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Serious 400,000 Taiwanese Hakka and Aborigines massacred by Japanese

Sideswipe

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Depend what you mean by bad. He is not bad for Taiwanese people who wants advocate for independence but he embarrassed the Chinese race many time. He is the very few people in this world that are proud enough to throw their Chinese pride away. He claims that Asia needed Japan to free Asia from European imperialist, some people will actually agree with this but most still don't agree with his interpretation of comfort women, nanking massacre. He basically claims any crimes committed by the Japanese were no less than the Chinese people.

He likes to impress the Japanese like a old Chinese slave dog.

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you are same. look down on everything Chinese. also old Chinese slave dog. China is always lousy this and that in your opinion.

Japan's military strength was overwhelmingly superior to China during ww2. but China held out for 8 years against the Japanese invasion. remarkable achievement ? no ? China was lousy ?
 

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you are same. look down on everything Chinese. also old Chinese slave dog. China is always lousy this and that in your opinion.

Japan's military strength was overwhelmingly superior to China during ww2. but China held out for 8 years against the Japanese invasion. remarkable achievement ? no ? China was lousy ?

I dislike Chinese history especially starting from the 19th century to know. Chinese always fight eachother, even today KMT and PRC are enemies.

Chinese have many slave traitors.

But what I dislike most is how weak and small their empires/dynasty were, for a country that have the world largest population is very unimpressive
 

retrenched

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I dislike Chinese history especially starting from the 19th century to know. Chinese always fight eachother, even today KMT and PRC are enemies.

Chinese have many slave traitors.

But what I dislike most is how weak and small their empires/dynasty were, for a country that have the world largest population is very unimpressive
haha makes me remember the book "the ugly chinaman" which i read long ago...the author states that chinese MUST fight and exploit each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Yang
 

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I dislike Chinese history especially starting from the 19th century to know. Chinese always fight eachother, even today KMT and PRC are enemies.

Chinese have many slave traitors.

But what I dislike most is how weak and small their empires/dynasty were, for a country that have the world largest population is very unimpressive


China is huge enough. there were many great empires that stand out in history but they were eventually vanquished, their countries today are just a fraction size of their former empires. China was the source of many innovations, scientific discoveries and inventions. almost every Chinese dynasty at its peak was among the most powerful, advanced and prosperous civilization in the world at that time. China has a rich history and civilization to be proud of.
 

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China is huge enough. there were many great empires that stand out in history but they were eventually vanquished, their countries today are just a fraction size of their former empires. China was the source of many innovations, scientific discoveries and inventions. almost every Chinese dynasty at its peak was among the most powerful, advanced and prosperous civilization in the world at that time. China has a rich history and civilization to be proud of.

Yes, I think China during ancient and medieval period was the best. The greatest was the Han dynasty, other ethnic Han descent dynasties are not strong but have a lot of inventions, innovations, discoveries, achievements of science and technology.

However China in the last 150 years were really rubbish and have really degraded.

I can't stand videos like these. It makes Chinese people look like a cheap and lazy race.

[video=youtube;6rY3yNf-W3c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rY3yNf-W3c[/video]
[video=youtube;lAqRbmr7BVA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAqRbmr7BVA[/video]
 

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Lee Kuan Yew is a confirmed Hakka because he said he was. As for Deng Xiaoping, he never claimed he was Hakka and even his daughter have no knowledge of herself being Hakka. She only speculated that she's a a descendant of Hakka but even if they did both have Hakka ancestry is clearly not significant and very little.

Anyway they are only leaders. They don't hold a candle to George Washington, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Timurlane, Qialong emperor, Stalin. Hitler and thousand others ect
They are far more impressive than any Hakka and Chinese leader.

BTW, Honkie is actually a derogatory term, and no native English-speaking person would want to apply the term on himself.

The Hakka phenomenon has become a cult. Henry Makow, a Jew who holds a PhD in English Literature, is even suggesting that they have contributed to the Hakkas' leadership qualities. (https://www.henrymakow.com/2015/11/hakkas-the-jews-of-asia.html)

It's true that Hakkas have never won anything for their leadership skills, unlike all the other "great leaders" on Honkie's nominations list - Adolf Hitler, 1939 Nobel Peace Prize nominee; Joseph Stalin, 1945 and 1948 Nobel Peace Prize nominee (twice!).

