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Wikileak SBF Edition - latest

scroobal

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C O N F I D E N T I A L
SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/06/2018
TAGS: PGOV PREL ECON SN
SUBJECT: VISIT BY SEN. CLINTON TO SINGAPORE (Nov16-18)

Classified By: Amb. David I. Adelman. Reasons 1.4 (b)(d)

¶1. (U) Sec of State Hillary Rodham Clinton in Singapore.
She was accompanied by staff member Huma
Abedin. The Secretary met the Minister Mentor Lee Kuan
Yew on Nov 16. Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY) also participated
in the meeting. MM was wearing dark grey Nike trainer
and a Mao jacket. He really has gone batty. Clearly not
aware that there are dress shoes that are just as well padded and more
appropriate. Confirms speculation that his minders leave him to his own devices
no matter how silly he looks. Obviously they tell him what he wants to hear.
Not longer reliable as a sounding post. Mao jacket in recent times in meeting
foreign guests in private is an attempt to show his association with PRC
and to be associated with its rising power. Discussion not very cogent or
relevant. Guys is rapidly sliding.

¶2. Could not help but note that despite not being in cabinet or accountable
for a portfolio continues to enjoy the trappings of power. Asked about succession
scenario after his son and he became agitated and failed to address. Instead
again offered to run our foreign policy but again had decline politely. Claimed
that he was the best man for the job and should be given the opportunity.
Explained patiently that it should not be done by a foreigner. Claimed that
meritocracy should be the only basis.

¶3. As usual without prompting, covered how he sees the World moving in the
next 3 years. Quite comical at times but entertaining. Things we have to do get access for
our Forces in this part of the World. Thanked him for looking after our people and the press
blanket ban.

¶4. Queried him on the possibility that his eldest granddaughter-in-law is going to be
from PRC and the implication to local policy. Said that the party is already grooming
PRC and Indian New Singaporeans as future MPs. Said that they successfully done it
when Dr Aline Wong from HK who came to Singapore as an adult and became a
Singapore and later a Minister of State. A non-issue in his eyes.
 

Dreamer1

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Thank you for update.
MM Lee is senile,he does not know that Communist China is going to collapse into 8 plus Tibet,Inner Mongolia going back to Mongolia,Kazakhstan,all together 10 countries and loss of inner Mongolia,he is slow.It started from his stupid cliam of Singapore plus East and South East Asia now in Golden Age.
 

TracyTan866

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Thank you for update.
MM Lee is senile,he does not know that Communist China is going to collapse into 8 plus Tibet,Inner Mongolia going back to Mongolia,Kazakhstan,all together 10 countries and loss of inner Mongolia,he is slow.It started from his stupid cliam of Singapore plus East and South East Asia now in Golden Age.

USA will remain as one country. Will China remain what it is or will it go the way of USSR?
 

Dreamer1

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USA will remain as one country. Will China remain what it is or will it go the way of USSR?
「七國」再加上「中國」,總共就是(八國)
所謂的「七國」,就是分別以說
吳語(Wunese)或
晉語(Jinese)或
閩語(Minese)或
粵語(Yue,Cantonese)或
客家語 (Hakka,Kejia)或
湘語(Xiang,Hunanese)或
贛語(Ganese),
為其自然語言或初學語言的支那人所「型」成的國度。
這「七國」是先從現在的中國所「坌」解出來的國家。
這「七國」再加上「中國」,總共就是「八國」。
東突厥和圖博「徊」復獨立,西藏(圖博)
內外蒙古合併。
Communist China breaks into 8 plus independent Tibet,Kazakhstan,all together 10 countries and loss of inner Mongolia to Mongolia,內外蒙古.
 
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hairylee

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The world will remain round, the sun the rise from the east and set in the west. Rivers will always flow down a mountain.
Wonder why he is still dispensing his "Wisdom".
 

kingrant

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As usual, great thread! What a gem!

