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Serious Open letter to Ong Ye Kung on covid19 and vaccines

sweetiepie

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Isn’t shifting the goal-post what the PAP is good at? Still haven’t gotten used to it? Not happy ah? Vote the PAP out lah! :coffee::coffee::coffee:
KNN There is no way I.e 0% chance that pap can be voted out and this writer no matter how wise he think he is or can be is stoopid enough not to know that only violence can leesolve any conflict or issues with PAP KNN
 

sweetiepie

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KNN There is no way I.e 0% chance that pap can be voted out and this writer no matter how wise he think he is or can be is stoopid enough not to know that only violence can leesolve any conflict or issues with PAP KNN
What is his purpose of writing a open lettern? Does he expect pap to listen to him? Or his intention was to spread it to the peasants and let peasant leeject the vaccines? Who does he think he is ? Therefore Instead of writing a useless open letter he should be writing a open letter to gather supportive peasants for a violent takeover of power
 

sweetiepie

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Let My uncle be more specific- by voting 49% still lose to 51% while by violence 30% could possiblee win if the 30% are stronger fighters onllee bloodshed and violence can leesolve it my uncle chop his statement here
 

porcaputtana

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Open Letter to Minister Ong Ye Kung​

23/08/2021

On 16 Aug 2021, I sent Minister Ong a link to a video which I felt had useful information on Covid-19.
Two days later, he replied "Advise you to access news from credible sources, so that you can better understand the benefits of the vaccines."
6 hours later, I responded with a two-page letter.
It has been 5 days and there has been no reply, which I optimistically take as a good sign that it is still be digested.
Regardless, I feel it appropriate to share this letter with some friends, to share some personal views and perhaps shed more light on this contentious topic.
In case this letter goes beyond my circle of friends, who know me well enough, please understand that the first paragraph was needed to quickly establish credentials and assuage the Minister's concern that I was falling for falsehoods from non-credible sources.
Below is the letter in full, without edits, shared purely as a concerned citizen. ==============================================================================
Dear Minister Sir.
Thank you for your reply. I am a retired analyst who left the industry shortly after being rated the top Asian Strategist for small caps, an area where distinguishing fact from fiction is most critical. Before that, I led one of Singapore's top research teams, and delivered a 72page report (Mar 2002) outlining the challenges that lay ahead for our country as a parting gift before leaving for the pan-Asian position. I believe Minister Tharman (MoF at the time) circulated this report through the entire Ministry and would also like to think that some policy decisions have been influenced by this work. Therefore, I would like to believe that my experience has honed me to sift truth from the current world of information overload, and drive towards clear actionable conclusions.
Please allow me to share three observations.
1. Mainstream media (MSM) has unfairly villainised the brightest minds in medical research. Their views should be heard, not censored.
My current information sources include top medical professionals like Drs Peter McCulllough, Robert Malone and Pierre Kory. Dr McCullough is an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and Professor of Medicine who is one of the most published professional in the medical world (> 1000 publications and > 600 citations in the National Library of Medicine), with at least 46 peerreviewed publications related to this infection alone. Dr Robert Malone is the inventor of the mRNA technology and been a consultant to key US regulators over the last three decades on vaccine development. The video I sent you actually came to my attention via a tweet from Dr Malone.
