SDP - a party to watch for 2016

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In 2011, SDP was coming off a low base. Therefore, the percentage gains over the previous election, while impressive by themselves, must be understood in that context.

In 2016 however I am predicting they will again be the best performing party, in terms of percentage point improvement over the previous election. They may even win a GRC. That means if WP fails to capture East Coast (or whatever is redrawn for the 2016 elections), WP and SDP may be neck to neck in Parliament post 2016.

Reason is simple. SDP has undergone a massive overhaul since 2009. They have only had two years to establish a new track record with the public. While parties like WP and NSP are already well established in their approach and the public is very familiar with how they do things, the SDP upswing is still in its infancy. If they can gain so much in two years (2009-2011), the next five years should be promising providing they remain committed to change and progress.

Stay tuned on the SDP channel. I suspect they will punch way above their weight in 2016.
 
It depends on who they can attract and retain.
If TJS forms a new party, it appears that Michelle and Amg may leave, possibly a few others too.
Vincent could be the key, if he concentrates on promoting gay rights or other rights which the public are not interested, he might go the route of a political dinosaur as well.

Most important factor is who they can attract. Unfortunately for them, the CSJ stigma will always remain, some if it deserved, others pap-enabled. I tend to think that people will be put off by this and veer towards WP, SPP or even a new party.

Do you have any info on good new members that SDP have recruited?
 
In 2011, SDP was coming off a low base. Therefore, the percentage gains over the previous election, while impressive by themselves, must be understood in that context.

In 2016 however I am predicting they will again be the best performing party, in terms of percentage point improvement over the previous election. They may even win a GRC. That means if WP fails to capture East Coast (or whatever is redrawn for the 2016 elections), WP and SDP may be neck to neck in Parliament post 2016.

Reason is simple. SDP has undergone a massive overhaul since 2009. They have only had two years to establish a new track record with the public. While parties like WP and NSP are already well established in their approach and the public is very familiar with how they do things, the SDP upswing is still in its infancy. If they can gain so much in two years (2009-2011), the next five years should be promising providing they remain committed to change and progress.

Stay tuned on the SDP channel. I suspect they will punch way above their weight in 2016.

I agree. I hope that the SDP will do what WP did in GE 2011. And I hope that WP will do better in the next GE. SDP has been a thorn in PAP's side. PAP is truly afraid to face VW, TJS, AYG, and CSJ in Parliament. PAP has to stop SDP at all costs. But Singaporeans have woken and it may not be easy to keep SDP away from parliament
 
In 2011, SDP was coming off a low base. Therefore, the percentage gains over the previous election, while impressive by themselves, must be understood in that context.

In 2016 however I am predicting they will again be the best performing party, in terms of percentage point improvement over the previous election. They may even win a GRC. That means if WP fails to capture East Coast (or whatever is redrawn for the 2016 elections), WP and SDP may be neck to neck in Parliament post 2016.

Reason is simple. SDP has undergone a massive overhaul since 2009. They have only had two years to establish a new track record with the public. While parties like WP and NSP are already well established in their approach and the public is very familiar with how they do things, the SDP upswing is still in its infancy. If they can gain so much in two years (2009-2011), the next five years should be promising providing they remain committed to change and progress.

Stay tuned on the SDP channel. I suspect they will punch way above their weight in 2016.

they tried to push their newsletter into my auntie hand when doing walkabout...

my auntie say no cause she cant read english... the cover price was $3....
 
It depends on who they can attract and retain.
If TJS forms a new party, it appears that Michelle and Amg may leave, possibly a few others too.
Vincent could be the key, if he concentrates on promoting gay rights or other rights which the public are not interested, he might go the route of a political dinosaur as well.

Most important factor is who they can attract. Unfortunately for them, the CSJ stigma will always remain, some if it deserved, others pap-enabled. I tend to think that people will be put off by this and veer towards WP, SPP or even a new party.

Do you have any info on good new members that SDP have recruited?

sunshine empire Jarrod Luo???
 
You must know something that has not reached the public space?


In 2011, SDP was coming off a low base. Therefore, the percentage gains over the previous election, while impressive by themselves, must be understood in that context.

In 2016 however I am predicting they will again be the best performing party, in terms of percentage point improvement over the previous election. They may even win a GRC. That means if WP fails to capture East Coast (or whatever is redrawn for the 2016 elections), WP and SDP may be neck to neck in Parliament post 2016.

