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Japanese economy after this disaster

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While the damage of this earthquake is still being assessed, some are already comparing it to WW2. The wild card now is the potential nuclear meltdown. It could affect the entire country and region. Economists also sited the effect on the Japanese economy after Kobe 95. It compounded the country's 20 year recession.
 

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Regionally it could a game changer for Asia relations. The americans helped japan rebuild the country after dropping the A bomb on them in 1945. In years to come, the japanese became a loyal supporter and military outpost in east asia.

If china lends them a helping hand to rebuild, could this lead to warmer sino-jap relations?
 

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Regionally it could a game changer for Asia relations. The americans helped japan rebuild the country after dropping the A bomb on them in 1945. In years to come, the japanese became a loyal supporter and military outpost in east asia.

If china lends them a helping hand to rebuild, could this lead to warmer sino-jap relations?

china is not gonna provide much help. it's a very selfish country.
 

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Japan shuts down as economic fears grow
by James Quinn and Jamie Dunkley - Telegraph
Japan's giant car industry has announced a major shutdown as fears grow over the economic impact of Friday’s devastating earthquake and subsequent tsunami which has crippled much of the north-east of the country.

The three largest motor manufacturers – Toyota, Honda and Nissan – said they would stop production at almost all of their domestic assembly plants. The safety of the workforce and deaths were cited as reasons behind the decision. The electronics giant Sony also said it would be shutting down production. Gerard Lyons, chief economist at Standard Chartered, warned of possible temporary price stagflation and an initial downward move for the country’s economy. "The timing of the disaster could not have been much worse," admitted analysts at Capital Economics, pointing to Japan’s economic contraction in the last three months of 2010.

The disaster forced the Bank of Japan (BoJ) to issue a statement, as it draws up plans for an emergency "quake budget". The BoJ said: "The bank will continue to do its utmost, including the provision of liquidity, to ensure stability in financial markets and to secure the smooth settlement of funds, in the coming week." Naoto Kan, the Japanese prime minister, asked BoJ to "save the country" after politicians from both sides of the political spectrum agreed on the need for the budget to introduce emergency spending to fund rescue and clean-up efforts and to resuscitate the economy.

Economists warned that the closures staged by the motor and electronics companies could be the tip of the iceberg, with other parts of industry likely to feel knock-on effects in the coming days. "Temporary closures of factories and oil refineries and the shutting down of power stations are likely to affect output throughout the country," said Wolfgang Leim of Commerzbank. "Economic output may therefore shrink again slightly in the first quarter."

Between them the three car companies closed 22 assembly plants, while Sony halted production at six of its domestic plants, including a Blu-ray factory where more than 1,000 workers were stranded yesterday. The closures are likely to damage Japan’s exports in the coming months, driving down economic growth yet further. "It is tough to know the extent of the damage and, therefore, also the cost," said Jim O’Neill, chairman of Goldman Sachs Asset Management. "Most of Japan’s recovery is driven by exports so the key is to make sure the yen doesn’t strengthen ."

Mr Lyons pointed out that after the Kobe earthquake in 1995 – which was in an economically more important region – the economy followed a V-shape performance curve, with an initial surge downward but with a strong rebound as policy stimulus and private spending returned.

Meanwhile, insurance analysts estimated that the earthquake could cost the global industry up to $10bn (£6.2bn). Although the Japanese insurance market is large, the amount of businesses and households that take out insurance cover is smaller than in Western markets, according to Risk Management Solutions. Most of the insured losses will be absorbed by global reinsurers such as Munich Re and Swiss Re, although companies operating in the Lloyd’s of London market will also suffer.
 

eatshitndie

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If they see a long term gain, why not? America did the same for post WW2 japan and reaped big rewards.

for china, there's no patience and generosity to help another neighbor unless there is something in it short term for themselves, such as raw materials, fuel or precious metals. Japan has mostly human resources, and china already is bursting at the seams with exactly that, albeit at lower quality. china needs to look further ahead to establish good neighborliness and long term strategic needs, but history is not on her side. she consistently screws her buffer states and disrespects her neighbors to the point of absolute arrogance in strength and envious annoyance in weakness. she just needs to offer full hearted assistance without any strings attached.
 

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for china, there's no patience and generosity to help another neighbor unless there is something in it short term for themselves, such as raw materials, fuel or precious metals. Japan has mostly human resources, and china already is bursting at the seams with exactly that, albeit at lower quality. china needs to look further ahead to establish good neighborliness and long term strategic needs, but history is not on her side. she consistently screws her buffer states and disrespects her neighbors to the point of absolute arrogance in strength and envious annoyance in weakness. she just needs to offer full hearted assistance without any strings attached.

Time for China to reclaim Japan as Japan tried to invade China in the 1900s. Japan is finish and we shd expect the Yen to fall holiday to Japan will become affordable. Japanese chio bu like to fuck, do you know that?
 

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Insurance company will suffer great lost. It will cost at least US$10b for insurance only. Those not insure maybe up to 3 times.
Not included facility like water/road/school/......................
 

