Nicole Seah Funding Donation Issue

[kukubird58]

You guys are barking up the wrong tree. Let me offer you some help from the "other side".

hahaha...GMS is also in this forum.
if what you say is correct....why can't the clown clarify???
fxxking useless leader NSP has.

 

[LeMans2011]

When Nicole Seah first rose to prominence, her likes shot to the sky and she became the most "liked" politician overnight. After all the euphoria, when reality sets in... ok the gal needs to clear the bills. She did what is perfectly legal, unfortunately not popular.

Jesus Christ, look at the barrage of accusations hurled at her... Sinkies are already assuming her "ill intent" or as if charging her as GUILTY of misappropriating funds. She stated the account is set up for this purpose and the bank statements as well as all information will be make available, what else do you expect??? GMS should just come out to stand by his party member for doing what is perfectly legal.

Looking at the condemnation on yahoo against her... i feel aggrieved for her. Looking at the condemnation by some members of the forum (including one or two who was obssessed with her), i feel sick in the stomach.

Chao Sinkies... Nicole is gone... you can have more of PAP come next election. I bet you are already satisfied with the PAP's reactions after the elections. Good luck to you.

 

[LeMans2011]

You guys are barking up the wrong tree. Let me offer you some help from the "other side".

It's not an issue of control over the NSP accounts. NS asked for cheques to be made in NSP's name and sent to her. That is because she can easily identify who donated to her campaign. However, for bank transfers and cash deposits, there is no way (or she's worried about confusion) about what the money was intended for. So she asked for the money to be deposited into her account which she would then deposit into NSP's account.

Cas888... i forgive you for all your sins... you have done good today.

 

[LeMans2011]

If you had followed the GE close enough, you would have known she lives in Tampines. And yes, she is old enough to sign a legal contract, old enough to have a baby if she choose to.

I had said it, I say it again. Bad move!

And when this thing turn to shit and hit the fan, guess how the Indian TS will change the lyrics, the tune and the whole fucking language of the song?

That is not a true fan then. A true fan believes in his idol, stands by his idol, helps his idol.

 

[Amakusa Kourin]

hahaha...GMS is also in this forum.
if what you say is correct....why can't the clown clarify???
fxxking useless leader NSP has.

A bit too harsh on him la. He got the spirit but he is not too bright.

 

[kingrant]

But this part will still bring her back to Square One., isnt it?

However, for bank transfers and cash deposits, there is no way (or she's worried about confusion) about what the money was intended for. So she asked for the money to be deposited into her account which she would then deposit into NSP's account.

 

[kukubird58]

A bit too harsh on him la. He got the spirit but he is not too bright.

hahaha...yes i am harsh.....but can't he (GMS) just clarify and leaves no room for speculations
which is bad for NS..
anyway from what i read so far, Cass's version is not correct; different from what GMS and NS had said so far.
the money is intended to pay off for the expenses in MP and excess will be used for community social works
and the account will be closed.

 

[cass888]

But this part will still bring her back to Square One., isnt it?

You don't get it. It's not that she doesn't trust NSP. It's a question of identifying what are general donations and what are specific donations to her campaign account.

Therefore cheques can be made out to NSP because when she deposits the cheque or if they send it to NSP they'll write "For Nicole Seah" behind. When the cheque is banked in, her campaign account will be properly credited.

Same thing for money sent to her account. She will then probably bank in the amounts individually to NSP for her campaign account and credit the donation to the people who made the donation.

 

[kingrant]

I understand what you said. I am just going by what you said - that when they are bank transfers and cash deposits, she can't tell which is for what. That means it will be up to her and that is messy, in the eyes of the public.

You don't get it. It's not that she doesn't trust NSP. It's a question of identifying what are general donations and what are specific donations to her campaign account.

Therefore cheques can be made out to NSP because when she deposits the cheque or if they send it to NSP they'll write "For Nicole Seah" behind. When the cheque is banked in, her campaign account will be properly credited.

Same thing for money sent to her account. She will then probably bank in the amounts individually to NSP for her campaign account and credit the donation to the people who made the donation.

 

[cass888]

I understand what you said. I am just going by what you said - that when they are bank transfers and cash deposits, she can't tell which is for what. That means it will be up to her and that is messy, in the eyes of the public.

I guess she will assume that bank transfers to her account which she bank into the NSP account will be assumed to be for the Nicole Seah (or Marine Parade GRC) campaign account.

But I agree with you it is messy. More importantly, she can't tell which is from who. And if suddenly there is a deposit from US or from UAE, she will be royally screwed.

I do not smell dishonesty. But politically it does project the wrong image.

 

[kingrant]

Yes, as the saying goes, whatever done must not only be just but seen to be so.

I guess she will assume that bank transfers to her account which she bank into the NSP account will be assumed to be for the Nicole Seah (or Marine Parade GRC) campaign account.

But I agree with you it is messy. More importantly, she can't tell which is from who. And if suddenly there is a deposit from US or from UAE, she will be royally screwed.

