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So you trust a pseudo-articles as sources without academic source? is about as lame as Black people claiming how they created all the civilizations in the world and ruled the world -------> http://realhistoryww.com/


I have respect for you Hakka, we are both descendants of Han. But you Jews of Asia ? last time I checked Jews have won more than 200 science nobel prize with 150 world boxing champions. Hakka have 0 boxing world champions and 0 nobel prize winners. You can claim that. Exaggerated article and wikipedia that once claim you have signficant influence of world history is now changed to chinese history.

Deng Xiaoping never said he was Hakka. There's no knowledge, if you go to Baidu Chinese page they don't even list Deng as among the list of Hakka people.

Corazon Aquino, is only just a article rumor. He isn't listed as Hakka in neither Baidu or wikipedia.


Do you have Cantonese cultural hubs like Hong Kong, Macau. I mean if you're so damn superior don't you have the luck and privileged of Cantonese people. Why are you Hakka cities ranked only in the no.80 and no.90 among the wealthiest.



Yes Yes Yes..... Hakka genes make them formidable.

That's why Hakka people were ruled 50 years by Japanese in Taiwan

That's why Hakka were ruled 156 years by British in Hong Kong

That's why KMT of Wu Chinese ruled Taiwan 40 years and oppressed your Hakka people/language ( this include Hokkien people/language )

That's why Hakka escaped to Southern China from all the invasion, you were also ruled by Mongols and Manchus for 400 years, so what make you so special ?




Even your Taiping rebellion lasted for only 14 years , showing that you're not capable of creating a empire and really showing you're also just a piece of shit Southern Chinese with many limits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion





If you Hakka people can show you once created a Hakka empire that ruled from East Asia, Southeast Asia, Central Asia. Than yes you Hakka are superior otherwise I'm not impressed.

hahahahha. That's why I said you should stop spouting nonsense and check your facts before you speak and post, your post is all nonsense and full of crap.
Just to prove my point, you state in your posts "Corazon Aquino is only ..... He isn't listed as Hakka in neither Baidu or wikipedia." . You can even get a simple fact right. Corazon aquino is a FEMALE
and former president of phillipines. Hahahhah. huge faux pas. and this is just the beginning of your posts full of errors, shits and illogical arguments, you can even get simple facts like the sex correct, no point talking about dialects and race, nobel prizes etc hahhahahaha. ROTFLOL,
why talk about jews nobel prizes.the nobel prizes is for the english speaking world and major scientific publications in english. Do you know they do not consider most publications in other language??? that's why no russians and japanese discoveries published in native cyrillic or kanji were awarded as 99% of all japanese science are published in kanji!!!! go to tokyo universities and see for yourself. , If the Chinese were to create a seperate equivallent of nobel prize for scientific achievements published in Chinese, I am sure 90% of the awards would go to chinese. warped stupid logic. what about paper invention, fireworks, printing, seismograph, compass etc? all discovered by chinese in China. the jews nobel prizes were all mainly won overseas in USA NOT in israel . they were won using USA research funds and infrastucture. even the chinese physicists like samuel ting and yang CN won thier prizes in the 1950s with american collaboration and even then there were so few chinese research scoentists in USA then . By pro rata(hope you understand what this means), the Chinese impact would be greater than the jews!!!!!
The articles I cited was published by an amrican white professer of history in an american university citing facts, whereas you can only spout nonsense. try to do better please... do n't insult my and his intelligence. he is a caucasian /white professor of history and definitely knows more about chinese culture and history than a chinese like you . How shameful!!!! hahahahahah
http://digitalcommons.csbsju.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013&context=headwaters