Maybe it's better to hold a candle than some Western trophies. The Nobel Prizes are a laughing stock. After Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, he donated the full 10 million Swedish kronor (about US$1.4 million) monetary award to charity. It was an effort to rescue his reputation because the award did him more damage than good.

Honkie, while you claim to be Han Chinese, you sound more like a bitter Manchu loser whose language's dying with their nomadic race assimilated, indistinguishable from Han Chinese. What are you, Honkie? Have there been many great men or women modern day who claimed to have your ancestry, or is your ancestry even worth mentioning?
 

HonkieSingie

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BTW, Honkie is actually a derogatory term, and no native English-speaking person would want to apply the term on himself.

The Hakka phenomenon has become a cult. Henry Makow, a Jew who holds a PhD in English Literature, is even suggesting that they have contributed to the Hakkas' leadership qualities. (https://www.henrymakow.com/2015/11/hakkas-the-jews-of-asia.html)

It's true that Hakkas have never won anything for their leadership skills, unlike all the other "great leaders" on Honkie's nominations list - Adolf Hitler, 1939 Nobel Peace Prize nominee; Joseph Stalin, 1945 and 1948 Nobel Peace Prize nominee (twice!).

Maybe it's better to hold a candle than some Western trophies. The Nobel Prizes are a laughing stock. After Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize, he donated the full 10 million Swedish kronor (about US$1.4 million) monetary award to charity. It was an effort to rescue his reputation because the award did him more damage than good.

Honkie, while you claim to be Han Chinese, you sound more like a bitter Manchu loser whose language's dying with their nomadic race assimilated, indistinguishable from Han Chinese. What are you, Honkie? Have there been many great men or women modern day who claimed to have your ancestry, or is your ancestry even worth mentioning?

China was the world richest countries in a very large time of history.
Chinese people in the past were more superior to the west in inventions, innovations, technology, knowledge, far more.

There are also many pictures, videos of women of other race who have married Chinese men.


However the main problem is China which is the cause of an predominant awful and nasty image for Asians. We all know that ever since the decline of the Qing dynasty there was Chinese cultural decline. It got worse when Chinese adopted western values such as communist, the Russians uncivilized and inferior behaviour before the 1990's are world famous and they were extremely dirty, crude, lacking morals. The Chinese morals, etiquette, cultural qualities decline thanks to the inferior leadership qualities in the 20th century.
 
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China was the world richest countries in a very large time of history.
Chinese people in the past were more superior to the west in inventions, innovations, technology, knowledge, far more.

There are also many pictures, videos of women of other race who have married Chinese men.

So what if chinks were once the richest or most advance in non-military science?

If your race is feeble and can't fight well, your wealth and tech will simply be passed over to the race that will conquer you.

The chinks lost most of their martial traditions and valour ever since the Warring States were over.
 

HonkieSingie

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So what if chinks were once the richest or most advance in non-military science?

If your race is feeble and can't fight well, your wealth and tech will simply be passed over to the race that will conquer you.

The chinks lost most of their martial traditions and valour ever since the Warring States were over.

Han dynasty was considered the strongest, most riches, advance back than and it conquered/ruled from Korea, Vietam, Central Asia but after that there was never another ethnic Han dynasty that reach to such great heights except for the Tang which was a mix of Han/Xianbei although the 1st class are ethnic Han the ruling class was a Han/Xianbei ancestry.

China is a world major player and is considered one of the world most powerful country. However parts of the Chinese wealth today is achieved through slave labour, fake products and everything "made in China ". Even though China today is very big country but the lands include basically Tibet, East Turkistan, Manchuria, Inner Mongolia and thanks to the Manchus that made it easy for Chinese to quickly recover those regions.


