so integrated, and when the CCP is confident enough to give Taiwan the high degree of autonomy it wants, that it is highly plausible the Taiwanese will agree to reunify under the 'one country, two systems' model. This could take place within the next generation.

close economic ties won't reunify them. majority of Taiwanese wouldn't want to give up their functioning independence to whatever high degree of autonomy under China. the US would encourage Taiwan to remain apart from China. there are many obstacles to overcame in their reunification.

it seems that the CCP and KMT have strong desires to solve the political issue. ( giving Taiwan increased international space and CCP recognizing ROC -this is not possible ) it is interesting to see how they develop and change their political position of "one China with different interpretations" to a convergence of their one China concept. think they can't resolve this difficult issue and to have an outcome acceptable for both sides under the existing conditions. in the end, they have to accept the ambiguous status quo to continue interacting with the other side.

 

[我戳你个妈]

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As far as Sovereignty is concerned. No peace will work ever. All countries all severe and break until the family units level, stay hostile and focus o difference.

When given with freedom and safety, people not dependent on each other sufficiently, even family units also will break apart.

Only bloody wars had created countries and congragation, as history showed.

If the dream of peaceful reunification could come true,the reversing process is even more true. That is wwithout forces and bloody deaths, countries break up and falling apart.

Singapore e.g. falls apart first into GRC boundaries, then to neighborhood levels then to bock level then to housing unit level and then to individual personal level. No body wants to be tied to or made to agree with anybody.

当然是血腥武力决定一切。

我们可以看香港的所谓和平回归来学习这个大失败。

历史上香港主权是清朝因为【鸦片战争】失败而被英国割据的。当然是血腥武力的鸦片战争。不是和平移交香港送礼给英国。

所以香港在血腥武力的移交英国的一个世纪里面，整整一百年，被英国安稳统治。没有香港人造反，想要抗议统治。想要回归清朝。期间呢唯一的统治中断呢，当然是第二次世界大战，被日本人占领了香港。这个当然是一样是血腥武力的战争，英国没有和平移交香港给日本，日本也没有和平回归香港给英国。都是流血死人厮杀。统治当然稳定。

自从邓小平，【和平回归】香港以后。全中国最高调造反的地区就是香港了。百万人游行，天天反对中央政府。常年没有平息。从1997【和平回归】到今天，全中国没有任何地方像香港人这样造反。

这当然就是缺乏了血腥武力的战争所带来的结果。没有别的理由。

我敢保证。如果邓小平通过武力【鸦片战争-续集】回归香港。就完全不一样了。

如果有通过【鸦片战争-续集】血腥武力回归，无论解放军死多少人，香港人死多少人，英国军死多少人。都是死越多就将来越稳定统治香港的。要够看头的，死20万人，在香港岛最显著的地方立战争纪念碑，展览被击毁的英国战舰，战机，战车，军人的骨灰。这样你看还会有百万香港人造反游行么？


Today's HK is THE most rebellious anti-Beijing rule territory in entire PRC, it had been so, since 1997 non-stop until today, all due to the so called Peaceful Reunification of HK, which is done completely lack of a bloody war. And The Opium War was the only reason for HK to be handed over to UK's rule, and after such bloodshed and deaths, HK people fell on smooth UN-challenged rule by London for a hundred years. There is no million HK people marching streets agains London govt. The only disruption of London's rule on HK people was Japanese invasion in WW2, which certainly is a much bigger bloody war than the Opium War.

All Beijing needed to have a stable smooth rule on HK is the Opium War Part II, with plenty blood and deaths. Make it big and monumental, and with that there will be no million HK people marching streets against Beijing's rule ever.

 

[我戳你个妈]

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俄罗斯武力回归克里米亚。证明武力解放台湾，囊中取物，把握十足，代价渺小，时机成熟。

For a negligible price, Taiwan can be confidently reunificated right now. No body have the muscle nor balls to stop it.

 

[3_M]

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close economic ties won't reunify them. majority of Taiwanese wouldn't want to give up their functioning independence to whatever high degree of autonomy under China. the US would encourage Taiwan to remain apart from China. there are many obstacles to overcame in their reunification.

While close economic tie won't unify both sides, at least it provide the disincentive for adventurism by pushing the independence agenda for now.