Like I said don't post subjective or dubious "facts" which you cannot verify or referenced. If this is in the real world , all knowledgeable and respected scholars would give you a F(for fail or farkingly stupid) grade. you don't even know what is cross referencing and you want to talk about Nobel prizes??? Don't make my toe laugh.why talk about taiwan being ruled japanese is the fault of hakkas when 95% of the Taiwanese are hokkiens and likewise 90% of the Honkies are cantonese when HK was being ruled by the British. If that is the case , it actually reflects on the incompetencies and stupidities /cowardice of the Cantonese(in HK) and hokkiens(in Taiwan) stupid, NOT Hakkas. I really cannot fathom your logic but now knows why cantonese and hokkiens like you make poor politicians as you do not even possess simple logic and cannot present simple logical arguments. hahahhha
by the way this is not an empty boast. you can look up my past posts and all the long time forummers here know about my credubility and I hold at least 8 post grad qualifications and have travelled round the world and have billionaires and top politicians as acquaintances.
By inferences the China empire today is actually due to the collective work of the Hakkas esp Sun yat sen and Deng Xiao Ping. even the white author Mary S. Erbaugh acknowledged this fact and called it the "The Chinese Revolution as a Hakka Enterprise" . even she said the Hakkas were very formidable and another western historian even went as far as to say the Hakkas saved China!!!!!
This is not some fly by night newspaper article but an academic treatise by two independent white academics in USA(so definitely not biased). there are many more such articles about the Hakkas saving the china sovereignity in the library.
the cantonese and hokkiens on the other hand were sleeping or whoring away!!!!
so go eat your heart out,
Read these reference first as proof:
https://www.pdx.edu/intl/sites/www.pdx.edu.intl/files/Erbaugh Secret History of Hakkas CQ (2).pdf
http://digitalcommons.csbsju.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013&context=headwaters
as for the hokkiens and cantonese achievements??? what is there to boast. show me some independent academic from a western university praising the hokkiens or cantonese. I can't find any. because there is absolutely NOTHING great to boast or write about them. Nothing. Zilch.
until you can show me these proofs all your whining is just pathetic attempts of trying to promote the cantonese at a better light .
HK and Macau as a cultural hub??? please don't insult the mainland Chinese. Macau is world fanous as a casino and gambling money laundering hub festered with low class triads. what culture is there?
same for HK. nobody goes to HK to see their art musuems or plays. more like for decadent shopping and finding social escorts in club volvo. or bboss later. culture????hahhah unless you call triad members with crude language as cultured people. even thier so called high society people there are very crude, snobbish and lack class talking about money all the time and know nothing about world affairs. your posts about HK and Macau just show a frog in well mentality but it is a good joke. hahahah

why? because everybody knows the cantonese are know to be extremely selfish and only interested in money(that why HK end in british rule and Xi is screwing them and they cannot do anything as they are useless and selfish), the hokkiens are stupid and low class genes from fujian( LKY once told Deng indirectly why China would do far greater tahn singapore is because the hokkiens are of lower gene stock) . The Manchus are good at killing and smoking opium that why China was humilated by all the french, british, spanish and USA concessions in shanghai(go read your history). the shanghainese are greedy shylocks and not interested in patriotic pursuits. The manchus are known betrayers. ask how they end up being called manchuko and colonised by the Japanese. after years of humilation due to incompetencies of the manchus and shanghainese it takes Sun yat sen and Deng to salvage the chinese pride again. all these facts you conveneiently ignore or forget(maybe due to your puny brain). even the western academics are more patriotic and acknowledged this fact unlike traitors like you. hahahhahah
 
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hahahahha. That's why I said you should stop spouting nonsense and check your facts before you speak and post, your post is all nonsense and full of crap.
Just to prove my point, you state in your posts "Corazon Aquino is only ..... He isn't listed as Hakka in neither Baidu or wikipedia." . You can even get a simple fact right. Corazon aquino is a FEMALE
and former president of phillipines. Hahahhah. huge faux pas. and this is just the beginning of your posts full of errors, shits and illogical arguments, you can even get simple facts like the sex correct, no point talking about dialects and race, nobel prizes etc hahhahahaha. ROTFLOL,
why talk about jews nobel prizes.the nobel prizes is for the english speaking world and major scientific publications in english. Do you know they do not consider most publications in other language??? that's why no russians and japanese discoveries published in native cyrillic or kanji were awarded as 99% of all japanese science are published in kanji!!!! go to tokyo universities and see for yourself. , If the Chinese were to create a seperate equivallent of nobel prize for scientific achievements published in Chinese, I am sure 90% of the awards would go to chinese. warped stupid logic. what about paper invention, fireworks, printing, seismograph, compass etc? all discovered by chinese in China. the jews nobel prizes were all mainly won overseas in USA NOT in israel . they were won using USA research funds and infrastucture. even the chinese physicists like samuel ting and yang CN won thier prizes in the 1950s with american collaboration and even then there were so few chinese research scoentists in USA then . By pro rata(hope you understand what this means), the Chinese impact would be greater than the jews!!!!!
The articles I cited was published by an amrican white professer of history in an american university citing facts, whereas you can only spout nonsense. try to do better please... do n't insult my and his intelligence. he is a caucasian /white professor of history and definitely knows more about chinese culture and history than a chinese like you . How shameful!!!! hahahahahah
http://digitalcommons.csbsju.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013&context=headwaters

