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Hwa-young's wardrobe disaster

Looks like those retarded fans have succeeded in taking down the video.
Must protect her dignity! Take down the video! LOL!

Here is another link:

[video=youtube;wbSGiAy33LQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbSGiAy33LQ[/video]
 
Yet more Asians pretending to be Western. It's disgusting. Why can't the Asians develop their own brand of music and choreography instead of simply copying the West wholesale? They even resort to inserting English lyrics all over the place!!! Ptui!!!!

Don't talk as if u know about K-POP. Do u know just how massive K-POP is? It has a mammoth following across the world and even the Chinese, Filipinos and Indonesians are learning the Korean language because of K-POP influence. K-POP artists concerts are sold out wherever they perform. It stands among the Samsungs, Hyundai and LGs in term of foreign exchange earnings for S Korea. K-POP is a brand of its own for music. Together with the highly popular Korean TV Dramas, Korean culture has spread its wings across the whole of Asia and probably to some parts of the west too.

So please don't show your ignorance here. Stick to what u do best ie carrying the PAP's balls
 
she's the gal in the black sphaggetthi top with that black lace covering her shoulders right? Damn she's like the ugliest of all. Her hairstyle is like a tiong.
 
Yet more Asians pretending to be Western. It's disgusting. Why can't the Asians develop their own brand of music and choreography instead of simply copying the West wholesale? They even resort to inserting English lyrics all over the place!!! Ptui!!!!

You give it another 15 to 20 years and they will be inserting chinese in their language
 
Don't talk as if u know about K-POP. Do u know just how massive K-POP is?

You're obviously one of those twits that harbours the notion that popularity equates to quality.

For anything to be popular, it has to appeal to the masses and we all know that the majority of people in the world have an IQ of less than 120. If the Pinoys and Indonesians enjoy it, it simply proves my point that it is low class music.

K-Pop is inane entertainment for dimwits. The more intelligent amongst us have more discerning tastes.
 

Leongsam and freedalas obviously enjoy stalking each other. On the other hand trolls like me stalk other trolls.
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Leongsam and freedalas obviously enjoy stalking each other. On the other hand trolls like me stalk other trolls.
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The guy's a real idiot. He spews a lot of hot air about helping the poor but obviously spends an inordinate amount of time wasting his breath in this forum. If he thinks that what he writes here benefits the poor in some way, he's seriously dillusional.

The PAP don't give a shit about what's written here. This forum is for lighthearted entertainment. It was never designed to be the seeding ground for the implementation of a welfare state.

It really surprises me that for some reason, all the left wing liberals seem to congregate here. The political compass thread pretty much confirms it. Perhaps they're under the mistaken impression that this forum was anti PAP. They didn't realise that I'm one of the government's staunchest supporters.
 
It is another factory, I cannot tell the difference between one from another - it is one big mass production, with all the bollywood dance steps.

Korea is one f*cking big exporting country. from electronics to vehicles to culture (韓流) to whores. I am not sure whether it is still a crime to change their export constitution.
But the confusionism reign as they mix the wrost of Confucianism and Western liberalism. It is one bloody stressful place to live in.
No wonder the Koreans are exiting the country in droves. The young are scared of reunification and the complex social hierarchy, with all its fine gradations

When are the jealous North going to attack?


Don't talk as if u know about K-POP. Do u know just how massive K-POP is? It has a mammoth following across the world and even the Chinese, Filipinos and Indonesians are learning the Korean language because of K-POP influence. K-POP artists concerts are sold out wherever they perform. It stands among the Samsungs, Hyundai and LGs in term of foreign exchange earnings for S Korea. K-POP is a brand of its own for music. Together with the highly popular Korean TV Dramas, Korean culture has spread its wings across the whole of Asia and probably to some parts of the west too.

So please don't show your ignorance here. Stick to what u do best ie carrying the PAP's balls
 
This forum is for lighthearted entertainment. It was never designed to be the seeding ground for the implementation of a welfare state.

It really surprises me that for some reason, all the left wing liberals seem to congregate here. The political compass thread pretty much confirms it. Perhaps they're under the mistaken impression that this forum was anti PAP. They didn't realise that I'm one of the government's staunchest supporters.

Why are you surprised that the left wingers are here, where else can they re-establish the left-wing faction of PAP? Young PAP forum?

When LKY claims Singapore to be First World, that is the most important moment for the missing left wing, which First World country does not have a Left and Right Wings and a huge Centrist followers (those who do not know whether they are leftist or rightist)

Building an more egalitarian structure is in the Singapore pledge, reflected in the MP pensions and in allowing a disabled senile octogenarian backbencher to sit right in front. :D
 
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Agree on the first part but stretching our incredulity on the second.

Salvation don't come from PAP. Its better for you to arrange for a meeting with the Pope.

It was never designed to be the seeding ground for the implementation of a welfare state.