It's not the land size but the number of countries they conquered is way to few for a people who have the world largest population. Look at the Ottoman empire on the other hand, they conquered so many countries even though their territorial size is only 1/5 of China.
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Looks like avatar freaks,last thing they need is blue body paint,a nose like gazelles,a floating tree with magic wisps,and big Disney eyes to make the audience go ooohh ahhh and make it a blockbuster movie.
 

frenchbriefs

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So what if chinks were once the richest or most advance in non-military science?

If your race is feeble and can't fight well, your wealth and tech will simply be passed over to the race that will conquer you.

The chinks lost most of their martial traditions and valour ever since the Warring States were over.

Reared in the pleasure dome of abundance,in the rolling rice fields,with silk worms nipping at their whiskers,southern Chinese developed impressions of their land,cultured,erudite,soft and refined,fond of art as well as industry.southerners are said to be cunning and shrewd,industrious and scholarly,built as instruments for the improvement of culture, entrepreneurship, Industry and arts.our ancestors were not build for war.

That's why Tang dynasty was the greatest.our culture and language and architecture have greatly influenced the Japs and Koreans.if u notice their language resembles our southern dialects.
 

HonkieSingie

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Reared in the pleasure dome of abundance,in the rolling rice fields,with silk worms nipping at their whiskers,southern Chinese developed impressions of their land,cultured,erudite,soft and refined,fond of art as well as industry.southerners are said to be cunning and shrewd,industrious and scholarly,built as instruments for the improvement of culture, entrepreneurship, Industry and arts.our ancestors were not build for war.

That's why Tang dynasty was the greatest.our culture and language and architecture have greatly influenced the Japs and Koreans.if u notice their language resembles our southern dialects.

Tang dynasty culture was Han Chinese with very little to no Xianbei influence. Their language don't resemble annoying southern languages, they only have many similarity vocabulary. Also the Koreans and Japanese can make Asians proud with their 1st world country, top quality world products. They don't disgrace other Asians and are much respected by western countries.

Chinese communists need to learn morals from neighboring countries. You only need to type in " Chinese knockoffs " on youtube and hundreds of videos will pop out with results from 50,000 views up to 3 million views showing the Chinese are shameless people who will earn shameful money the ugly way. Only China does this and it ashames the image of Chinese people. The comments that most people leave are unpleasant and we have China to blame because other chinese regions/countries don't do this but yet China people still have the nerve to tell us we should identify all identify as " Chinese " ( as in being no different to China people ).

[video=youtube;TKRFGHo-s5U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKRFGHo-s5U[/video]
 
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Tang dynasty culture was Han Chinese with very little to no Xianbei influence. Their language don't resemble annoying southern languages, they only have many similarity vocabulary. Also the Koreans and Japanese can make Asians proud with their 1st world country, top quality world products. They don't disgrace other Asians and are much respected by western countries.

Chinese communists need to learn morals from neighboring countries. You only need to type in " Chinese knockoffs " on youtube and hundreds of videos will pop out with results from 50,000 views up to 3 million views showing the Chinese are shameless people who will earn shameful money the ugly way. Only China does this and it ashames the image of Chinese people. The comments that most people leave are unpleasant and we have China to blame because other chinese regions/countries don't do this but yet China people still have the nerve to tell us we should identify all identify as " Chinese " ( as in being no different to China people ).

[video=youtube;TKRFGHo-s5U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKRFGHo-s5U[/video]

I believe China is the future.....they may be copycats and clones at first,but after 2 decades of working hard and improving what they do,they have surpassed Singapore in many areas technologically and infrastructually by leaps and bounds.its about doing and doing until u become good at whatever u do....it's about becoming one with the bullet,it's about the essence of being.

Singapore on the other hand only believes in taking short cuts and buying and importing technology to make us seem first world,but we will never be first world.everything in Singapore is imported,our food,our trains,our military equipment,our software.and most of it is 2nd hand or subpar or cheaper better faster technology,enough to do the job but not the best.nothing is locally made,u can buy a Lamborghini but what's the point if u can't build them?
 

