Is it time to consider a Solid State Drive(SSD)?

[johnny333]

I recently upgraded to Windows 7 & now exploring the possibility of getting an SSD drive. However I've read of people having problems with BSOD & with other problems. Could these problems be a result of older hw?
I am using 1 year old hw: a I7 processor, Intel P55 express chip, 4MB of RAM.

Would be interested in hearing people's opinion

 

[singveld]

ah you have old version of chipset, so just avoid the fastest ssd like ocz vertex 3 etc. looking at your motherboard, i dun think you are buying vertex 3, so just buy the cheap ssd and you will be fine.

even if you can afford to buy the fastest ssd now, it will not be running full speed on your puny motherboard. so basically waste of money.

the problem with bsod, is that only intel sata3 are good enough for fastest ssd, some motherboard have non intel sata3 and was not tested with high speed ssd so unable to cope with the amazing speed.

 

[matamafia]

I am using 1 year old hw: a I7 processor, Intel P55 express chip, 4MB of RAM.
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I think you either mixed up yr RAM with 1990's computer or you are joking?

4GB or 4MB that is 1024X diff OK stop confusing me can?

 

[laksaboy]

I have heard that at this point of time, Intel SSDs are the most reliable.

SSDs are still not really worth it for economical storage. You can get a SSD to be your bootup OS drive, but I still don't see the value in lightning fast read/write speeds at such a premium.

 

[vamjok]

I have heard that at this point of time, Intel SSDs are the most reliable.

SSDs are still not really worth it for economical storage. You can get a SSD to be your bootup OS drive, but I still don't see the value in lightning fast read/write speeds at such a premium.

TRUST ME, i am on SSD (i had max my ram to 8 gig as well). once u used it you will never look back. Cold start up takes only about 20 secs to be fully operational. The speed of reading and opening application is near instant. The response is very fast and i really enjoyed the experience of using it. The -ve side of it? You will never be able to get used to others laptop or PC.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

TRUST ME, i am on SSD (i had max my ram to 8 gig as well). once u used it you will never look back. Cold start up takes only about 20 secs to be fully operational. The speed of reading and opening application is near instant. The response is very fast and i really enjoyed the experience of using it. The -ve side of it? You will never be able to get used to others laptop or PC.

what sort of ssd are you using? I'm using a gskill phoenix pro ssd. Does using windows over time slow it down?

 

[johnny333]

ah you have old version of chipset, so just avoid the fastest ssd like ocz vertex 3 etc. looking at your motherboard, i dun think you are buying vertex 3, so just buy the cheap ssd and you will be fine.

even if you can afford to buy the fastest ssd now, it will not be running full speed on your puny motherboard. so basically waste of money.

the problem with bsod, is that only intel sata3 are good enough for fastest ssd, some motherboard have non intel sata3 and was not tested with high speed ssd so unable to cope with the amazing speed.

The chipset might be old by today's standards but I did pay a little more for the then newer Marvelll PCIE controller which supports 6.0GB.

I'm limiting my selection to Intel & maybe Crucial because people are claiming they are more reliable. However when I read the reviews at newegg, people are claiming "reliability" problems even with Intel products:(
http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=119&name=SSD

While looking at Intel, there is also the issue between the older 320 or newer 510 which supports the faster transfer rate of 6GB. Reliability is more important than speed but in future I will be getting an upgraded mother board AND probably a Macpro Notebook & may decide to re-use the SSD drive. That's what I have been doing with my WD Veloci Raptor Drive:o

 

[vamjok]

what sort of ssd are you using? I'm using a gskill phoenix pro ssd. Does using windows over time slow it down?

vortex 2. no mine is fine,use for about a year now. those i heard slow down over time are the real cheap first gen SSD.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

vortex 2. no mine is fine,use for about a year now. those i heard slow down over time are the real cheap first gen SSD.

I mean windows clutter slows down the loading up time for eg.

There's some ssds that uses the mobo's pci express slot rather than the sata ports which makes it really fast. I think sata 3 might be as fast or probably slower i'm not sure. my mobo still using sata 2 anyway.

do you mean vertex 2? ocz makes pci-express slot ssds.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

I think this might be the fastest ssd out there the revodrive. Anything faster than this?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/ocz-revodrive-x2-pci-express-ssd.html

 

[johnny333]

I think you either mixed up yr RAM with 1990's computer or you are joking?

4GB or 4MB that is 1024X diff OK stop confusing me can?

I started using computers back in the 70's, back then it was 4kb Sometimes have to look at the specs to remind myself whether it's MB or GB:o

 

[vamjok]

I mean windows clutter slows down the loading up time for eg.

There's some ssds that uses the mobo's pci express slot rather than the sata ports which makes it really fast. I think sata 3 might be as fast or probably slower i'm not sure. my mobo still using sata 2 anyway.

do you mean vertex 2? ocz makes pci-express slot ssds.

me is labtop sata 2. yap u are right vertex 2 ocz.no i do not have such issue. initially i do have problem with window crashing for no reason. but that is because i did not update the firmware or something on the ssd drive. went to the website update the driver/firmware and all the problem solved.

i did heard abt the PCI SSD recently and i did read b4 its even faster, however no first hand experience on it.