Alas, all established medical professionals, like these three, who dared raise the alarm bells have been labelled as anti-vax by MSM and effectively "cancelled" by Facebook, Youtube and even Wikipedia. One should ask why these top professionals are willing to risk their careers by raising the alarm bells. For me, the most logical explanation is that they believe it is the right thing to do. If only because of this, I truly hope u can spend time examining and understanding what they have to say.
2. Supposedly credible information sources must also be challenged.
I used to believe in regulatory bodies like the CDC and WHO. But did you know that the WHO just issued a "pronouncement" that vaccines are better than natural immunity, without any scientific research backing? That's completely against established science. Did you know that in the latest Covid-19 outbreak in Israel, those who have recovered from the virus previously were just 1% of these cases (regardless of whether they were vaxxed or unvaxxed) vs 53% fully vaxxed!
I would also urge caution against taking Pfizer's word as gospel truth. Did you know they are the #2 most heavily fined drug company in the US, just below GSK and just ahead of J&J. Issues ranged from false claims to kickbacks and outright bribery of medical professionals. For these listed companies, it isn't about right vs wrong. They are just doing what they are supposed to do, i.e. maximise profits for shareholders.
3. We need to establish the facts for ourselves before pushing ahead with policies which might have serious long term consequences.
A) Increase research efforts into early treatment.
I have gone through our current treatment protocols and find most of them following WHO guidelines, which are mostly based on one or two clinical trials. Most are expensive. Cheap protocols which have been shown effective are being ignored. You can easily access all the protocols and studies here https://c19early.com. There are now 110 studies and counting on Ivermectin alone. Our own NUH study discrediting ivermectin was flawed - I don't understand why the study used 12mg STAT dose when an earlier India study already showed that this was insufficient and a 3 to 5-day 12mg/day dose was more appropriate.
Perhaps you can reach out to Dr Pierre Kory (Twitter @PierreKory), and I am sure he will be willing to spare some of his time to have a private teleconference if only to help shed light on his latest findings in early intervention therapies.
B) Why not show the computation for arriving at the "benefits outweigh the risks" motherhood justification? There remains much concern that the numbers don't jibe. Once u combine good early intervention therapies + v low incidence of bad outcomes amongst younger and healthy folks, what is the logic of even vaccinating these people? Won't they simply get more resilient and longer lasting natural immunity WITHOUT the Vaxx? Add the "small but not insignificant" risk of VAERS and it feels that the risks actually outweigh the benefits of vaxxing them.
C) Vax vs unvaxxed segregation of rules. Given that vaxxed have similar risks of getting infected and similar levels of contagion, there is no logical justification for having health safety rules to segregate the vaxxed from the unvaxxed. If the unvaxxed want to risk bad outcomes by refusing the vax, shouldn't that be their choice. In addition, if you go over the global data of the highest vaxxed countries vs the latest case surge, there is no correlation. Indeed, places like India and Sweden, where they are now, arguably, at higher levels of natural immunity, are experiencing general stability (zero deaths in Sweden now).
D) What is our current immunity status. Being vaxxed doesn't guarantee immunity. Likewise, being unvaxxed doesn't mean you are vulnerable. Shouldn't we test immunity directly before continuing on this mass vaccination spree? There is also a chance that unvaxxed individuals who have acquired natural immunity can be negatively affected by an additional vaccination. Getting a direct assessment of our nation's current immunity by testing for immunoglobin levels seems quite pertinent.
I could go on, but feel I need to stop.
To conclude, I am writing to you as a concerned citizen. Just as my previous Singapore strategy report written almost 20 years ago, was meant to shed some light on the risks facing our country and provide some actionable ideas, so too is my hope for this much shorter piece.
You can’t blame OYK for ignoring you