Like I said don't post subjective or dubious "facts" which you cannot verify or referenced. If this is in the real world , all knowledgeable and respected scholars would give you a F(for fail or farkingly stupid) grade. you don't even know what is cross referencing and you want to talk about Nobel prizes??? Don't make my toe laugh.why talk about taiwan being ruled japanese when 95% of the Taiwanese are hokkiens and likewise 90% of the Honkies are cantonese being ruled by the British. If that is the case , it reflects on the incompetencies of the Cantonese and hokkiens stupid, NOT Hakkas. I really cannot fathom your logic but now knows why cantonese and hokkiens like you make poor politicians as you do not even possess simple logic and cannot present simple logical arguments. hahahhha
by the way this is not an empty boast. you can look up my past posts and all the long time forummers here know about my credubility and I hold at least 8 post grad qualifications and have travelled round the world and have billionaires and top politicians as acquaintances.
By inferences the China empire today is actually due to the collective work of the Hakkas esp Sun yat sen and Deng Xiao Ping. even the white author Mary S. Erbaugh acknowledged this fact and called it the "The Chinese Revolution as a Hakka
Enterprise" .
Read this reference first:
https://www.pdx.edu/intl/sites/www.pdx.edu.intl/files/Erbaugh Secret History of Hakkas CQ (2).pdf
as for the hokkiens and cantonese achievements??? what is there to boast. show me some independent academic from a western university praising the hokkiens or cantonese. I can't find any.
until you can show me these proofs all your whining is just pathetic attempts of trying to promote the cantonese at a better light .

why? because everybody knows the cantonese are know to be extremely selfish and only interested in money(that why HK end in british rule), the hokkiens are stupid and low class genes from fujian( LKY once told Deng indirectly why China would do far greater tahn singapore is because the hokkiens are lower gene stock) . The Manchus are good at killing and smoking opium that why China was humilated y all the french, british, USA concessions in shanghai(go read your history). the shanghainese are greedy shylocks and not interested in patriotic pursuits. The manchus are known betrayers. ask how they end up being called manchuko and colonosed by the Japanese. all these facts you conveneiently ignore or forget(maybe due to your puny brain). hahahhahah



Hakka made up 25% of Taiwan in the past, you fought against the Japanese and lose, that's why you were ruled 50 years by them and that's why your Lee tung hei worships superior Japanese and claim they were much more advance than ethnic Chinese.

Hong Kong population is today 67% Cantonese in the past it was less than 40%. Hakka made up 15%

If we follow your stupid logic you can even say the Taiwan aborigine 2% were not ruled by Japanese




Real Hong Kongers are indigenous Hakka, Hokkien, Tanka, Waitou Punti ( Yue Chinese but not related with ones today )


" Hong Kong native peoples include the Hakka and Tanka, who speak their own dialects. Another dialect traditionally spoken is Weitou.
Hong Kong Island was first colonised by the British Empire in 1842 with a population of only 7,450; however, it was in 1898 that Hong Kong truly became a British colony, when the British also colonised the New Territories (which constitute 86.2% of Hong Kong's modern territory). It was during this period that migrants from China entered, mainly speaking Cantonese (the prestige dialect of Yue Chinese) as a common language. During the following century of British rule, Hong Kong grew into a hub of Cantonese culture, and has remained as such since the handover in 1997. "


My personal opinon. I think Cantonese are the most successful if not at least the luckiest. I say this because they have almost everything Cantonese media, cinema, movies, videos, official status, comics in Cantonese while other Chinese don't have it.