Reason is simple. SDP has undergone a massive overhaul since 2009. They have only had two years to establish a new track record with the public. While parties like WP and NSP are already well established in their approach and the public is very familiar with how they do things, the SDP upswing is still in its infancy. If they can gain so much in two years (2009-2011), the next five years should be promising providing they remain committed to change and progress.

Stay tuned on the SDP channel. I suspect they will punch way above their weight in 2016.
 
You must know something that has not reached the public space?

It is good for SDP to keep their cards close to themselves like what WP did with CSM, Pritam, etc..

Give the pap a surprise at the next GE
 
It is good for SDP to keep their cards close to themselves like what WP did with CSM, Pritam, etc..

Give the pap a surprise at the next GE

comparing the 2 of them together is insulting to each of them ... since they hate each other more than they hate PAP
 
It is good for SDP to keep their cards close to themselves like what WP did with CSM, Pritam, etc..

Give the pap a surprise at the next GE


In terms of party discipline, SDP is on par with WP. The only area is on facebook, where members need to keep in mind that even though they are conversing as private individuals, people out there see them as candidates or potential candidates. Angela Oon, Yaw, Frieda Chan serve as good role models.

Definitely they're going to keep cards very close to their chest, and besides things are always in a state of flux, so speculation is pointless. I am talking about the big picture trends, whether they have learnt from past mistakes and lapses, and so far, very encouraging. They seem to have the wind behind their backs.

TJS, Mich, AYG are not indispensible in the larger scheme of things, so those who base their assessment purely on whether this group will be staying or leaving are miscalculating, in my humble opinion. Definitely they will bring in more talent by 2016, going from the looks of things.
 
aiyah................don't care who is opposition lah...................vote for them...........that's it..............



even if opposition field 5 cockroaches in GRC against PAP..................i'll vote for the bugs..................

at least they can't hurt me !
 
In terms of party discipline, SDP is on par with WP. The only area is on facebook, where members need to keep in mind that even though they are conversing as private individuals, people out there see them as candidates or potential candidates. Angela Oon, Yaw, Frieda Chan serve as good role models.

Definitely they're going to keep cards very close to their chest, and besides things are always in a state of flux, so speculation is pointless. I am talking about the big picture trends, whether they have learnt from past mistakes and lapses, and so far, very encouraging. They seem to have the wind behind their backs.

TJS, Mich, AYG are not indispensible in the larger scheme of things, so those who base their assessment purely on whether this group will be staying or leaving are miscalculating, in my humble opinion. Definitely they will bring in more talent by 2016, going from the looks of things.

Thanks for your analytical views. They are very refreshing. Yes, I hope that SDP will not show their cards early...keep them till the last minute even until nomination day for GE 2015/16. Keep the pap guessing. I think the SDP has a lot of substance and the pap is more afraid of SDP.
 
I always remember an important lesson in management and carry this with me for several aspects of my life. Your goal must be realistic and achievable, your targets measurable. I sometime feel that some political parties try to achieve too many things and all at the same time. They should find a strategist who can prioritize things.
 
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Thanks for your analytical views. They are very refreshing. Yes, I hope that SDP will not show their cards early...keep them till the last minute even until nomination day for GE 2015/16. Keep the pap guessing. I think the SDP has a lot of substance and the pap is more afraid of SDP.


SDP has a lot of raw energy and they need to learn how to both harness as well as manage it.

The old birds are going to have to adapt to the new world, but I believe they can -- and will. I have more confidence in the ability of SDP's oldies to change and adapt than I do NSP's oldies.

2016 will be very very exciting -- if the oppo as a whole plays it right. That means a wholehearted focus on grassroots work, a good internet engagement strategy, and media savviness. I mean, you must make the media report on you objectively, and make them think of you more as friend than as an enemy -- even though the media has its hands tied by the powers-above. Three basic ingredients. You get these 3 right, you're on your way.
 
I always remember an important lesson in management and carry this with me with several aspects of my life. Your goal must be realistic and achievable, your targets measurable. I sometime feel that some political parties try to achieve too many things and all at the same time. They should find a strategist who can prioritize things.

Good point and good advice. I think PAP will be fully stretched at the next GE. Without enough strong ministers to lead the 14 GRCs, some are likely to fall in an united, concentrated and frontal assault. It's up to the various APs to agree amiably on the boundaries of their turfs. If the APs are united, many GRCs will fall.
 
