Shameless and hypocritical China demands UK recognise 'One China' policy while conveniently ignoring how it disregarded its legal obligations re HK

[shulingla]

 

[shulingla]

 

[shulingla]

 

[syed putra]

The legal Obligation to maintain hong kong separately with its own laws and jurisdiction was only for 20 years. That expired in 2017.

 

[shulingla]

The legal Obligation to maintain hong kong separately with its own laws and jurisdiction was only for 20 years. That expired in 2017.

The 1997 handover of Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to China was made under an agreement that promised Hong Kong a high degree of autonomy for 50 years under the "one country, two systems" principle. This 50-year period, set to conclude in 2047, was intended to preserve Hong Kong's capitalist system, independent judiciary, and freedoms of speech and assembly, which are not found in mainland China. However, China has increasingly tightened its control over Hong Kong, leading many to believe the promises have not been kept.

The Sino-British Joint Declaration and "one country, two systems"

• What it is: The 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration and the subsequent Basic Law established the framework for Hong Kong's handover.
• Key provisions: China pledged to maintain Hong Kong's autonomy for 50 years, meaning the city would keep its own economic and legal systems, as well as its human rights and freedoms.
• The 50-year promise: This period of guaranteed autonomy was to last until 2047.

Developments and tensions

• Erosion of autonomy: Over time, particularly since 2019, China has been accused of systematically dismantling these promised rights and freedoms.
• Key events: The 2019 extradition bill protests and the 2020 National Security Law are frequently cited as key moments where China's influence significantly curtailed freedoms in Hong Kong.
• Criticism: Critics argue that the National Security Law has made it easier for Beijing to clamp down on dissent, arrests, and free speech.
• Official statements: China has stated that the "one country, two systems" principle will not change after 2047.

 

[syed putra]

The 1997 handover of Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to China was made under an agreement that promised Hong Kong a high degree of autonomy for 50 years under the "one country, two systems" principle. This 50-year period, set to conclude in 2047, was intended to preserve Hong Kong's capitalist system, independent judiciary, and freedoms of speech and assembly, which are not found in mainland China. However, China has increasingly tightened its control over Hong Kong, leading many to believe the promises have not been kept.

The Sino-British Joint Declaration and "one country, two systems"

• What it is: The 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration and the subsequent Basic Law established the framework for Hong Kong's handover.
• Key provisions: China pledged to maintain Hong Kong's autonomy for 50 years, meaning the city would keep its own economic and legal systems, as well as its human rights and freedoms.
• The 50-year promise: This period of guaranteed autonomy was to last until 2047.

Developments and tensions

• Erosion of autonomy: Over time, particularly since 2019, China has been accused of systematically dismantling these promised rights and freedoms.
• Key events: The 2019 extradition bill protests and the 2020 National Security Law are frequently cited as key moments where China's influence significantly curtailed freedoms in Hong Kong.
• Criticism: Critics argue that the National Security Law has made it easier for Beijing to clamp down on dissent, arrests, and free speech.
• Official statements: China has stated that the "one country, two systems" principle will not change after 2047.

But in the UK, pensioners, farmers are detained just for protesting under starmers gomen.

 

[shulingla]

But in the UK, pensioners, farmers are detained just for protesting under starmers gomen.

No. Farmers in the UK are not being detained just for protesting simply because Keir Starmer’s government is in power. But there have been recent arrests tied to certain protests — under existing law, not a blanket “you protest = you get detained” policy.

What’s going on — facts first​

• There is a wave of protests in 2024–2025 by farmers opposing changes to inheritance-tax rules on farm assets under the Labour Party government.
• In at least one recent protest in central London (“Budget-day protest”) where farmers drove tractors despite a police ban, some people were arrested.
• The arrests are not because the protest is against Starmer per se, but because protesters broke a police restriction (the ban on tractors in certain areas).

Why it doesn’t equate to blanket “detentions for protest”​

• The arrests relate to specific police orders or public-order rules (e.g. bans on driving tractors or using heavy machinery in certain zones), not simply the act of dissent.
• The legal framework for protests was already tightened in recent years under broader legislation targeting disruptive or infrastructure-impacting demonstrations. For example, the Public Order Act 2023 allows greater police powers to restrict protests deemed disruptive.
• Many protests by farmers remain peaceful and apparently lawful and have not resulted in arrests.

Alternative perspectives / risks​

• From a civil-liberties angle: Some argue that the new protest laws give police wide discretion, which raises concerns about chilling free speech and protest rights — especially for groups like farmers, climate protesters or activists.
• From a rule-of-law angle: Others argue that if protests cross into disruption (heavy machinery, blocking roads), the state has legitimate grounds to restrict them, regardless of government composition.

Summary & What to Monitor​

• It is not correct to say UK farmers are simply being detained for protesting under Starmer.
• Arrests have occurred — but tied to specific bans or infringements (e.g. tractors in restricted zones), not the mere act of protesting government policy.
• The broader legal environment for protest has tightened (e.g. Public Order Act 2023), which increases the risk of arrests for actions viewed as disruptive.
• If you follow UK news and civil-liberties reports, keep watching whether peaceful protests increasingly get defined as “disruptive” — that may shift the baseline of what triggers detention.

 

[winnipegjets]

The British colonize HK and governed it with autocratic control. Then, before the Brits left, they gave the false hope to the Hongkees that they can have more freedom under the Chinese.
And stupid Hongkees believed it and create the chaos that forced the Chinese government to curb those illusions.
If the Hongkees behaved similarly as they had under British colonial rule, there would be no need for a strong hand approach.
Now, peace and order is restored like in Singapore. Citizens should just focus on making money and leave the politics and governing to the party.

 

[shulingla]

The British colonize HK and governed it with autocratic control. Then, before the Brits left, they gave the false hope to the Hongkees that they can have more freedom under the Chinese.
And stupid Hongkees believed it and create the chaos that forced the Chinese government to curb those illusions.
If the Hongkees behaved similarly as they had under British colonial rule, there would be no need for a strong hand approach.
Now, peace and order is restored like in Singapore. Citizens should just focus on making money and leave the politics and governing to the party.

"Peace and order" through repressive and heavy-handed government headed by the human rights abuser, John Lee.

 

[winnipegjets]

"Peace and order" through repressive and heavy-handed government headed by the human rights abuser, John Lee.

Hongkees and SInkees care only about making money. As long as they have this freedom, they accept autocratic government.

 

[shulingla]

Hongkees and SInkees care only about making money. As long as they have this freedom, they accept autocratic government.

Don't speak for everyone please, speak for yourself hurhur.

 

[ftan42]

Honkon leased english in 1898 and mature in 1997
sino - nihon war(1894) lost, fine 230 million taels of silver, helped modernisation of the industries and military compound
treaty advantage amdk - got pake, disadvantage - bo pake

 

[Ah Max]

wif zero regard 4 契约精神, ze tiongs iz shunned like a leper internationally.

 

[duluxe]

"Peace and order" through repressive and heavy-handed government headed by the human rights abuser, John Lee.

You will be surprise, we have sinkies in this forum believing the CCP has rescued the chinese, lifting them from poverty to superpower economy.

 

[worcer]

If u trust china CCP, its like u signed a agreement with death to nvr take ur life...