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( Macau natives were Tanka by the way )

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Btw the British ruled the Hakka people 58 years before they ruled Cantonese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong

"The population of Hong Kong Island was 7,450 when the Union Flag raised over Possession Point on 26 January 1841. It mostly consisted of Tanka fishermen and Hakka charcoal burners, whose settlements scattered along several coastal hamlets. In the 1850s, a large number of Chinese immigrants crossed the then-free border to escape from the Taiping Rebellion. Other natural disasters, such as flooding, typhoons and famine in mainland China would play a role in establishing Hong Kong as a place for safe shelter.[68][69] "


Cantonese were on the new territories while Hakka were spread in all every part; in kowloon, hong kong island , new territories.
 
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So explain to me why Chinese leadership is so inferior ?


Why was China in the past 150 years so crappy ?

first there was the damn European foreign imperialist, than there was Xinhui revolution leading to provincial warlords to the ROC and PRC civil killing 5-10 million, than there was the Japanese which result in 20-30 million China people being killed, than there was the inferior Hakka and other Wu Chinese, North Han Chinese which created the cultural revolution and Great leap foward that killed 40-70 million Chinese..... seriously Chinese are inferior indeed...


Even today their awful reputation is ashaming the people of Asia.

[video=youtube;6j9bLIg84XM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j9bLIg84XM&t=129s[/video]
 
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Why are you talking about of academic boasting ?




Firstable, the only reason there academic interest of Hakka Chinese is simply because you were persecuted and discriminated for thousand years since your migration to southern China, you're similar to the Jews of being persecuted, hated in history.


Second, if Hakka are so famous why 99% of the world don't know who you are. You lack cultural influence, you're always assimilated. So where's you Hakka influence ?
If the British and Japanese empire were able to create massive empire and spread their influence ( for example English the world most spoken language ). You have leaders yet have 0% linguistic and cultural influence and impact on the world.


Thirdly, some don't even considered you as Han Chinese and that caused more academic interest, although genetic clear shows you're close to South Han Chinese.

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Why are you talking about of academic boasting ?




Firstable, the only reason there academic interest of Hakka Chinese is simply because you were persecuted and discriminated for thousand years since your migration to southern China, you're similar to the Jews of being persecuted, hated in history.


Second, if Hakka are so famous why 99% of the world don't know who you are. You lack cultural influence, you're always assimilated. So where's you Hakka influence ?
If the British and Japanese empire were able to create massive empire and spread their influence ( for example English the world most spoken language ). You have leaders yet have 0% linguistic and cultural influence and impact on the world.


Thirdly, some don't even considered you as Han Chinese and that caused more academic interest, although genetic clear shows you're close to South Han Chinese.

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this is nonsense.
to claim ancestry the academic way to to study the genetic DNA profile and it has been proven the the modern day Hakka is as close you can get to a pure Han chinese.

here is the scientific study and data which is irrefutable:
[Origin of Hakka and Hakkanese: a genetics analysis].
[Article in Chinese]
Li H1, Pan WY, Wen B, Yang NN, Jin JZ, Jin L, Lu DR.
Author information
Abstract
Hakka is a distinctive Han Chinese population in Southern China speaking Hakkanese. The origin of Hakka has been controversial. In this report, we analyzed Y chromosomal markers in 148 Hakka males. Principle component analysis of Y-SNP haplotype distribution shows Hakka is clusteed strongly with the Han in Northern China, and is also close to She, a Hmong-Mien-speaking population, while the general Southern Han is fairly close to Daic populations. Admixture analysis revealed that the relative genetic contribution 80.2% (Han), 13% (She) and 6.8% (Kam) in Hakka. The network of Y-STR haplotype of M7 individuals in all concerned populations suggested two possible origins of Hmong-Mien contribution in Hakka: One is from Hubei and the other is from Canton. The Kam contribution in Hakka is likely from Kan-Yue, the ancient aborigine of Kiangsi (Jiangxi). The frequency of 9bp-deletion in Region V of mitochondrial DNA of Hakka is 19.7%, which is quite close to She but far from Han. We therefore concluded that genetically the majority of Hakka gene pool shall come from North Han with She contributing the most among all non-Han groups. Regarding the Hmong-Mien character of Hakkanese, the genetic structure of Hakka shows their core may be Kim-man, the ancient Hmong-Mien. We hypothesized that a great number of Han people from North China join this population in succession. Southern Chinese dialects, such as Hakkanese may also be those languages of Southern aborigines at first, and turn to extant appearance under the continuance effect of Northern Chinese.
PMID: 14577381
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14577381

80% of the genes is from the original northern Han lineage as stated in the study. get your facts correct. not even southern han
 
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numero uno

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Why are you talking about of academic boasting ?




