AMD beats Intel again to Consumer Hex-Core!

[tun_dr_m]

I am buying and installing it this week. Sim Lim Sq had been selling Hex (6) Core CPUs of AMD, there is Hex Core Opteron (server / workstation class) since 2009, but what I am referring to right now is normal consumer class lower cost. It is only about S$50 more than the Quad (4) core.

Intel announced their Hex Core i-9 months ago but you read their official website not even launched, only engineering samples available to hardware developers. Not selling to customers.

 

[redlightmeansgo]

What wattage is it running at, and what is the heat sink issue like? AMD is famous for making stuff that heats up like fire.

Is it 32nm technology? In the PC world, Dell and several makers have already begun shipping models that run on the hexcore. Not cheap, and they are customised orders, not off the shelf.

Apple is supposed to refresh the Mac Pro and introduce a new line of hexcore enabled desktops to rival the best. The whole world is waiting with bated breath but Steve is obviously more interested in a pad at this point.

Looks like Apple is going to only sell phones for the future.

 

[tun_dr_m]

What wattage is it running at, and what is the heat sink issue like? AMD is famous for making stuff that heats up like fire.

Is it 32nm technology? In the PC world, Dell and several makers have already begun shipping models that run on the hexcore. Not cheap, and they are customised orders, not off the shelf.

Apple is supposed to refresh the Mac Pro and introduce a new line of hexcore enabled desktops to rival the best. The whole world is waiting with bated breath but Steve is obviously more interested in a pad at this point.

Looks like Apple is going to only sell phones for the future.

The heat issue was THE VERY OLD & OUTDATED wrong impression about AMD CPUs. That was during 32 bit era before even (Intel) Pentium 4 timeline. Then Intel constantly lack AMD in processor power thus need only tiny heatsink and fan. I had used and sold AMD whole life. Never had seen an overheated damaged CPU.

There were some soldered on board M-7 by PRC that had modified the heatsink spring, that will lose elasticity after 20 months or so that heatsink lost good contact w CPU. It will get the motherboard thermal shutdown. But we just bend back the springs or replace them, then OK already.



It is a just a straight physical rule about speed / power / heat. This is regardless of brand. More powerful CPUs need bigger heatsink and fan.

Most likely it is 32nm silicon, if not then will be converted to 32nm when the production facility for 32nm is ready.

 

[krafty]

but can your applications run and utilise hex core
or
how many applications you intend to run on your machine?

The most impt aspect of current processors in the market now is still the cache,it determine how fast the processor can compute the data and applications queuing to be executed.

I am buying and installing it this week. Sim Lim Sq had been selling Hex (6) Core CPUs of AMD, there is Hex Core Opteron (server / workstation class) since 2009, but what I am referring to right now is normal consumer class lower cost. It is only about S$50 more than the Quad (4) core.

Intel announced their Hex Core i-9 months ago but you read their official website not even launched, only engineering samples available to hardware developers. Not selling to customers.

 

[mortarmafia]

but can your applications run and utilise hex core
or
how many applications you intend to run on your machine?

The most impt aspect of current processors in the market now is still the cache,it determine how fast the processor can compute the data and applications queuing to be executed.

If you used proper OS like Linux you are able to take advantage of MUCH MORE THAN HEX CORE. Linux specifications support 256 CPU and over 1000 CPUs for customized editions.


http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/maximum-memory-and-cpu-limitations-for-linux-server.html

As long as your applications are compiled for multi-thread weather 2 CPUs or 256 CPUs no diff.

Supercomputers have upto 2048 CPUs running Linux.

MS of course can not lah.

 

[krafty]

Customised Linux or unix systems to utilise hundred of cores, may I know for what purpose?
Unless you probably installed such cpu on super high end servers,maybe i believe it will be useful,if not,it's not practical.

If you used proper OS like Linux you are able to take advantage of MUCH MORE THAN HEX CORE. Linux specifications support 256 CPU and over 1000 CPUs for customized editions.


http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/maximum-memory-and-cpu-limitations-for-linux-server.html

As long as your applications are compiled for multi-thread weather 2 CPUs or 256 CPUs no diff.

Supercomputers have upto 2048 CPUs running Linux.

MS of course can not lah.

 

[motormafia]

Customised Linux or unix systems to utilise hundred of cores, may I know for what purpose?
Unless you probably installed such cpu on super high end servers,maybe i believe it will be useful,if not,it's not practical.

Besides supercomputers and the like, clustering and cloud computing also involved high number of CPU cores.

http://www.google.com.sg/#hl=en&sou...=g7g-m2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=860d2b5f90a19707

 

[motormafia]

http://www.video1314.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=1240


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[krafty]

Can i ask you a question? Will you run various important applications on one super server or use number of servers to run various applications?

My point is that hundred cores are quite impractical? What if your super server break down and means all your applications will go down also...rite?

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

okay let's talk more about the home consumer.


Video editing is something that always requires good cpu computing power. The higher the speed of ur cpu and the more cores the faster your video gets edited.

I usually transcode or shrink blu ray rips so that they fit into dvd 5 or dvd 9. Using this hex core amd cpu how fast would it take to transcode videos?

 

[motormafia]

Can i ask you a question? Will you run various important applications on one super server or use number of servers to run various applications?

My point is that hundred cores are quite impractical? What if your super server break down and means all your applications will go down also...rite?

The number of core gives speed. But not necessarily to serve just a single user. There are many users running many applications on a multi-core machine.

You really don't have all the ideal choices of resources, they are not cheap you know! Clustering is the strategy that offers up time while some of the nodes / CPUs goes down, it only drop performance instead of bringing down whole thing (usually) but there is no 100% still - after spending all that huge funds.

:(

Compaq used to offer a system of 100% redundancy for failover, including power supply CPU RAM & storage. Prolian's failover series I think use some clustering internally.

 

[Watchman]

Wait for Oct core .

 

[krafty]

yes,graphic intensive applications,you will need high speed cpu,other than that, i dun think it's necessary.

okay let's talk more about the home consumer.


Video editing is something that always requires good cpu computing power. The higher the speed of ur cpu and the more cores the faster your video gets edited.

I usually transcode or shrink blu ray rips so that they fit into dvd 5 or dvd 9. Using this hex core amd cpu how fast would it take to transcode videos?

 

[krafty]

provided clustering is done in different location, what if therre is power failure in one location where clustering is done?

The number of core gives speed. But not necessarily to serve just a single user. There are many users running many applications on a multi-core machine.

You really don't have all the ideal choices of resources, they are not cheap you know! Clustering is the strategy that offers up time while some of the nodes / CPUs goes down, it only drop performance instead of bringing down whole thing (usually) but there is no 100% still - after spending all that huge funds.

:(

Compaq used to offer a system of 100% redundancy for failover, including power supply CPU RAM & storage. Prolian's failover series I think use some clustering internally.

 

[motormafia]

provided clustering is done in different location, what if therre is power failure in one location where clustering is done?

Like I said there is no 100% failsafe you can commit lots of costly resources to make things are reliable as you can afford to pay. That's all.

Power failure itself is easy enough to prevent. There are redundancy power supply units, battery UPS (with redundancy), diesel generator room and battery rooms. These days key servers and data center seldom die by power failure. But there are other causes of death.:(

 

[Watchman]

Whats is the latest cloud computing trend ?