PAP still hasn't learn, roll out crap Cabinet that makes no sense

[Papsmearer]

People are looking to see if there are real attitude changes within the PAP. They want to know that the PAP will address some of the problems they perceive, like for example the high minister salaries. Nothing has changed there, lackeys are still feeding at the public trough.

1) Tharm gets 3 ministerial positions? Shit, someone should enter him in the Guiness Book of Records for holding the most ministerial positions in the history of a democratic govt. He gets DPM, Minister of Finance and Minister of Manpower. Can we say jack of all trades, master of none. Is the PAP so short of talent that they cannot find capable people to separately run these ministries? Exactly what has Tharm done in his prior job that makes us believe that he can hold down 3 ministerial positions at one time? I can see him holding the Finance portfolio, but Manpower too? He is going to get rich from the 3 paychecks.

2) After all these years, Gay Loong still can't run the place without 5 other ministers in his office? I was looking for him to cut out at least 4 positions in the PMO, and just have one DPM to help him. Instead, he has added one more person. Are they there to make coffee for him or carry his testicles or what?
DPMs X 2 = Tharm and Teo
Minister in the PMO X 2= Lim Swee Say, and Iswaran
Minister of state, PMO = Heng Chee How

3) Appointing people who have no background in their ministry at all seems to be the norm now. Tharm knows something about Manpower? Teo knows something about Home Affairs? Lim Hng Kiang has been recycled so any times, first Minister in the PMO, than Minister of Health, than MND, and now MITI minister? Is he so bad that they just keep moving him aroun instead of letting him go? Bargain Hen, a medical doctor by profession is now Minsiter of defence? Wow, how did that happen. Gan Kim Yong, a trained engineer and former CEO of Natsteel is now Minister for Health? WTF. Why don't u just stick bargain Hen there?

4) What's with people that we have never heard of just a few months ago becoming ministers all of a sudden. I mean these are rookie 9 day old MPs, all of a sudeen can become ministers? What ever became of them having to prove they can serve their constituents first before they can serve the whole country as ministers? Did they miss out a few steps and just pass go and go straight to the minister level? That's just ludicrous.
eg Chan Chin SIng now holds 2 ministerial portfolios after just 9 days in politics? Acting MCYS minister and Minister of state for MICA.
Newbie Heng Swee Keat, this guy has everything to do with money, being ex-MAS chair, perm sec for MITI, etc, but they don't put him in Finance, they stick him in education.
SAme for BGTan, now minister of state for MOM and MND after 9 days in politics too. The list goes on.

How can sinkies still trust this govt. after all these nonsensical appointments. Gay Loong wants to listen to the people? Well the people are telling him to save money and don't need so many damn ministers at multi-million $ a piece. They want him to appoint competent ministers with proven backgrounds in their areas of expertise to run the relevant ministries so that their lives can improve. Poeple want ministerial appointments to make sense.

 

[glockman]

Good write up.

I find this line-up a joke too, very insulting to the pple of Spore. They are in damage control mode, which is a situation that they (being the high and mighty) have never been in before. And are simply throwing whatever "talent" they have to the forefront. LHL thinks we will be placated because he fired those three assholes who were responsible for making our lives hell. But he failed to understand that his choice for new office holders will anger Sporeans more!

I won't be too off the mark when I say that NOTHING the pap does now, will win the pple's hearts and minds again. They are in decline, and I hope LKY lives long enough to see that reality.

 

[Forvendet]

I wonder why are there're still people who think there's double or triple pay for two or three portfolios or public office positions? It has been only the one highest positioned pay all along since time immemorial. Otherwise, some of the multi-ministry Ministers or even MOS are paid more than the PM or even the President. When we oppose PAP, oppose with commonsense or even better, with facts.

 

[LeMans2011]

It goes to show the main purpose of this reshuffling is for show. Get rid of the 2 party liabilities MBT and WKS... win back 10% votes from shallow Sinkies who think this is "wow... PAP reform... the PM listens to our voices"... in the first place does anyone seriously believe those are MBT's policies? No policy is a policy unless backed by Mr Lee! Nothing changed.

 

[kingrant]

Goh Keng Swee had done it before, so not an historical record.

1) Tharm gets 3 ministerial positions? Shit, someone should enter him in the Guiness Book of Records for holding the most ministerial positions in the history of a democratic govt. He gets DPM, Minister of Finance and Minister of Manpower.

 

[Bigfuck]

"BGTan, now minister of state for MOM and MND"

If he has access to the data for both ministries, his eyes will pop up and his balls will drop. And then he will have a tough decision to make or, just see no evil and hear no evil.

 

[Kid278]

People are looking to see if there are real attitude changes within the PAP. They want to know that the PAP will address some of the problems they perceive, like for example the high minister salaries. Nothing has changed there, lackeys are still feeding at the public trough...........How can sinkies still trust this govt. after all these nonsensical appointments. Gay Loong wants to listen to the people? Well the people are telling him to save money and don't need so many damn ministers at multi-million $ a piece. They want him to appoint competent ministers with proven backgrounds in their areas of expertise to run the relevant ministries so that their lives can improve. Poeple want ministerial appointments to make sense.

They said they've heard people wants reform, they sat down and talk about transform but somewhere somehow they got lost again and came out with perform. This is a cabinet so lost and it's a closet full of bugs.