SDP has a lot of raw energy and they need to learn how to both harness as well as manage it.

The old birds are going to have to adapt to the new world, but I believe they can -- and will. I have more confidence in the ability of SDP's oldies to change and adapt than I do NSP's oldies.

2016 will be very very exciting -- if the oppo as a whole plays it right. That means a wholehearted focus on grassroots work, a good internet engagement strategy, and media savviness. I mean, you must make the media report on you objectively, and make them think of you more as friend than as an enemy -- even though the media has its hands tied by the powers-above. Three basic ingredients. You get these 3 right, you're on your way.

very true...it's all in the APs court. Be united to attack the common enemy. The pap is on the defensive...if the pap cant attract new credible talents and have to rely on the cabinet Ministers now to lead the GRCs, they are doomed
 
I agree. I hope that the SDP will do what WP did in GE 2011. And I hope that WP will do better in the next GE. SDP has been a thorn in PAP's side. PAP is truly afraid to face VW, TJS, AYG, and CSJ in Parliament. PAP has to stop SDP at all costs. But Singaporeans have woken and it may not be easy to keep SDP away from parliament

sdp is NOT a thorn for the pap. rather it is chee who's the biggest thorn in sdp's butt.

for so many years, there is negligible progress in sdp after chiam was ungraciously booted out. chiam continued to win over potong pasir until the recent GE which he made a fatal mistake of leaving PP. anyway it was a very narrow loss.

look at sdp. there were definitely lots of bragging but the end result is still a big ZERO. they din win anything and dun even qualify for a ncmp post.

so who to blame? according to chee, it would definitely be the voters, his image consultants, his minions, the medias, paps, other opps...etc except himself chee soon juan.
 
In 2011, SDP was coming off a low base. Therefore, the percentage gains over the previous election, while impressive by themselves, must be understood in that context.

In 2016 however I am predicting they will again be the best performing party, in terms of percentage point improvement over the previous election. They may even win a GRC. That means if WP fails to capture East Coast (or whatever is redrawn for the 2016 elections), WP and SDP may be neck to neck in Parliament post 2016.

Reason is simple. SDP has undergone a massive overhaul since 2009. They have only had two years to establish a new track record with the public. While parties like WP and NSP are already well established in their approach and the public is very familiar with how they do things, the SDP upswing is still in its infancy. If they can gain so much in two years (2009-2011), the next five years should be promising providing they remain committed to change and progress.

Stay tuned on the SDP channel. I suspect they will punch way above their weight in 2016.

You might want to note that no SDP ward scored above 40%, unlike SPP and NSP. Its improvement came into context of people being fed up with the PAP. TJS and gang was a factor but such factors will keep resetting to "best possible mode" as they do not stay long.

All opposition parties have the same diminishing hope in 2 elections WP will not field 87 candidates. Of course they can contest but the loss of deposits can be quite heavy to bear. In 1963 UPP was brought down by that. Their only hope is WP self-destruct before it happens.
 
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It is good for SDP to keep their cards close to themselves like what WP did with CSM, Pritam, etc..

Give the pap a surprise at the next GE

You must be joking! Our intel service will feed the info to their political masters way, way before any of these chaps ID is publicy made known. Do you seriously believe our MIW were not aware of CSM and PS's entry as opposithion chaps? You believe LTK entering Aljunied GRC was a surprise?
 
Imho, the populace may grow increasingly fonder of Chee's confrontational style and even deemed it necessary in tomorrow's parliament. I for one am inclined to get somebody like Chee into parliament as I think he can be usefully vocal and he has the brains and mind to bring life into the parry, cut and thrust theatrics of a lively vibrant House.

It is better to rein in a wild stallion than to flog donkeys. I believe Chee can learn to adapt and tone down a little of his roughness and he'll be an ideal sparring partner. After all, the House is for debates. Let not the PAP tell you that it is a place to solve national problems. We all know that is all BS.

We have had near 100% PAP dominance in the House for years until the recent upset in GE2011 and now we have all these problems: immigration policies, flooding, train breakdowns, etc. If we had left PAP alone in the whole House for nearly 2-3 decades and they can't solve problems and prevent problems of the scale we have seen, then it can't be that a noisy Opposition has been stumping the govt, ain't it?

Then what's the big deal now if we want to have some robust debates?! Can't be that much worse right? And surely we can experiment with what's new that may just work?
 
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