I do not smell dishonesty. But politically it does project the wrong image.

 

[Amakusa Kourin]

hahaha...yes i am harsh.....but can't he (GMS) just clarify and leaves no room for speculations
which is bad for NS..
anyway from what i read so far, Cass's version is not correct; different from what GMS and NS had said so far.
the money is intended to pay off for the expenses in MP and excess will be used for community social works
and the account will be closed.

yup i agree, it looks bloody messy and the intention (from outside) makes NS look like some 'schemer'.
GMS is just simply too lenient and loose for a Sec-Gen. Low and Chiam will have given NS a bloody nose for doing that.

 

[cass888]

yup i agree, it looks bloody messy and the intention (from outside) makes NS look like some 'schemer'.
GMS is just simply too lenient and loose for a Sec-Gen. Low and Chiam will have given NS a bloody nose for doing that.

Give Generalissimo (minus 10 ranks) Goh Meng Seng a break. His Sec Gen title doesn't make him the boss because in NSP the President is the boss.

 

[Amakusa Kourin]

Give Generalissimo (minus 10 ranks) Goh Meng Seng a break. His Sec Gen title doesn't make him the boss because in NSP the President is the boss.

I have always thought that Sec-Gen is the big boss?
Ready to stand corrected.

I am not doubting his commitment but he should rein in the members as a Sec-Gen.

 

[cass888]

I have always thought that Sec-Gen is the big boss?
Ready to stand corrected.

I am not doubting his commitment but he should rein in the members as a Sec-Gen.

For all the other parties, Sec Gen is big boss. NSP got a President, not Chairman and the President is the big boss.

 

[Amakusa Kourin]

For all the other parties, Sec Gen is big boss. NSP got a President, not Chairman and the President is the big boss.

Thanks for the information. That cleared things up.
But really, NSP needs these 5 years to organise themselves.

 

[kukubird58]

For all the other parties, Sec Gen is big boss. NSP got a President, not Chairman and the President is the big boss.

hahaha...GMS...we know you are in this forum.
no clowning around for once.... pse clarify leh.

 

[cass888]

hahaha...GMS...we know you are in this forum.
no clowning around for once.... pse clarify leh.

SLTC (minus 3 ranks) Goh Meng Seng already admitted on this forum that President got more power but he claims they "share power" wor.

 

[Amakusa Kourin]

SLTC (minus 3 ranks) Goh Meng Seng already admitted on this forum that President got more power but he claims they "share power" wor.

Sounds really disorganized. An organization cannot have more than one leader.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Dear All,

Thank you for all the concerns raised here. I apologize for the great confusion and anxiety caused by this episode.

Under the Political Donation Act, it is LEGAL for candidates to solicit donations under their names. Thus what Nicole has done is legal. The main concern is why personal bank account has been used instead of Party bank account. First of all, Nicole is soliciting funds for her candidacy in Marine Parade. She is also trying to get funding for her whole Marine Parade Team. Thus, it would be technically tedious for us to differentiate between funding meant for Marine Parade Team if donations are made to the Party bank account. Besides, financial reporting for the Party will be very complex if every Teams or individual candidates utilize the Party bank account for their fund raising activities.

I believe that those who have donated to Nicole or any other opposition members would have full confidence and trust in them to utilize the funds solely for the GE only. Having said that, I also understand the demand for transparency from the public on the fund raised. Rest be assured that due diligence will be carried out by the whole Marine Parade Team since the fund raised is intended to defray the cost of its election campaign.

As I have mentioned before to the press, young people are using the New Media more often and it will become a trend for them to utilize New Media for their political work and engagement which will include soliciting political donations. It is unfortunate that this present issue was blown out of proportion due to the utilization of the New Media. On hindsight, it could have been managed better.

Nevertheless, I have full confidence in Nicole and her Marine Parade Team in managing public funding properly. The stakeholders who have contributed money to their funds have the right to know how the funds have been utilized. This is a matter of transparency. This can be done by sending them the details via emails.

However, I think it is totally inappropriate for the members of public to insinuate corrupt practices, intent or misconduct with regards to this issue. It would be unfair to Nicole and her team to suggest that because they have acted within the legal limits. Unless there is any proof of misappropriation of funds, I think such slander is totally unwarranted. I hope the members of public should refrain from making such insinuations.

I think that this issue would be a good public education process for both politicians as well as Singaporeans. Singaporeans may not be used to politicians soliciting funds under their names but this is perfectly legal for candidates to do so, just as any other democratic countries in the world (US, Europe countries etc). On the other hand, politicians have to be mindful about perceptions of the public as well as the transparency of the whole fund raising exercise.

To conclude, I hope that Singaporeans could bear with us while we move on to a more open society. It is perfectly healthy for Singaporeans to raise their concerns on transparency and accountability when such public donations are involved. But I hope that my explanations and clarifications here could address their concerns adequately.

Yours Sincerely ,

Goh Meng Seng