Firstable, the only reason there academic interest of Hakka Chinese is simply because you were persecuted and discriminated for thousand years since your migration to southern China, you're similar to the Jews of being persecuted, hated in history.


Second, if Hakka are so famous why 99% of the world don't know who you are. You lack cultural influence, you're always assimilated. So where's you Hakka influence ?
If the British and Japanese empire were able to create massive empire and spread their influence ( for example English the world most spoken language ). You have leaders yet have 0% linguistic and cultural influence and impact on the world.


Thirdly, some don't even considered you as Han Chinese and that caused more academic interest, although genetic clear shows you're close to South Han Chinese.

2pqjf2p.jpg

you are talking nonsense again . its like asking how come 99.999% of the world does not know about askenazy jews or shepardic jews. who cares frankly speaking
 

HonkieSingie

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this is nonsense.
to claim ancestry the academic way to to study the genetic DNA profile and it has been proven the the modern day Hakka is as close you can get to a pure Han chinese.

here is the scientific study and data which is irrefutable:
[Origin of Hakka and Hakkanese: a genetics analysis].
[Article in Chinese]
Li H1, Pan WY, Wen B, Yang NN, Jin JZ, Jin L, Lu DR.
Author information
Abstract
Hakka is a distinctive Han Chinese population in Southern China speaking Hakkanese. The origin of Hakka has been controversial. In this report, we analyzed Y chromosomal markers in 148 Hakka males. Principle component analysis of Y-SNP haplotype distribution shows Hakka is clusteed strongly with the Han in Northern China, and is also close to She, a Hmong-Mien-speaking population, while the general Southern Han is fairly close to Daic populations. Admixture analysis revealed that the relative genetic contribution 80.2% (Han), 13% (She) and 6.8% (Kam) in Hakka. The network of Y-STR haplotype of M7 individuals in all concerned populations suggested two possible origins of Hmong-Mien contribution in Hakka: One is from Hubei and the other is from Canton. The Kam contribution in Hakka is likely from Kan-Yue, the ancient aborigine of Kiangsi (Jiangxi). The frequency of 9bp-deletion in Region V of mitochondrial DNA of Hakka is 19.7%, which is quite close to She but far from Han. We therefore concluded that genetically the majority of Hakka gene pool shall come from North Han with She contributing the most among all non-Han groups. Regarding the Hmong-Mien character of Hakkanese, the genetic structure of Hakka shows their core may be Kim-man, the ancient Hmong-Mien. We hypothesized that a great number of Han people from North China join this population in succession. Southern Chinese dialects, such as Hakkanese may also be those languages of Southern aborigines at first, and turn to extant appearance under the continuance effect of Northern Chinese.
PMID: 14577381
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14577381

80% of the genes is from the original Han lineage as stated in the study.



NO. You silly billy............ that's a Y-STR study. Meaning your paternally 80% Han however maternally you are less than 25%

Analysis of matrilineal genetic background differences between Chaoshan population, Cantonese and Hakka

http://www.jdyxb.cn/en/oa/DArticle.aspx?type=view&id=201006003

" ABSTRACT: Objective Three ethnic populations of Han inhabitants in Guangdong Province, namely, Chaoshan population, Cantonese and Hakka, descended from north-central China Han immigrants. Here we analyzed their genetic background differences based on mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) evidences reflecting matrilineal genetics. Methods Based on mtDNA variations, we inferred mtDNA haplogroups of 48 and 89 subjects from the Taihang and Chaoshan areas, respectively. mtDNA data of Cantonese and Hakka populations were quoted from published literature. We compared haplogroup distribution in the 3 ethnic populations with that in the Taihang Mountain population and the southern natives. Results The northern Han-dominating haplogroups were predominant in the Taihang Mountain population, while Cantonese and Hakka populations had southern natives-dominating haplogroups as their major haplogroups, and Chaoshan population possessed slightly higher frequency of northern haplogroups than southern haplogroups. The principal component analysis based on frequencies of mtDNA haplogroups showed that the Taihang Mountain population and Chaoshan population clustered together, and that Cantonese, Hakka and the southern natives clustered together. Conclusion Of the 3 ethnic populations, Chaoshan population alone possesses the purest lineage of north-central China Hans, and shows the closest genetic affinity to the Taihang Mountain population, which might be one of the reasons why Chaoshan population alone has become esophageal cancer high-risk population in the coast of southern China. Both Cantonese and Hakka populations show more gene flow from the southern natives in the maternal lineage. "
 