HonkieSingie

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I believe China is the future.....they may be copycats and clones at first,but after 2 decades of working hard and improving what they do,they have surpassed Singapore in many areas technologically and infrastructually by leaps and bounds.its about doing and doing until u become good at whatever u do....it's about becoming one with the bullet,it's about the essence of being.

Singapore on the other hand only believes in taking short cuts and buying and importing technology to make us seem first world,but we will never be first world.everything in Singapore is imported,our food,our trains,our military equipment,our software.and most of it is 2nd hand or subpar or cheaper better faster technology,enough to do the job but not the best.nothing is locally made,u can buy a Lamborghini but what's the point if u can't build them?

Copying is not the problem, many countries copy and made it far much better and more advance. China today generally just copy to fake it.

The perception people will have is that Chinese people are a cheap and low standard human beings while Japanese/ Koreans are 1st class humans. Singapore maybe famous for nothing but at least they don't produce fake and places such as Hong Kong and Taiwan are famous but also don't produce fake. China maybe famous but sell fake products today.

I mean how embarrassing if you happen to have Chinese friend from mainland China wearing some knockoff brands of nike or adidas. Any Chinese person who wears fake or knock-off brand clothes are not to be respected, they tarnish the morals and make Chinese people feel like 2nd class human beings with little dignity.


[video=youtube;sg_cLsV44Ls]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg_cLsV44Ls[/video]
 
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to identify as chinese, is to accept chinese culture and belief, not relate by bloodline. Technically there no pure chinese after 3000+ years of integration of different tribes within the central plains and later expansion toward the northern grasslands and push southern beyond Yangtze river basin。if a chinese adopted barbarian culture, he will be treated as a barbarian. Barbarian who adopted chinese culture, will be recognise as a Han Chinese. Chinese history textbook never see Mongols as chinese but they view the Turks, Southern Xiongnu, Xianbei, Xiang,Manchus as part of chinese culture.

as for Hakka who have great achievement, 薛岳(1896年12月27日-1998年5月3日),原名薛仰岳,字伯陵,中華民國陸軍一級上將,八年抗戰名將之一,广东韶关乐昌客家人,曾在抗日战争中取得多次对日作战胜利,被认为是“抗战中歼灭日军最多的中国将领”。

As for why chinese so weak, it as to do with emperors since Song Dynasty policy of 重文轻武。Tang poet 李白 carry a sword when he travel around tang dynasty. He was born in Kyrgyzstan because his ancestor was exile there. before Song, 士can carry sword, so most 读书人 then are not weakling. After Song, Ming emperor zhu yuanzhang who was a peasant, consolidate his power by further restricting 尚武精神。

Most chinese, even now, dont give a shit who their rulers as long their own interest are protected. A very good example is look at singapore, 70% want their flat value to be high with no regards to other issue.
 

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to identify as chinese, is to accept chinese culture and belief, not relate by bloodline. Technically there no pure chinese after 3000+ years of integration of different tribes within the central plains and later expansion toward the northern grasslands and push southern beyond Yangtze river basin。if a chinese adopted barbarian culture, he will be treated as a barbarian. Barbarian who adopted chinese culture, will be recognise as a Han Chinese. Chinese history textbook never see Mongols as chinese but they view the Turks, Southern Xiongnu, Xianbei, Xiang,Manchus as part of chinese culture.

as for Hakka who have great achievement, 薛岳(1896年12月27日-1998年5月3日),原名薛仰岳,字伯陵,中華民國陸軍一級上將,八年抗戰名將之一,广东韶关乐昌客家人,曾在抗日战争中取得多次对日作战胜利,被认为是“抗战中歼灭日军最多的中国将领”。

As for why chinese so weak, it as to do with emperors since Song Dynasty policy of 重文轻武。Tang poet 李白 carry a sword when he travel around tang dynasty. He was born in Kyrgyzstan because his ancestor was exile there. before Song, 士can carry sword, so most 读书人 then are not weakling. After Song, Ming emperor zhu yuanzhang who was a peasant, consolidate his power by further restricting 尚武精神。

Most chinese, even now, dont give a shit who their rulers as long their own interest are protected. A very good example is look at singapore, 70% want their flat value to be high with no regards to other issue.