It really surprises me that for some reason, all the left wing liberals seem to congregate here. The political compass thread pretty much confirms it. Perhaps they're under the mistaken impression that this forum was anti PAP. They didn't realise that I'm one of the government's staunchest supporters.
 
Don't talk as if u know about K-POP. Do u know just how massive K-POP is? It has a mammoth following across the world and even the Chinese, Filipinos and Indonesians are learning the Korean language because of K-POP influence. K-POP artists concerts are sold out wherever they perform. It stands among the Samsungs, Hyundai and LGs in term of foreign exchange earnings for S Korea. K-POP is a brand of its own for music. Together with the highly popular Korean TV Dramas, Korean culture has spread its wings across the whole of Asia and probably to some parts of the west too.

so now K-pop > J-pop?

our TV don't show much J-drama nowadays, only K-drama.
 
isn't k-pop just a cheap copy of j-pop?

Anyway i'm now in euro techno and dance.
 
isn't k-pop just a cheap copy of j-pop?

Anyway i'm now in euro techno and dance.

The craze for all things Korean started with Winter Sonata and Bae Yong Jun.

It's harder to pinpoint the start of J-pop's popularity, but it probably started around the early 1990s with Chage & Aska.

J-pop died off (or got eclipsed by K-pop) towards the end of the last decade, around the time when Ayumi Hamasaki turned 30.
 
The craze for all things Korean started with Winter Sonata and Bae Yong Jun.

It's harder to pinpoint the start of J-pop's popularity, but it probably started around the early 1990s with Chage & Aska.

J-pop died off (or got eclipsed by K-pop) towards the end of the last decade, around the time when Ayumi Hamasaki turned 30.


J-pop got popular because alot of HK artists copy Japanese songs during the 70s and 80s ....
 
J-pop got popular because alot of HK artists copy Japanese songs during the 70s and 80s ....

The lyrics may be Jap or Korean but it's all Western Music because the tune is composed from semitones.

Proper Japanese music has no beat and often has negative space (ma) forming part of the composition.

The choreography isn't original either. The dance moves are simply a mish mash of Michael Jackson moves with Hip Hop and a bit of Irish footwork thrown in for good measure.

It's absolutely disgraceful that the East simply cannot come up with something more original and closer to their cultural roots.
 
Sideswipe said:
so now K-pop > J-pop?

our TV don't show much J-drama nowadays, only K-drama.

Some Japanese friends told me that they preferred to watch K-dramas than J-dramas because K-dramas were more realistic whereas J-dramas were too idealized, very much like some local drama that captured propaganda messages.
And that phenomenon started almost ten years ago.
 
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The lyrics may be Jap or Korean but it's all Western Music because the tune is composed from semitones.

The cultural characteristic of a piece of music is much more than the musical scale used. You don't have to have microtonal scales like that of the Indian traditional 22 intervals Carnatic scale to stake cultural distinction.

Most pentatonic scales like that used in Far Eastern folk music tradition can be approximated to a sub-set of the chromatic scale of western music, thus allowing the use of modern western instruments to play such music. In fact scales are just systems of musical intervals and carry physical property more than any cultural characteristic.

Western music borrowed quite a bit from Eastern tradition and sometimes used the pentatonic scale. Both Debussy and Ravel dabbled with pentatonic scales. Greek, Celtic and American folk and spiritual music too adopts significantly the pentatonic scale. And modern Western rock and electronic musicians experimented using microtonal scales to seek liberation from the traditional chromatic scale of the West.

Other than scales, there are also much borrowing nowadays of the rhythmic, thematic characteristics of different cultures that it is difficult to say which music is from which culture, particularly modern music. The great Paul Simon borrowed unashamedly from African themes and rhythms in his now legendary Graceland album. Closer to home, Stephanie Sun borrows liberally from Indian themes and rhythms in her Chinese songs.

Looks like music parallels the borderless world of the Internet.
 
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The cultural characteristic of a piece of music is much more than the musical scale used. You don't have to have microtonal scales like that of the Indian traditional 22 intervals Carnatic scale to stake cultural distinction.

Watch 10 seconds of that stupid "lovey dovey" crap and tell me with a straight face that it isn't a wholesale, 100% copy of the current Western pop genre. The lighting, the set, the clothes, the rhythm and the choreography.... ALL stolen 100%. There is not an iota of anything Korean in the mix other than some of the lyrics.
 
Leongsam said:
Watch 10 seconds of that stupid "lovey dovey" crap and tell me with a straight face that it isn't a wholesale, 100% copy of the current Western pop genre. The lighting, the set, the clothes, the rhythm and the choreography.... ALL stolen 100%. There is not an iota of anything Korean in the mix other than some of the lyrics.

You don't see much in Western music of the sort of dance routine of Korean girl bands. Western musicians if they do dance tend to do so individually, not as a team.
 
You don't see much in Western music of the sort of dance routine of Korean girl bands. Western musicians if they do dance tend to do so individually, not as a team.

This is the choreography started it all for the mass market.


 
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