Serious CECA Talents really smart used Cheaper Hydrogen to fill Balloons!

[Pinkieslut]

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[syed putra]

Hydrogen not really cheap. Helium way cheaper.

 

[Leongsam]

Hydrogen not really cheap. Helium way cheaper.

You often get things seriously wrong. You need to verify your claims before you post shit.

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Hydrogen is significantly cheaper than helium in virtually all practical contexts, whether we're talking about industrial bulk prices, production costs, or market availability as of early 2026.Bulk/Industrial Production and Pricing Comparison

• Hydrogen (H₂):
  Industrial "grey" hydrogen (from natural gas without carbon capture) typically costs around $1–$2 per kg in the US, depending on natural gas prices. Blue hydrogen (with carbon capture) is roughly $1.5–$7 per kg, while green hydrogen (from renewables/electrolysis) ranges from $3–$8+ per kg currently, though it's trending downward with scale and subsidies. Retail fuel-cell vehicle prices (e.g., in California) can be much higher ($20–$30+/kg), but that's not representative of bulk industrial costs.
• Helium (He):
  Helium is far more expensive due to its rarity on Earth (mostly extracted as a byproduct of natural gas, with limited global supply and ongoing shortages). Bulk Grade-A helium prices are commonly in the range of $14–$30+ per cubic meter (often with surcharges during shortages). Converted roughly:
  • At ~$14–$65 per thousand cubic feet (common contract/spot quotes in recent years), this equates to very high per-kg or per-unit costs.
  • High-purity or liquid helium can reach $28–$92 per cubic meter or even higher during peaks, with some reports of spot prices effectively in the hundreds of dollars per thousand cubic feet.
    Helium's market has seen surges (e.g., 400%+ increases in some periods due to supply constraints and demand from tech/semiconductors/MRI).

To compare apples-to-apples on a mass basis (per kg):

• Hydrogen is orders of magnitude cheaper — often 10–100 times less expensive per kg for comparable industrial volumes.
• Helium's scarcity (non-renewable on Earth, finite extractable reserves) drives its price much higher than hydrogen (abundant, easily produced at scale from water or natural gas).

 

[Leongsam]

Helium cannot be manufactured on an industrial scale in any practical, economically viable way as of February 2026.All commercial helium supplied worldwide is extracted from natural underground sources, primarily as a byproduct of natural gas processing. Helium forms naturally through the slow radioactive decay of elements like uranium and thorium in the Earth's crust over millions of years, accumulating in certain natural gas reservoirs (typically where concentrations exceed ~0.3% for economic extraction).Why Artificial Manufacturing Isn't Feasible at Scale

• Nuclear processes (fusion or transmutation): Helium can theoretically be produced via nuclear reactions, such as:
  • Fusion (e.g., deuterium-deuterium or deuterium-tritium reactions in experimental reactors, which produce helium as output).
  • Particle accelerators or neutron bombardment to transmute other elements.However, these methods are extremely energy-intensive, require massive infrastructure (e.g., billion-dollar facilities), and yield only tiny amounts—often kilograms per year at best under optimistic scenarios. They are nowhere near cost-competitive or scalable for industrial volumes (millions of cubic meters annually needed globally).
• Other ideas (e.g., extracting trace helium from air at ~5 parts per million): This has been considered but is prohibitively expensive due to the ultra-low concentration and high energy/cryogenic requirements—far more costly than natural extraction.
• Fusion research context (e.g., companies like Helion Energy): Some advanced fusion prototypes aim to produce helium-3 (a rare isotope) as a byproduct or fuel component for future clean energy reactors. While promising for long-term energy applications, this remains experimental, not a source of bulk helium-4 (the common isotope used commercially), and is not producing industrial-scale helium for sale today.

Current Reality of Helium Supply (2026)Global production remains tied to natural gas fields in key locations:

• United States (~28% of supply, though declining due to reserve depletion).
• Qatar (~25-28%).
• Russia, Algeria, and smaller sources.Total annual production hovers around 180 million cubic meters, with demand growing (projected to rise significantly by 2030 due to semiconductors, MRI machines, aerospace, and more). Supply constraints and periodic shortages persist because helium is non-renewable on Earth—no practical way exists to "make" more at scale. Recycling (e.g., in labs or MRI facilities) and improved extraction from new high-grade deposits (like recent finds in Minnesota) help, but they don't change the fundamental limitation.

In short, helium is mined/extracted, not manufactured industrially. Any claim of artificial production at meaningful scale is either theoretical, lab-scale, or tied to future fusion tech that's decades away from contributing to commercial helium supply.

 

[Hightech88]

Hydrogen not really cheap. Helium way cheaper.

You often get things seriously wrong. You need to verify your claims before you post shit.

Looks like @syed putra Muud genes is rather strong.

 

[syed putra]

Well i was thinking about green hydrogen.

 

[k1976]

PLEASE INVITE THESE TALENTS HERE TO CREATE GOOD JOBS!

The Indian ma should fill up more balloons then he no need to use the lift mah

 

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[Leongsam]

Well i was thinking about green hydrogen.

• Green hydrogen: ~$3–$8 per kg (typical delivered/production price).
• Helium (gaseous, industrial): Hundreds to low thousands per kg equivalent.
• Result: Helium costs far more per kilogram than green hydrogen — often by 1–2 orders of magnitude for bulk uses.

Helium's high price stems from geological scarcity (extracted as a byproduct of natural gas, with depleting reserves and geopolitical supply risks), while green hydrogen's cost is driven by electricity/electrolyzer expenses but is falling rapidly with scale and renewables. Helium has no "green" substitute and faces ongoing shortages, whereas green hydrogen production is scaling aggressively.In short: Green hydrogen is much cheaper per kg than helium in 2026.

 

[cocobobo]

Hydrogen is easy to make but very difficult and expensive to transport and store, as it diffuses through almost everything. All the so-called green hydrogen projects have been cancelled by the big energy players.

So if you find cheap hydrogen on the market, some corners are being cut.

 

[laksaboy]

A fart after a heavy curry meal also achieves the same effect, but the yield might not be enough.