 

[johnny333]

I have heard that at this point of time, Intel SSDs are the most reliable.

SSDs are still not really worth it for economical storage. You can get a SSD to be your bootup OS drive, but I still don't see the value in lightning fast read/write speeds at such a premium.

It will take a couple of years before the technology becomes "more" affordable & reliable, but by then there might be something even faster & more expensive.

I haven't upgraded my HDD in years & actually re-using one from another machine. Instead of getting a newer humungous HDD for space I don't need, might as well get a faster SSD which uses less power. On any given day I power off/on quite often to save electricity. With an SSD dive I won't have to wait for the boot up time.

 

[Leongsam]

I recently upgraded to Windows 7
Would be interested in hearing people's opinion

Windoze 7 is an "upgrade"???

That's like saying "I've upgraded from a bicycle to a bullock cart.".

 

[halsey02]

I started using computers back in the 70's, back then it was 4kb Sometimes have to look at the specs to remind myself whether it's MB or GB:o

It was Intel 8088, you have 512KB ram, you are king of the hill, you have two FDD, one to load your OS & boot & the other to load your application.

Back then, it was Lotus 1 2 3 for spreadsheet, & my favourite word processor that runs on a 3.5" floppy, Display Rite. MacAfee & Norton Untilies were hot pirated software. This was before the advent of graphic programs.

The command prompt was c:\ remember? was learning SCO Unix then & the rudimentary 'internet', where users can connect to a network & send messages to each other. In my course of work, used a couple of OS other than Microsoft DOS, DAC, IBM etc & then there was CP/M etc

It was you have check wether your computer have the processing or memory power to run the programs. Then came the Macintosh....only the marketing people have that & the rest judt drool over the GUI & we were still in DOS, was that 4.0 or 5.0 at that time.

SSD drives, are flash drives, if you computer does the 'pop' & especially WINDOWS OS, who after a while becomes Bloated & will start crashing, ( even Win 7 crashes), one have to back up or your SSD on a daily basis, especially your work, every hour if possible.

The question I want to ask is, can we recover a SSD drive, when it crashes? just want to know, what is the opinion on this? I have asked the techicians, they say no!

 

[Froggy]

Just reminded that I used to use a Bernoulli drive in the 80s and those days damn proud of it. Anyone use this before? If I'm not wrong each drive that I had was only 20Mb max.

 

[Microsoft]

I started off with Corsair Force 3...but dunno y...no matter how i try...it neber work with my system (2600k with Giga Z68X) ...constant bsod...den eberyting fine when i exchange it for OCZ Vertex 3...ssd...when it working fine it rock...when it having problem u get bigger nitemare...but still quite worth it becoz of de speed...

Dunno bout de crash recover...coz i oni put os and application prog inside...all data in another HD...games in another...

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

I just use acronis to make an image of my OS and that's it. I can restore it.

Oh yes ssd performance drops over time. Cos of the clutter from del and moving files and windows creates lots of junk files and so on. Therefore to get back brand new perfoarmance i image my os and then wipe ssd clean then restore it.

 

[johnny333]

It was Intel 8088, you have 512KB ram, you are king of the hill, you have two FDD, one to load your OS & boot & the other to load your application.

Back then, it was Lotus 1 2 3 for spreadsheet, & my favourite word processor that runs on a 3.5" floppy, Display Rite. MacAfee & Norton Untilies were hot pirated software. This was before the advent of graphic programs.

The command prompt was c:\ remember? was learning SCO Unix then & the rudimentary 'internet', where users can connect to a network & send messages to each other. In my course of work, used a couple of OS other than Microsoft DOS, DAC, IBM etc & then there was CP/M etc

It was you have check wether your computer have the processing or memory power to run the programs. Then came the Macintosh....only the marketing people have that & the rest judt drool over the GUI & we were still in DOS, was that 4.0 or 5.0 at that time.

SSD drives, are flash drives, if you computer does the 'pop' & especially WINDOWS OS, who after a while becomes Bloated & will start crashing, ( even Win 7 crashes), one have to back up or your SSD on a daily basis, especially your work, every hour if possible.

The question I want to ask is, can we recover a SSD drive, when it crashes? just want to know, what is the opinion on this? I have asked the techicians, they say no!

IBM system appeared in 1981 it was an improvement to the systems that predate it, the Commodore PET, Apple II & TRS80. I remember that the TRS80 was sold by OG Dept Store Just imagine the kind of after sales service you get from a department store Back then I remember that many of the computer stores were located at Peoples Park.

I thought Win 7 supports TRIM which takes care of levelling & garbage collection? Many suggest using dual storage system using an SSD & HDD. The SSD is for the system and application files, while the HDD for the data files.
For the Mac I think there are fewer problems if you use Apple certified SSDs: Samsung & Toshiba SSDs.

 

[johnny333]

I just use acronis to make an image of my OS and that's it. I can restore it.

Oh yes ssd performance drops over time. Cos of the clutter from del and moving files and windows creates lots of junk files and so on. Therefore to get back brand new perfoarmance i image my os and then wipe ssd clean then restore it.

Do you face performance degradation with Win 7 I though Win 7 includes TRIM? Have you tried reformatting the SSD, does it improve the performance?