numero uno

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So explain to me why Chinese leadership is so inferior ?


Why was China in the past 150 years so crappy ?

first there was the damn European foreign imperialist, than there was Xinhui revolution leading to provincial warlords to the ROC and PRC civil killing 5-10 million, than there was the Japanese which result in 20-30 million China people being killed, than there was the inferior Hakka and other Wu Chinese, North Han Chinese which created the cultural revolution and Great leap foward that killed 40-70 million Chinese..... seriously Chinese are inferior indeed...


Even today their awful reputation is ashaming the people of Asia.

[video=youtube;6j9bLIg84XM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j9bLIg84XM&t=129s[/video]
why are they rude>>> go and read up on cultural revolution and red guards started by Mao and gang. they are low class henan farmers basically.
in fact ot was deng who was against the cultural revolution where 99% of all chuurch, temples destroyed and all cultures are term bourgeouis and heretical and anyone caught could possibly be killed. a whole generation of children(adults now) grown up with no ethics or moral foundations to guid e them. cases you see of people peeing on roadside are remnants of crude village behaviours propafgated by the cultural revolution
 

HonkieSingie

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you are talking nonsense again . its like asking how come 99.999% of the world does not know about askenazy jews or shepardic jews. who cares frankly speaking



I assure you 99% of the world know what Jews but have no flipping idea what the heck Hakka. Is because your cultural, linguistic influence 0%. Like me, our Teochew dialect have no influence.

Cantonese on the other hand have international reconigntion, they even have Cantonese DVD movies all of the world. Many Japanese/Korean/European celebrities have spoken in Cantonese but never in any other dialect language. They have their own Cantonese news paper, media, and dubbed anime, games; that's true. Cantonese cuisine is also one of the most famous. Teochew, Hakka, Hokkien get assimilated but Cantonese don't get assimilated.

So in terms of cultural influence, no doubt they are superior all the other Chinese accept for Mandarin ( although some say you can't represent Mandarin ).
 

numero uno

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NO. You silly billy............ that's a Y-STR study. Meaning your paternally 80% Han however maternally you are less than 25%

Analysis of matrilineal genetic background differences between Chaoshan population, Cantonese and Hakka

http://www.jdyxb.cn/en/oa/DArticle.aspx?type=view&id=201006003

" ABSTRACT: Objective Three ethnic populations of Han inhabitants in Guangdong Province, namely, Chaoshan population, Cantonese and Hakka, descended from north-central China Han immigrants. Here we analyzed their genetic background differences based on mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) evidences reflecting matrilineal genetics. Methods Based on mtDNA variations, we inferred mtDNA haplogroups of 48 and 89 subjects from the Taihang and Chaoshan areas, respectively. mtDNA data of Cantonese and Hakka populations were quoted from published literature. We compared haplogroup distribution in the 3 ethnic populations with that in the Taihang Mountain population and the southern natives. Results The northern Han-dominating haplogroups were predominant in the Taihang Mountain population, while Cantonese and Hakka populations had southern natives-dominating haplogroups as their major haplogroups, and Chaoshan population possessed slightly higher frequency of northern haplogroups than southern haplogroups. The principal component analysis based on frequencies of mtDNA haplogroups showed that the Taihang Mountain population and Chaoshan population clustered together, and that Cantonese, Hakka and the southern natives clustered together. Conclusion Of the 3 ethnic populations, Chaoshan population alone possesses the purest lineage of north-central China Hans, and shows the closest genetic affinity to the Taihang Mountain population, which might be one of the reasons why Chaoshan population alone has become esophageal cancer high-risk population in the coast of southern China. Both Cantonese and Hakka populations show more gene flow from the southern natives in the maternal lineage. "

don't be ridiculous. you do not understand DNA analysis at all.
that is a Analysis of matrilineal genetic background differences between Chaoshan population, Cantonese and Hakka. Not a lineage analysis. Go read the aim of study. my refernce is a direct lineage analysis ie Origin of Hakka and Hakkanese: a genetics analysis].
[Article in Chinese]
if you don't understand too bad. it cannot get momre simpler than that.
 

