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I asked AI whether fish balls are processed food...AI replied as follows...

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Yes, fish balls are considered processed food, often categorized as ultra-processed.

They are made from minced fish or surimi (fish paste) combined with starch, water, salt, and seasonings. These ingredients are mixed, shaped, and often boiled or fried, with some varieties containing preservatives to extend shelf life.

Key details regarding fish balls as processed food:
  • Composition: While they must contain a minimum amount of fish (often ~40-50% in certain regions), they are heavily mixed with fillers like tapioca starch.
  • Production: They undergo industrial processing, including grinding, mixing, and machine-shaping.
  • Health Impact: Due to high salt content and processing, they are often grouped with sausages and nuggets, with high consumption linked to health risks.
  • Varieties: They range from fresh, hand-made versions (less processed) to mass-produced, frozen varieties (highly processed)
 
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Singapore’s fish balls could get unhealthier in the near future​

Is it just fish meat inside this hawker staple or is there more to it? The programme Talking Point tracks down the source of a key ingredient and finds out a supply issue could erupt.
Singapore’s fish balls could get unhealthier in the near future



Cheryl Tan
Desmond Ng
Desmond Ng & Cheryl Tan

09 Mar 2020 06:30AM (Updated: 30 Dec 2022 02:40PM)

SINGAPORE: Fish balls are not only a staple in Singapore’s hawker landscape, they are also one of Singaporeans’ two most favourite processed foods, according to the first study of its kind here.

Nearly 8,000 Singaporeans ranked fish balls alongside chicken nuggets in the survey of ultra-processed foods conducted by the Singapore Management University in collaboration with the programme Talking Point.

READ: What really is in the chicken nuggets you like so much

And of all the fish that fish balls here are made from, the one that a lot of Singaporeans prefer the taste of, said Randall Ang, is itoyori (threadfin bream).

That is what goes into the fish paste, or surimi, used in the BoBo brand of fish balls produced by Ha Li Fa, where Ang is the business development director.
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His company, one of the largest among the 30-plus makers of fish balls in Singapore, imports this paste from a few countries in the region.

One of them — one of the top three sources of Singapore’s surimi — is Vietnam, which exported 9,300 tonnes of it to Singapore in 2018.

To find out what exactly goes into this paste, and why Singaporeans are so hungry for fish balls, programme host Steven Chia visited Vietnam.

What he learned was that Singaporeans’ fish balls could get unhealthier in future because of a dwindling supply of itoyori.

WATCH: What's really in my fishballs? (24:02)
THE COST OF OVERFISHING

From 2018 to last year, sales of processed meat and seafood products increased by 10 per cent at Singapore’s largest supermarket chain, FairPrice.

But in Vietnam, the fish wholesalers at Tac Cau Wharf in Kien Giang province — one of the busiest wharfs in the Mekong delta — said the haul of itoyori has dropped by about 40 per cent in the past three years.

The reason is overfishing. Over the years, fishermen had been increasing their catch to make more money, resulting in fewer fish in their waters now.

With the supply dropping, itoyori prices have increased by about 50 per cent over the past three years for Li Chuan Food Products, a fish ball and surimi factory in southern Vietnam that exports mostly to Singapore.
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It produces surimi made from pure itoyori as well as surimi that comes from a mix of different fish, which costs less.

But because it has been able to absorb the price increase by eliminating middlemen costs, said general manager Tan Han Wei, most of its exports to Singapore are still made from pure itoyori.

Other fish ball manufacturers, however, may mix other kinds of surimi with itoyori surimi or use lower-grade fish to lower the cost, he warned.

“The final step they may be (taking) would be to reduce the fish meat content,” he added. “They could be adding a bit more water … (and) starch to lower the cost.”

As the supply of itoyori continues to fall, this means a higher chance that fish balls sold in Singapore may have more mixed surimi or more starch than before.

A LOOMING ‘DISASTER’?

Currently, the amount of fish meat in Ha Li Fa’s BoBo fish balls ranges from 50 to nearly 100 per cent. Starch, water, ice and seasoning make up the rest of the fish ball.

