30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given strong

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SINGAPORE : Dr Balaji Sadasivan, who is a member of the People's Action Party (PAP) team contesting Ang Mo Kio Group Representation Constituency, addressed concerns over healthcare costs at a PAP rally on Saturday.

He said given a strong mandate, the PAP would continue to find ways to make healthcare affordable for older Singaporeans.

Dr Balaji said, "Everyone is concerned about the cost of healthcare. When you go to neighbouring countries, in public hospitals, the care is very cheap. But whenever Singaporeans go there, the first thing they want to do is to transfer to a hospital in Singapore, cause the quality of healthcare is excellent, which is why the life expectancy of Singaporeans is so much longer than those of citizens of neighbouring countries.

"But in the next five years, if you give us a strong mandate, we will find ways to make healthcare affordable and more convenient for more Singaporeans. You have heard Minister Khaw Boon Wan on the new CPF rules that allow you to use CPF or Medisave account for outpatient care. This will help many older Singaporeans. We will also reorganise care for elderly, so that your many illnesses can be looked after by one doctor, bringing down the cost of your healthcare, but (to) do this, we need a strong mandate from you."

Meanwhile, PAP candidate for Ang Mo Kio GRC, Inderjit Singh, said there is no need for the opposition to be represented in Parliament.

He told the crowd at a PAP rally that the party is able to provide its checks and balances in governance.

"Now you must have seen in Parliament...that there are MPs from the PAP who were...willing to challenge the government to question their policies, and more importantly to provide constructive criticisms in parliament. And unfortunately, those MPs are not the opposition MPs, those are the PAP MPs, like myself.

"In fact, if you listen carefully in Parliament, sometimes the opposition MPs look like they are PAP MPs, and the PAP MPs, like the few that I mentioned, including myself, look like opposition MPs." - CNA/ms

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[Wang Ye]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

If that is the case expect another GST hike to pay for the "cheaper" healthcare.

 

[po2wq]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

"But in the next five years, if you give us a strong mandate, we will find ways to make healthcare affordable and more convenient for more Singaporeans. You have heard Minister Khaw Boon Wan on the new CPF rules that allow you to use CPF or Medisave account for outpatient care. This will help many older Singaporeans. We will also reorganise care for elderly, so that your many illnesses can be looked after by one doctor, bringing down the cost of your healthcare, but (to) do this, we need a strong mandate from you." ...

ah balaji ...

y dun u "ways to make healthcare affordable and more convenient for more Singaporeans" 1st? ... ppl c how goot u r in achieving dat, den ppl wil pass or fail u ...

u r supposed 2 do dat ... n u do dat rite now! ...

... Inderjit Singh, said there is no need for the opposition to be represented in Parliament.

He told the crowd at a PAP rally that the party is able to provide its checks and balances in governance.

"Now you must have seen in Parliament...that there are MPs from the PAP who were...willing to challenge the government to question their policies, and more importantly to provide constructive criticisms in parliament. And unfortunately, those MPs are not the opposition MPs, those are the PAP MPs, like myself. ...

ah inderjit ... u r wrong! ...

ppl dunwan 2 c ur wayang ...

 

[TeeKee]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

Give them 44 years of rule only now they want to consider that?

 

[Papsmearer]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

Sounds like extortion to me. U re-elect me, or I make healthcare more expensive.

 

[myfoot123]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

Oh really? Khaw Boon Wan said Singapore medical and hospital too costly for old folks and suggested that they go JB or Batam for treatment because Singapore cannot afford to accomdate them.

 

[singveld]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

PAP need not worry.

sinkies support them endlessly, they will continue to support them, even after malaysia conquer singapore.

 

[vamjok]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

it does bloody sounds like extortion to me.

 

[Kid278]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

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"But in the next five years, if you give us a strong mandate, we will find ways to make healthcare affordable and more convenient for more Singaporeans. You have heard Minister Khaw Boon Wan on the new CPF rules that allow you to use CPF or Medisave account for outpatient care. This will help many older Singaporeans. We will also reorganise care for elderly, so that your many illnesses can be looked after by one doctor, bringing down the cost of your healthcare, but (to) do this, we need a strong mandate from you."

Meanwhile, PAP candidate for Ang Mo Kio GRC, Inderjit Singh, said there is no need for the opposition to be represented in Parliament.

He told the crowd at a PAP rally that the party is able to provide its checks and balances in governance.

"Now you must have seen in Parliament...that there are MPs from the PAP who were...willing to challenge the government to question their policies, and more importantly to provide constructive criticisms in parliament. And unfortunately, those MPs are not the opposition MPs, those are the PAP MPs, like myself.