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why are they rude>>> go and read up on cultural revolution and red guards started by Mao and gang. they are low class henan farmers basically.
in fact ot was deng who was against the cultural revolution where 99% of all chuurch, temples destroyed and all cultures are term bourgeouis and heretical and anyone caught could possibly be killed. a whole generation of children(adults now) grown up with no ethics or moral foundations to guid e them. cases you see of people peeing on roadside are remnants of crude village behaviours propafgated by the cultural revolution


Unfortunately, Deng couldn't change the corruptions and he was not in total power, there was the 8 elders who were corrupt and had too much power of their provinces. Deng couldn't do much, if he did than Chinese wouldn't be so corrupt and low class.


The comments are from the Youtube video, with comments like this shows being Chinese have little to be proud of.

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don't be ridiculous. you do not understand DNA analysis at all.
that is a Analysis of matrilineal genetic background differences between Chaoshan population, Cantonese and Hakka. Not a lineage analysis. Go read the aim of study. my refernce is a direct lineage analysis ie Origin of Hakka and Hakkanese: a genetics analysis].
[Article in Chinese]
if you don't understand too bad. it cannot get momre simpler than that.


I have much knowledge on autosomal DNA study.


Cantonese, Hakka, Hoklo have mostly paternal Northern Y-DNA but mostly Southern aborigine maternal mtDNA.

A study by Chinese and Japanese shows Cantonese, Hokkien, Hakka all have HEAVY southern indigenous admixture.


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I assure you 99% of the world know what Jews but have no flipping idea what the heck Hakka. Is because your cultural, linguistic influence 0%. Like me, our Teochew dialect have no influence.

Cantonese on the other hand have international reconigntion, they even have Cantonese DVD movies all of the world. Many Japanese/Korean/European celebrities have spoken in Cantonese but never in any other dialect language. They have their own Cantonese news paper, media, and dubbed anime, games; that's true. Cantonese cuisine is also one of the most famous. Teochew, Hakka, Hokkien get assimilated but Cantonese don't get assimilated.

So in terms of cultural influence, no doubt they are superior all the other Chinese accept for Mandarin ( although some say you can't represent Mandarin ).
please talk logically. I am talking about askenazy jews. its same as saying 99% of the world know about Chinese but very few know about Hakka chinese.
you ask around specifically what s askenazy or shepardic jew s and 99.999% of people does not know. who cares anyway
 

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please talk logically. I am talking about askenazy jews. its same as saying 99% of the world know about Chinese but very few know about Hakka chinese.
you ask around specifically what s askenazy or shepardic jew s and 99.999% of people does not know. who cares anyway

How can you compare Hakka and Jews. The Jewish today have their own country and are a multi-power nuclear state. They could easily destroy the entire middle east if they want.
Also Judaism is well known in the world like christianity, buddhism, islam. You Hakka don't have your own religion right ?

Ashkenazim jews are related with Jews of Middle east. Jews have world wide culture influence, linguistic, religious influence. Look at their list of nobel prize winners and world champions in boxing

Also from every country in the world talk about they control america, they have many conspiracy theories. Do Hakka have any ? I don't see one single video of any international attention given to the Hakka Chinese but there's attention to Askhenezi jews everyday.

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Btw, the Chinese tourist are not only affecting the image of all Chinese people in the world but also the Manhood of Chinese males. They are not only de-sexualizing the image Chinese men today but also all East Asian men...... I MEAN COME ON....... We already have one of the worst penis size stereotypes and now we have these disgusting northern Chinese making us look like cavemen with a peanut brain size.


I TAKE THESE COMMENTS VERY SERIOUSLY......... I'm never seen such strong hate speech directed to Chinese males, it really effects my self-esteem.


THE INFERIOR CHINESE LEADERSHIP IS WHAT CAUSED THIS.