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Even within Tokyo itself, not everything is running at 100%. I just heard from my Colleague that not all the local trains in Tokyo city are running right now
 

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Even within Tokyo itself, not everything is running at 100%. I just heard from my Colleague that not all the local trains in Tokyo city are running right now

Power/electricity not enough so have to cut back on train and shutdown major manufacturing plant. Almost 50% nuclear power shutdown. Imagine nearly or about 10Gw capacity gone just like that. Enough to power 2 times the Singapore consumption.
 

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lianbeng wonders will the YEN become banana leaf and all those jap products become very dirt-cheap?:confused:
if yes then maybe can start buying lots of jap products eg tv, hi-fi sets, computers, jap porn mags n AV, etc... :biggrin:
 

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Just another kobe?

Bigger than KOBE

lianbeng wonders will the YEN become banana leaf and all those jap products become very dirt-cheap?:confused:
if yes then maybe can start buying lots of jap products eg tv, hi-fi sets, computers, jap porn mags n AV, etc... :biggrin:

No. That will not happen 100% sure. Price will not drop. Japan manufacturing plant stop production now due to the damage and electricity shortage. It will cause supply down and when all start to rebuild more demand like car/electrical......in local Japan will up.
So stop dreaming. 1st few month we can see economy down but after month expect increase by 3~5%. Construction company will gain a lot due to reconstruction/rebuild.
The only thing will bring down Japan economy is ageing population and it will drain gov coffer. Because of the benefit provided by govern to theirs citizen.
 

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for china, there's no patience and generosity to help another neighbor unless there is something in it short term for themselves, such as raw materials, fuel or precious metals. Japan has mostly human resources, and china already is bursting at the seams with exactly that, albeit at lower quality. china needs to look further ahead to establish good neighborliness and long term strategic needs, but history is not on her side. she consistently screws her buffer states and disrespects her neighbors to the point of absolute arrogance in strength and envious annoyance in weakness. she just needs to offer full hearted assistance without any strings attached.


Re: "...she consistently screws her buffer states...." That is absolutely correct, brother. But more than that, she will consistently try to screw every state......will consistently try to screw the whole world. Leopard can never change its spots. Nigger can never change his Blackness. CCP can never change its treachery.
 

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Time for China to reclaim Japan as Japan tried to invade China in the 1900s. Japan is finish and we shd expect the Yen to fall holiday to Japan will become affordable. Japanese chio bu like to fuck, do you know that?

Why should China reclaim japan when japan was never part of the Chinese?

Do take note that a vassal state is not part of the entire original state.

Tibet, for example was never part of China as Tibet was a vassal state of the old empire and was never ruled directly from China itself. the same as Korea.
 

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Do take note that a vassal state is not part of the entire original state.
Tibet, for example was never part of China as Tibet was a vassal state of the old empire and was never ruled directly from China itself. the same as Korea.


Yuan dynasty which China claimed as their dynasty ruled Tibet as a special administrative region like Hongkong today. Qing dynasty had strong control over Tibet, definitely more than a vassal state relationship.

Tibet was included in both Yuan and Qing territory maps but Korea, a vassal state was not in Qing map.
 
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Regionally it could a game changer for Asia relations. The americans helped japan rebuild the country after dropping the A bomb on them in 1945. In years to come, the japanese became a loyal supporter and military outpost in east asia.

If china lends them a helping hand to rebuild, could this lead to warmer sino-jap relations?

Interesting proposition, but I think China would not only help Japan generously but also, wage a serious war directly or otherwise against Japan as she would also the West in the future as well.
 

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Yuan dynasty which China claimed as their dynasty ruled Tibet as a special administrative region like Hongkong today. Qing dynasty had strong control over Tibet, definitely more than a vassal state relationship.

Tibet was included in both Yuan and Qing territory maps but Korea, a vassal state was not in Qing map.

Thank you for clarifying this anti-Chinese cleareyes' stupidity.
 

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Bigger than KOBE

Yes it is exponentially bigger than Kobe 16 years ago.

No. That will not happen 100% sure. Price will not drop. Japan manufacturing plant stop production now due to the damage and electricity shortage. It will cause supply down and when all start to rebuild more demand like car/electrical......in local Japan will up.

Export will be down and Import will be up. That means China production will benefit.

So stop dreaming. 1st few month we can see economy down but after month expect increase by 3~5%. Construction company will gain a lot due to reconstruction/rebuild.

So raw material commodity exporting countries like Australia and South America will benefit. Though rebuilding will will not start in the next year, stockpiling orders will start coming in. Time to buy steel and cement.

The only thing will bring down Japan economy is ageing population and it will drain gov coffer. Because of the benefit provided by govern to theirs citizen.

That is a peace time vanilla scenario.Aging population has been japan's burden for the last 20 years. Now this Sendai disaster will be a new problem to their economy.

China will be the main beneficiary for this earthquake. Yuan will go up.
 
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