"In fact, if you listen carefully in Parliament, sometimes the opposition MPs look like they are PAP MPs, and the PAP MPs, like the few that I mentioned, including myself, look like opposition MPs." - CNA/ms



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What has lower healthcare got to do with mandate. So long as elected the government has to provide. Strong or weak mandate, taxes are paid the same if not higher. It's one of the most basic responsibility.

Medisaves are people's savings and allowing that to be used equates to lower healthcare cost, well you'll have your mandate, a mandate so strong that caskets will be given out for free.

I dont see any parliament, all I see is a circus. No oppositions needed, PAP can do their own checks and balances, how I dont know, on a rope I suppose. MPs looking alike, well sure, those dont look alike are fixed.:p

 

[phouse3]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

1. You will be classified as a private patient if your first visit is via:

Self-Referral or Walk-in
Referral letter from General Practitioner (GP)
Referral letter from a Private Hospital
Referral letter from a Restructured Hospital under private status and/or specifying a consultant by name
Referral letter from a Polyclinic and specifying a consultant by name
Industrial Accident, or
Discharge from inpatient class A or B1
All foreign residents and non-residents will be classified as private patients.

For Non-residents, a 10% surcharge will be levied on all investigations and treatment procedures.

2. You will be classified as a subsidised patient if your first visit is via:

Referral letter from a Restructured Hospital under subsidised status, A&E, Polyclinic or SAF without specifying a specialist by name
Discharge from inpatient class B2 or C without specifying a specialist by name

Subsidy is only applicable for Singapore Citizens and Permanent Residents, who are not already existing private patients for the same medical condition.

For those who are still dreaming, means testing has started. When you walk into any PAP hospital/clinic you are deemed a private patient for the rest of your life unless you go through A&E or has a referral from a polyclinic. Never mind if you are poorer than a church mouse or a vagabond. Never mind if you don't have a job. They will even ask you to produce bank statements or rent out your flat.

The nurses will play devil and resort to all kinds of tricks to turn you away. So that you will go to a private hospital instead. But if you still persist, you will be admitted. Then the doctors will play angel by asking you to go through A&E, polyclinic or refer you to a medical social worker.

It is from the horse's mouth that he could not understand why the PAP hospitals/clinics are crowded but the private hospitals/clinics are empty. The magic word to the patients is subsidy. But it is a curse word to the Hellth Meanister as subsidy means costs to his meanistry. His meanistry's performance is most important than your welfare. He has utterly confused mean testing with means testing. He even made it almost impossible for you to downgrade.

 

[methink]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

Sounds like extortion to me. U re-elect me, or I make healthcare more expensive.

We should just do the opposite... don't give them pappies our votes. See what they are able to do.

When we even entertain such threats, we are suckers to their ever non-stop stringent entreaties! Stand tall. Vote opposition.

 

[DrPanacea]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

GCT had also promised "more good years".
What did Singaporeans get?
Just wise up and don't listen to PAP.

 

[DrPanacea]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

[Meanwhile, PAP candidate for Ang Mo Kio GRC, Inderjit Singh, said there is no need for the opposition to be represented in Parliament.

He told the crowd at a PAP rally that the party is able to provide its checks and balances in governance.

"Now you must have seen in Parliament...that there are MPs from the PAP who were...willing to challenge the government to question their policies, and more importantly to provide constructive criticisms in parliament. And unfortunately, those MPs are not the opposition MPs, those are the PAP MPs, like myself.]

My question is how do these wayang PAP MPs vote when the whip exists? They will vote along party lines all the time. Inderjit is trying to take us for fools!

 

[DrPanacea]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

[He said given a strong mandate, the PAP would continue to find ways to make healthcare affordable for older Singaporeans.

Dr Balaji said, "Everyone is concerned about the cost of healthcare. When you go to neighbouring countries, in public hospitals, the care is very cheap. But whenever Singaporeans go there, the first thing they want to do is to transfer to a hospital in Singapore, cause the quality of healthcare is excellent, which is why the life expectancy of Singaporeans is so much longer than those of citizens of neighbouring countries.]

The PAP had more than 4 decades of power. Why the need for a mandate now? To con us again so that they will stay for another 5?
What have they done to health care besides making it very very expensive.
And why all this talk at a PAP rally. If they are truly sincere why not open the discussion to the public and the poor man in the street who'd rather die 'cos he cannot afford the health care cost!

 

[butoh6050]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

Oh No!!! It's Animal farm all over again!!
White shirt goooooood! Other color baaaad!!!!

 

[jonlatio]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

It is extortion.

["But in the next five years, if you give us a strong mandate, we will find ways to make healthcare affordable and more convenient for more Singaporeans."]