A Holland born Chinese girl refusing to marry disgusting Chinese men

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( This girl actually have videos of K-pop boybands and handsome Korean actors )

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( This girl is a anime fan and have videos of Korean/Japanese boyband )

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There is still some hope :biggrin: because Hong Kong people are not Chinese hahahahahah


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About this horrible comment, sadly there is some truth to it not just from China ( too many Chinese prostitutes in Tokyo ) but also from Taiwanese people bowing down culturally to Japanese; Lee Teng Hui, really a disgraceful Chinese. Around 2000 Taiwanese women used as sexual slaves, ( some estimate 3000 ) and this is not including the 50 years frequently isolated cases of forcing Taiwanese Han women as sexual slaves or raped by Japanese police but he doesn't give a damn. Also, the massacre against the Taiwan aborigines and Hakka rebels, families aswell as Hoklo.

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Lee Tung Hei, he is the only Hakka Chinese I will consider disgraceful. he worships Japanese. He tries to cover all crimes the Japanese had committed to Taiwanese people. He visits the Japanese war criminal shines, says Japan was his motherland and that comfort women was prostitutes. There a estimated of 430-600 Hakka females used as comfort women ( with the rest being Hoklo, Taiwan aborigines ). So one would even say Lee Tung Hei is descendant of Japanese.


Guys like him make people people think EVEN THEIR OWN CHINESE worships and bow down to the superior Japanese.

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has the great hakkaman forgotten his meds again?

now, you must take your meds ok, then you will not be so full of psychotic hate at pp who do not worship your great hakka heroes.

hahaha!
 

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has the great hakkaman forgotten his meds again?

now, you must take your meds ok, then you will not be so full of psychotic hate at pp who do not worship your great hakka heroes.

hahaha!


Actually it depends. For examples many Taiwanese consider Lee Teng Hui, a hero and father of democracy of Taiwan however he is also considered a disgraceful traitor,
Some Taiwanese don't like him, especially the ones who were killed, or someone related with the comfort women's family, they are the ones who hate him most.

In his books, he claims that Taiwanese is advance today because they embedded Japanese values,morals to Taiwanese. And that Japanese built infrastructure, electricity, education to the Taiwanese people. He said Chinese people lie about the Japanese world war crimes.


However the problem is the Chinese. What is a Chinese suppose to say ? are they supposed to say " YES , YES thank you Japanese so much for advancing our compatriots in Taiwan, thank you for killing millions of Chinese. thank you for not recognizing criminal crimes to China ". Lee Teng Hui is a crazy Japanese slave dog.

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Actually it depends. For examples many Taiwanese consider Lee Teng Hui, a hero and father of democracy of Taiwan however he is also considered a disgraceful traitor,
Some Taiwanese don't like him, especially the ones who were killed, or someone related with the comfort women's family, they are the ones who hate him most.

In his books, he claims that Taiwanese is advance today because they embedded Japanese values,morals to Taiwanese. And that Japanese built infrastructure, electricity, education to the Taiwanese people. He said Chinese people lie about the Japanese world war crimes.


However the problem is the Chinese. What is a Chinese suppose to say ? are they supposed to say " YES , YES thank you Japanese so much for advancing our compatriots in Taiwan, thank you for killing millions of Chinese. thank you for not recognizing criminal crimes to China ". Lee Teng Hui is a crazy Japanese slave dog.

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you really know your stuff...i heard he was bad...but i did not know he was that bad :smile:

anyway most of the young "japophiles" in sg say something similar to him.

in sg, the hakka rule (literally) - but at what cost?
 
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you really know your stuff...i heard he was bad...but i did not know he was that bad :smile:

anyway most of the young "japophiles" in sg say something similar to him.

in sg, the hakka rule (literally) - but at what cost?


Depend what you mean by bad. He is not bad for Taiwanese people who wants advocate for independence but he embarrassed the Chinese race many time. He is the very few people in this world that are proud enough to throw their Chinese pride away. He claims that Asia needed Japan to free Asia from European imperialist, some people will actually agree with this but most still don't agree with his interpretation of comfort women, nanking massacre. He basically claims any crimes committed by the Japanese were no less than the Chinese people.

He likes to impress the Japanese like a old Chinese slave dog.

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