He's nutty as well as batty. Old Man with his peccadillos. Got to watch the space on the last part tho.

C O N F I D E N T I A L
SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/06/2018
TAGS: PGOV PREL ECON SN
SUBJECT: VISIT BY SEN. CLINTON TO SINGAPORE (Nov16-18)

Classified By: Amb. David I. Adelman. Reasons 1.4 (b)(d)

¶1. (U) Sec of State Hillary Rodham Clinton in Singapore.
She was accompanied by staff member Huma
Abedin. The Secretary met the Minister Mentor Lee Kuan
Yew on Nov 16. Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY) also participated
in the meeting. MM was wearing dark grey Nike trainer
and a Mao jacket. He really has gone batty. Clearly not
aware that there are dress shoes that are just as well padded and more
appropriate. Confirms speculation that his minders leave him to his own devices
no matter how silly he looks. Obviously they tell him what he wants to hear.
Not longer reliable as a sounding post. Mao jacket in recent times in meeting
foreign guests in private is an attempt to show his association with PRC
and to be associated with its rising power. Discussion not very cogent or
relevant. Guys is rapidly sliding.

¶2. Could not help but note that despite not being in cabinet or accountable
for a portfolio continues to enjoy the trappings of power. Asked about succession
scenario after his son and he became agitated and failed to address. Instead
again offered to run our foreign policy but again had decline politely. Claimed
that he was the best man for the job and should be given the opportunity.
Explained patiently that it should not be done by a foreigner. Claimed that
meritocracy should be the only basis.

¶3. As usual without prompting, covered how he sees the World moving in the
next 3 years. Quite comical at times but entertaining. Things we have to do get access for
our Forces in this part of the World. Thanked him for looking after our people and the press
blanket ban.

¶4. Queried him on the possibility that his eldest granddaughter-in-law is going to be
from PRC and the implication to local policy. Said that the party is already grooming
PRC and Indian New Singaporeans as future MPs. Said that they successfully done it
when Dr Aline Wong from HK who came to Singapore as an adult and became a
Singapore and later a Minister of State. A non-issue in his eyes.
 
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aurvandil

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The candidate the PAP was backing lost the election by a landslide. Hence the downgrading of relations so that we only get a quickie post election visit by Hilary. The PRC future daughter in law question is loaded. As is, the US already knows Singapore plays both sides. A First Lady whose family are ranking members of the Politburo would call into the question the soundness of Singapore. While the union has received blessing, the lovestruck grandson might have to give the PM position a miss.
 
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OverTheCounter

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Generous Asset
The candidate the PAP was backing lost the election by a landslide. Hence the downgrading of relations so that we only get a quickie post election visit by Hilary. The PRC future daughter in law question is loaded. As is, the US already knows Singapore plays both sides. A First Lady whose family are ranking members of the Politburo would call into the question the soundness of Singapore. While the union has received blessing, the lovestruck grandson might have to give the PM position a miss.


As i said this is a gemstone from scroobal. All the angles in one diplomatic cable. Good stuff.
 

POSTMAN

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When will it dawn on him that time and tide wait for no man and that the ripper is waiting impatiently.
Time to move on.
 

kingrant

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All your chains are being yanked. The wikileak is a spoof ,but nevertheless, a masterstroke! Genius!
 
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Bigfuck

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All your chains are being yanked. The wikileak is a spoof ,but nevertheless, a masterstroke! Genius!

No chains are being yanked. Other than hardcore empirical science, truth is perceived and no one really knows all the facts as no one can record all the facts. The perceived truth is clear is Leegime needs to be booted out.
 

kingrant

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Indeed the line between truth and spoof is so thin that';s why it is so believeable. Hilary is so kind as to raise those issues on behalf of Scroobal.


No chains are being yanked. Other than hardcore empirical science, truth is perceived and no one really knows all the facts as no one can record all the facts. The perceived truth is clear is Leegime needs to be booted out.
 
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