In 2012 President Ma popularity was very low and yet he still managed to beat DPP candidate. Analysts believe it was due to DPP failure to win over the economic voters as they fear it would jeopardize trade tie once pro-independence DPP came into power. CCP won't deal with DPP govt for as long as the latter don't drop their pro-indpendent stance.

This pro-independent clause in the DPP constitution is becoming a liability to their goal of recapturing power and there has been called within the party to drop this clause but the voice at the moment is still too weak. DPP at the moment see no urgent need to reform factoring the widespread discontent with the incumbent and they are banking on this to win the presidential race without changing anything.

Wake-up call will happen after PE2016 if the party still failed to win. By then call for reform within the party will grow stronger than now and DPP will be forced to drop their independent goal in order to build ties with CCP. Once DPP open up to CCP, KMT will no longer enjoy the monopoly of cross strait tie as Beijing can choose between DPP and KMT. It will force KMT to stop dragging their feet on many issues like political negotiation, peace treaty etc. It will no longer be a contest of who is more anti China but who is more china friendly. Whose policies is more open to trade and political ties with mainland.

it seems that the CCP and KMT have strong desires to solve the political issue. ( giving Taiwan increased international space and CCP recognizing ROC -this is not possible ) it is interesting to see how they develop and change their political position of "one China with different interpretations" to a convergence of their one China concept. think they can't resolve this difficult issue and to have an outcome acceptable for both sides under the existing conditions. in the end, they have to accept the ambiguous status quo to continue interacting with the other side.

CCP had the strong desire to solve political issue but KMT is unwilling due to pressure from DPP and USA. The dilemma for CCP is how much international space they want to give since it easy to give but difficult to take back. Their nightmare will happen if DPP comes into power and how are they suppose to take back what they give to the previous KMT govt? Issue will be much easier if DPP drop their independent clause as Beijing can afford to give more without worrying a pro independent govt coming into power one day.

 

[Ass_Loong_Son]

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While close economic tie won't unify both side…

Sovereignty being the business, meaning it is just only purely about who is in control of the territory. Nothing else should be in the picture frame.

Not the domestic politics of
KMT DPP not money nor lives. These are no count at all. It is about only who have the ability to take and hold the control and who have the ability to stop this.

When Japanese too control of SG in WW2, EVERY Singaporean was against that, but no one from anywhere could prevent that.

 

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Live: EU, Ukraine sign deal as Putin formally gets Crimea
The European Union slapped travel bans and asset freezes on 12 more people, closing in on President Vladimir Putin's inner circle

A Crimean man makes the victory sign as he celebrates in Simferopol's Lenin Square on March 16, 2014 after exit polls showed that about 93 percent of voters in Ukraine's Crimea region supported union with Russia. AFP
by Rohini Chatterji 21 mins ago
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6.55 pm: EU, Ukraine sign deal as Putin formally gets Crimea

President Vladimir Putin completed his annexation of Crimea on Friday, signing the Black Sea peninsula into Russia just as Ukraine itself sealed a deal pulling the country closer into Europe's orbit.

Putin said he saw no need to further retaliate against U.S. sanctions, a newly conciliatory tone apparently aiming to contain one of the worst crises in Russia's relations with the West since the Cold War. His spokesman, however, later kept the Kremlin's warning open that it could consider various options.

At Ukrainian bases on the peninsula, troops hesitated, besieged by Russian forces and awaiting orders. Russia claimed some had already switched sides and agreed to join the Russian military. Friday had been the deadline for Ukrainian troops to leave Crimea, join the Russian military or demobilize.

Russia rushed the annexation of the strategic peninsula after Sunday's hastily called referendum in which its residents overwhelmingly backed leaving Ukraine and joining Russia. Ukraine and the West have rejected the vote, held two weeks after Russian troops had seized control of Crimea. The US and EU have responded to the crisis by slapping sanctions on Russia.

Putin hailed the incorporation of Crimea into Russia as a "remarkable event" before he signed the parliament bills into law Friday in the Kremlin. He also ordered fireworks in Moscow and Crimea.

At nearly the same time in a ceremony in Brussels, Ukraine's new prime minister pulled his nation closer to Europe by signing a political association agreement with the European Union. It was the same deal that touched off Ukraine's political crisis, the deal that President Viktor Yanukovych rejected in November, igniting the months of protests that drove him from office and sent him fleeing to Russia.

"Russia decided to actually impose a new post-Cold War order and revise the results of the Second World War,"....