You're absolutely wrong in everything. Han Chinese were always talking about bloodline aswell especially paternal descent. It's not only Han Chinese because you could easily say there are no pure race in every race or every ethnic grou[ in the world, you can't even name one. 3000 years it's incorrect, it around a 1800 years. The pure Han race concept started in the Han dynasty ( from 200 BC to 200 AD ) and every person was considered a pure Han but it's after the end of the Han dynasty and the nomadic invasions that terms "sinicized Han " started appearing more and more. The nomadic invaders they look similar to Chinese enough and can assimilate with the Han Chinese population without problem. Chinese were weak because they weren't united to begin with, they were always having so many internal conflicts themselves. India was the same, they have like thousands of different languages and sub-languages and have been fighting and discriminating one and another due to caste system. Another big problem was they weren't nomadic, if we look at medieval history most of the powerful and expansive empires were people who lived in nomadic lifestyle. Anyway the Han Chinese should have conquered Japan and Europe than it would have been payback.

As for this Hakka great achievement isn't really a great achievement maybe just some modern Chinese military achievement but isn't big of deal either and 99.99% wouldn't a give a shit, that includes me. There's really nothing that worth to brag about these exaggerations, it is small pride and really not worth that much on the international scale of history. You can easily say Vietnamese have a far more achievement since they defeated French and Americans while Hakka lost to French but looking at Vietnamese military history they were ones conquered by others. Not trying to put Hakka down but it's nowhere closer to the worth and as exaggeration that it deserves. Hakka people have no empire and it conquered basically nothing, they were just part of the modern Han Chinese military, never a separate one. Even if you combine Hakka with other influential Chinese military leaders of Wu Chinese and Mandarin speakers it's still garbage. Let's say if Hakka conquered Japan than we are talking about true achievements and it will also be payback for the Japanese who conquered and rule Hakka 50 years otherwise the Japanese can always still say " we f*cked your people " and you need massacre the Japanese for their massacre against Hakka. I'm sure you have have seen the military achievement of the Japanese empire, they conquered almost all the the pacific island countries, all of Southeast Asia and much of East Asian countries and controlled a massive portion of ocean that stretch within the territory of Russia and America. How many modern Asian empires could do this ? not even the ones from middle east except the Ottomans could have that it that time.

"Empire of Japan ruled over a land area spanning 7,400,000 square kilometres (2,857,000 sq mi), making it one of the largest maritime empires in history and one of the most powerful empires in modern history "
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This is not even including a massive portion of the pacific ocean which extended as far as Russia and America sphere control. Gotta give credit to the Japanese who dare challenge all these powerful modern western empire.

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The British empire is one of the two world largest empire in history along with Mongol empire.

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" Yes, the Japanese are evil but they are still a YELLOW ASIAN RACE. They are the same race as East Asians and the same race as Chinese doesn't matter if it's Teochew, Taishanese, Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka, Shanghainese or whatever "


Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking you guys to worship the Japanese and definitely not asking anyone to be like that slave dog like this Taiwanese Lee Teng Hui who give credits to the Japanese in everything and denying all it's war crimes and support Japanese against China.

We always see the negative side of the Japanese empire and it is mostly negative but look at also the positive side of the Japanese military achievements, they were the only Asian race that can fight against the western superpowers and the Japanese were the only Asian super power that time.

Let's be proud that there was a modern Asian empire kicking that were western butts everywhere.
 
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We should be proud of the Japanese military achievements despite the evil things they had done to Chinese because quite frankly nobody could have fended them off that time. Without the help of the Japanese empire's these European colonial powers wouldn't have weaken so much. Even the independence of India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia from european colonial powers are largely thanks to the Japanese who played a large role.


The Indonesian even welcomed the Japanese when they defeated the British and Dutch. The Indonesian spoke of legends that the Asian warrior would come and liberate Indonesians from the white men's rule ( and not only this, the Japanese did in fact enslaved the white men and white women aswell )

[video=youtube;ASgcWxOTiuk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASgcWxOTiuk[/video]
 
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