This complies with Singapore Food Agency regulations, which state that fish balls sold here must contain at least 40 per cent fish meat.

The packaging of some of the fish balls sold in supermarkets, however, does not show the proportion of meat and type of fish used.

And the problem with fish balls that contain more starch is that they contain more carbohydrates than fish balls with 100 per cent itoyori surimi, said dietitian Jaclyn Reutens from Aptima Nutrition and Sports Consultants.

“People who are diabetic need to watch their carbohydrate and starch intake,” she noted. She is especially concerned, however, about what other additives there are inside the fish ball.

For example, one fish ball could have about 50 to 70mg of sodium, she said.

That is about 300 to 400mg of sodium from eating five to seven fish balls in one sitting, which she cautioned is a “significant” percentage of the 2,000mg of sodium a person should have a day.

Some fish ball manufacturers do add flavour enhancers like monosodium glutamate (MSG), pointed out Jerome Lim, who manages fish ball noodle chain Ming Fa Fishball. But there is no good substitute for itoyori surimi up to now, he said.

“No other fish can have the same texture,” he added, lamenting the possibility of a dwindling supply. “If that's the case, we’d have to fall back on (fish balls with more starch). Then I think there’d be a disaster.”
 
Never liked fish balls. They feel weird in the mouth (unfish like) and there's always the fear of swallowing one and then choke to death:eek: I prefer BirdsEye fish fingers. And I am dismayed to find they're considered a processed food.:cry:

ChatGPT :

Yes, Birds Eye fish fingers are considered processed food. They are made from fish (typically white fish like cod or pollock) that has been filleted, battered or breaded, and then frozen for convenience and long shelf life. During the process, the fish is often treated with additional ingredients like flour, seasoning, and preservatives. The process helps maintain the texture and flavor of the product while making it easy to prepare.

While they contain fish as the primary ingredient, the added coatings and freezing make them a form of processed food. If you're looking for less processed options, there are sometimes alternatives like fresh or frozen fish fillets without added breading or batter.
 
Never liked fish balls. They feel weird in the mouth (unfish like) and there's always the fear of swallowing one and then choke to death:eek: I prefer BirdsEye fish fingers. And I am dismayed to find they're considered a processed food.:cry:

ChatGPT :

Yes, Birds Eye fish fingers are considered processed food. They are made from fish (typically white fish like cod or pollock) that has been filleted, battered or breaded, and then frozen for convenience and long shelf life. During the process, the fish is often treated with additional ingredients like flour, seasoning, and preservatives. The process helps maintain the texture and flavor of the product while making it easy to prepare.

While they contain fish as the primary ingredient, the added coatings and freezing make them a form of processed food. If you're looking for less processed options, there are sometimes alternatives like fresh or frozen fish fillets without added breading or batter.
Birds Eye must buy Cod version not normal fish version.

Cod version:
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Fish version:
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Cod version is nicer.

Sometimes, I buy from Mark's & Spenser. Their Chu ky Breaded Cod is very good and delicious...much better than BirdsEye

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Birds Eye must buy Cod version not normal fish version.

Cod version:
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Fish version:
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Cod version is nicer.

Sometimes, I buy from Mark's & Spenser. Their Chu ky Breaded Cod is very good and delicious...much better than BirdsEye

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Birds Eye cod fish fingers are considered processed food too. Just like any fish fillets with a breaded layer. They all have added seasoning and preservatives. Looks like will need to buy fresh or frozen fish fillets, whether cold or tropical marine fish, to qualify as non-processed. I used to buy those but found them troublesome, need to add some seasoning when cooking.

ChatGPT
Yes, Birdseye cod fish fingers are considered processed food. They undergo several steps in manufacturing, such as filleting, breading, and freezing, to create the final product. While they are typically made from fish, they are still classified as processed due to the added ingredients (like breadcrumbs, seasonings, and preservatives) and the way they are prepared for convenience and long shelf life.
 
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