 

[Papsmearer]

I wonder why are there're still people who think there's double or triple pay for two or three portfolios or public office positions? It has been only the one highest positioned pay all along since time immemorial. Otherwise, some of the multi-ministry Ministers or even MOS are paid more than the PM or even the President. When we oppose PAP, oppose with commonsense or even better, with facts.

The way the minister pay works when one of them is holding multi portfolio is that the ministries that he helms are supposed to get together and determine how much of his time he worked in each ministry during the year, and than apportion his pay accordingly. e.g lets say Tharm during the year spend 1/3 of his time in each portfolio, and that his salary at the highest is $3 million, than each ministry is supposed to pay him $1 million salary from their budget.

The problem with this method is that who is to say how much time he spend doing what? If Tharm says he spend 90% of his time doing Finance, the ministry dares to deny it and say no, he spend more time in the PMO than he did with them? Also, the way that it is set up is that we essentially have a part time minister in Finance and MOM. The actual divvying up of the salaries have never been publicly revealed in the past. That is why I suspect that it has not been split at all. Each ministry just quietly pays the minister his full salary and shut up and don't rock the boat. Just ask yourself, if Tharm is spendinf 75% of the time in MOF, 20% in MOM, and 5% in PMO, than it begs the question of why we need him in MOM, and should'nt MOM deserve a full time minister?

 

[Papsmearer]

Goh Keng Swee had done it before, so not an historical record.

As far as I know, Keng Swee never held 3 positions, max. 2. He was 2 DPM, and either Minister for Education or 3rd Minister for Defence. If any bros care to elaborate, please do so.

 

[Papsmearer]

Good write up.

I find this line-up a joke too, very insulting to the pple of Spore. They are in damage control mode, which is a situation that they (being the high and mighty) have never been in before. And are simply throwing whatever "talent" they have to the forefront. LHL thinks we will be placated because he fired those three assholes who were responsible for making our lives hell. But he failed to understand that his choice for new office holders will anger Sporeans more!

I won't be too off the mark when I say that NOTHING the pap does now, will win the pple's hearts and minds again. They are in decline, and I hope LKY lives long enough to see that reality.

It seems that Gay Loong still cannot cut these 2 oldies Wooden and Old Goat loose. What is this Emeritus SM position? Is the cabinet a University now? And the main thing is what are they paying Wooden to be Emeritus SM? Lets see the costs to the taxpayer. Gay Loong wants to be open, well, what is the pay for SM Emeritus, Senior adviser to MAS, senior adviser to GIC.

 

[Einfield]

Minister in the PM office is a bloody joke, this is not even a real job.

Having Back door MP appointed Minister is a Joke

Having new citizen, first time MP hiding under GRC who did not serve NS and converted to New Citizen just 2 years ago appointed Minister is also a Joke

The whole system is a bloody joke.

 

[Papsmearer]

Minister in the PM office is a bloody joke, this is not even a real job.

Having Back door MP appointed Minister is a Joke

Having new citizen, first time MP hiding under GRC who did not serve NS and converted to New Citizen just 2 years ago appointed Minister is also a Joke

The whole system is a bloody joke.

Any real sinkie who is not lazy, uses his brains a little can figure out what u just said. These buggers claim to be serious about listening to the people, and than the next minute pull this kind of shit.

 

[tonychat]

Any real sinkie who is not lazy, uses his brains a little can figure out what u just said. These buggers claim to be serious about listening to the people, and than the next minute pull this kind of shit.

The problem with sinkies is that even if they are not lazy, they cannot even tell any difference. They are just so politically dumb.

 

[SIFU]

The problem with sinkies is that even if they are not lazy, they cannot even tell any difference. They are just so politically dumb.

CB kia tonychat,

you are the dumbest ever for not being to tell the difference between your thai ladyboy wife from a real woman.

 

[ahpong]

It goes to show the main purpose of this reshuffling is for show. Get rid of the 2 party liabilities MBT and WKS... win back 10% votes from shallow Sinkies who think this is "wow... PAP reform... the PM listens to our voices"... in the first place does anyone seriously believe those are MBT's policies? No policy is a policy unless backed by Mr Lee! Nothing changed.

The script is the same, the director is the same, only the actors switch roles. The outcome will still be the same.

As long as the MIW runs the country as a business and not a country, it will be business as usual.

 

[Papsmearer]

The script is the same, the director is the same, only the actors switch roles. The outcome will still be the same.

As long as the MIW runs the country as a business and not a country, it will be business as usual.

Yah, that is good analogy. Never mind, let them carry on like this, and they will be punished at the next GE even more severely.

 

[Papsmearer]

The problem with sinkies is that even if they are not lazy, they cannot even tell any difference. They are just so politically dumb.

Yes, u have a point, even I have a hard time explaining to my friends who are educated uni grads.

 

[Seee3]

One of the public outcries in the GE is Ministers' pay. Unlikely they will cut their own pay. To circumvent the issue, a common practice is to assign (on paper) to each person, as many jobs as possible. It will then make to appear that the pay is fair as each individual is loaded with so many portfolios.

 

[saratogas]

At the very least... They tried to cut down on expenses and payroll $$$ from 21 ministers to 14...

 

[tonychat]

Yes, u have a point, even I have a hard time explaining to my friends who are educated uni grads.

Frankly speaking, those local sinkie uni grads or whatever you call them are totally over rated locally.

I do not see what is the fuss about them, only PAP and their sinkie ball-lickers talks about them. How many comes creative enough to start something on their own.