You mean you won't find ways NOW? You haven't thought of ways NOW?
Isn't that what you are paid for, to find solutions NOW?

 

[phouse3]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

We have ask ourselves a few honest questions.

There are 2 opposition MPs in parliament. They are holding meet-the-people sessions every week. Surely they are supposed to be in tune with what is happening on the ground. So why have they not spoken out?

There are a few medical doctors (including Dr. Balaji) in parliament. Why aren't any of them made the Health Minister instead of a FT?

Will voting for a silent opposition solve our problems?

 

[kaipoh]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

I hope Mp cow is reading these:
1. is $300/per year of max. medisave utilization enough?
I don't know who is the stupid idiot suggested this figure and approved by all the ministers. can mp cow and all ministers post here how much a medical bill requires for a diabetic patient in a year.
2. can you ask all your polyclinic casher 1st thing to ask ' ARE YOU USING YOUR MEDISAVE TO OFFSET PART OF YOUR MEDICAL BILL? ( FOR CHRONIC SICKNESS, THE MEDICAL BILL MUST EXCEESED $40/-)' There was one in geylang east polyclinic, a casher telling the old dementia citizen 'no money no medicine', without even asking him whether using medisave fund? to break the ice of the long 3 mins stand off, I told the casher to give him the medicine first and send the medical bill to his house and i told the old comrade (why i call him old comrade is becos he probably has contributed to the society his share in his peak time) if your financially in devastated stage go to your mp and ask him to help you to write in for installament payment or waive the charges.
you, mps don't have to trust me saying here, go spotcheck yourself in full disguise and in solitaire or send your uncle sam to check it out.
3. polyclinic dr. consultation from $8/ to $10/-, GLUCOBAY 3 mths supply from $72.25 to 2 mths supply of $102.50, MANY MORE. No wonder I always heard koptiam uncle said 'in singapore can die can not sick'.
beleive it or not, I was told by one old man, he has not been eating a 'good meal' for years, but, we are able to spend $50k to learn cooking in france and have our sumptuious birthday dinner in a posh hotel.

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SINGAPORE : Dr Balaji Sadasivan, who is a member of the People's Action Party (PAP) team contesting Ang Mo Kio Group Representation Constituency, addressed concerns over healthcare costs at a PAP rally on Saturday.

He said given a strong mandate, the PAP would continue to find ways to make healthcare affordable for older Singaporeans.

Dr Balaji said, "Everyone is concerned about the cost of healthcare. When you go to neighbouring countries, in public hospitals, the care is very cheap. But whenever Singaporeans go there, the first thing they want to do is to transfer to a hospital in Singapore, cause the quality of healthcare is excellent, which is why the life expectancy of Singaporeans is so much longer than those of citizens of neighbouring countries.

"But in the next five years, if you give us a strong mandate, we will find ways to make healthcare affordable and more convenient for more Singaporeans. You have heard Minister Khaw Boon Wan on the new CPF rules that allow you to use CPF or Medisave account for outpatient care. This will help many older Singaporeans. We will also reorganise care for elderly, so that your many illnesses can be looked after by one doctor, bringing down the cost of your healthcare, but (to) do this, we need a strong mandate from you."

Meanwhile, PAP candidate for Ang Mo Kio GRC, Inderjit Singh, said there is no need for the opposition to be represented in Parliament.

He told the crowd at a PAP rally that the party is able to provide its checks and balances in governance.

"Now you must have seen in Parliament...that there are MPs from the PAP who were...willing to challenge the government to question their policies, and more importantly to provide constructive criticisms in parliament. And unfortunately, those MPs are not the opposition MPs, those are the PAP MPs, like myself.

"In fact, if you listen carefully in Parliament, sometimes the opposition MPs look like they are PAP MPs, and the PAP MPs, like the few that I mentioned, including myself, look like opposition MPs." - CNA/ms

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[Watchman]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

They are chasing all GST evaders now !

 

[Brightkid]

Re: 30-04-2006 - Dr Balaji Sadasivan promises lower healthcare costs if PAP given str

Meanwhile, PAP candidate for Ang Mo Kio GRC, Inderjit Singh, said there is no need for the opposition to be represented in Parliament.

He told the crowd at a PAP rally that the party is able to provide its checks and balances in governance.

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To be fair to the PAPa, they DID do their own 'checks and balances'.

One of them checked and, goes 'opps' no more $ in the coffer as they needed it for 'long term (3 months in their definition)' investment. The other then balance it up by increasing GST, Tax, ERP, delaying withdrawal of CPF, etc.

Anyone can dispute the 'checks and balances' part that they did not do ? It is the 66.6% that think 'checks and balances' has other definitions in favour of the general mass.