I couldn’t make it pass 2 paragraphs of your garbage without thinking about flipping over to the sex forum
 

Leongsam

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Immunity is immunity. Vaccines simply trigger your immune system to produce antibodies.

antibodies naturally produced by your B cells. Same same . No difference.

stop peddling this natural vs artificial immunity nonsense

mRNA vaccine induced immunity is against the spike protein.

Natural immunity produces antibodies against a much broader range of proteins that make up the Covid-19 virus.
 

Leongsam

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isn't it obvious from the data? the weak ones in Sweden already died. DUH Sam!

The weak ones are all going to die anyway. In Sweden they all died last year. In countries that have drawn this out their deaths will stretched out over a longer period. The net result could well be the same.
 

nayr69sg

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Staff member
SuperMod

Open Letter to Minister Ong Ye Kung​

23/08/2021

On 16 Aug 2021, I sent Minister Ong a link to a video which I felt had useful information on Covid-19.
Two days later, he replied "Advise you to access news from credible sources, so that you can better understand the benefits of the vaccines."
6 hours later, I responded with a two-page letter.
It has been 5 days and there has been no reply, which I optimistically take as a good sign that it is still be digested.
Regardless, I feel it appropriate to share this letter with some friends, to share some personal views and perhaps shed more light on this contentious topic.
In case this letter goes beyond my circle of friends, who know me well enough, please understand that the first paragraph was needed to quickly establish credentials and assuage the Minister's concern that I was falling for falsehoods from non-credible sources.
Below is the letter in full, without edits, shared purely as a concerned citizen. ==============================================================================
Dear Minister Sir.
Thank you for your reply. I am a retired analyst who left the industry shortly after being rated the top Asian Strategist for small caps, an area where distinguishing fact from fiction is most critical. Before that, I led one of Singapore's top research teams, and delivered a 72page report (Mar 2002) outlining the challenges that lay ahead for our country as a parting gift before leaving for the pan-Asian position. I believe Minister Tharman (MoF at the time) circulated this report through the entire Ministry and would also like to think that some policy decisions have been influenced by this work. Therefore, I would like to believe that my experience has honed me to sift truth from the current world of information overload, and drive towards clear actionable conclusions.
Please allow me to share three observations.
1. Mainstream media (MSM) has unfairly villainised the brightest minds in medical research. Their views should be heard, not censored.
My current information sources include top medical professionals like Drs Peter McCulllough, Robert Malone and Pierre Kory. Dr McCullough is an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, and Professor of Medicine who is one of the most published professional in the medical world (> 1000 publications and > 600 citations in the National Library of Medicine), with at least 46 peerreviewed publications related to this infection alone. Dr Robert Malone is the inventor of the mRNA technology and been a consultant to key US regulators over the last three decades on vaccine development. The video I sent you actually came to my attention via a tweet from Dr Malone.
Alas, all established medical professionals, like these three, who dared raise the alarm bells have been labelled as anti-vax by MSM and effectively "cancelled" by Facebook, Youtube and even Wikipedia. One should ask why these top professionals are willing to risk their careers by raising the alarm bells. For me, the most logical explanation is that they believe it is the right thing to do. If only because of this, I truly hope u can spend time examining and understanding what they have to say.
2. Supposedly credible information sources must also be challenged.
I used to believe in regulatory bodies like the CDC and WHO. But did you know that the WHO just issued a "pronouncement" that vaccines are better than natural immunity, without any scientific research backing? That's completely against established science. Did you know that in the latest Covid-19 outbreak in Israel, those who have recovered from the virus previously were just 1% of these cases (regardless of whether they were vaxxed or unvaxxed) vs 53% fully vaxxed!
I would also urge caution against taking Pfizer's word as gospel truth. Did you know they are the #2 most heavily fined drug company in the US, just below GSK and just ahead of J&J. Issues ranged from false claims to kickbacks and outright bribery of medical professionals. For these listed companies, it isn't about right vs wrong. They are just doing what they are supposed to do, i.e. maximise profits for shareholders.
3. We need to establish the facts for ourselves before pushing ahead with policies which might have serious long term consequences.
A) Increase research efforts into early treatment.
I have gone through our current treatment protocols and find most of them following WHO guidelines, which are mostly based on one or two clinical trials. Most are expensive. Cheap protocols which have been shown effective are being ignored. You can easily access all the protocols and studies here https://c19early.com. There are now 110 studies and counting on Ivermectin alone. Our own NUH study discrediting ivermectin was flawed - I don't understand why the study used 12mg STAT dose when an earlier India study already showed that this was insufficient and a 3 to 5-day 12mg/day dose was more appropriate.
Perhaps you can reach out to Dr Pierre Kory (Twitter @PierreKory), and I am sure he will be willing to spare some of his time to have a private teleconference if only to help shed light on his latest findings in early intervention therapies.
B) Why not show the computation for arriving at the "benefits outweigh the risks" motherhood justification? There remains much concern that the numbers don't jibe. Once u combine good early intervention therapies + v low incidence of bad outcomes amongst younger and healthy folks, what is the logic of even vaccinating these people? Won't they simply get more resilient and longer lasting natural immunity WITHOUT the Vaxx? Add the "small but not insignificant" risk of VAERS and it feels that the risks actually outweigh the benefits of vaxxing them.
C) Vax vs unvaxxed segregation of rules. Given that vaxxed have similar risks of getting infected and similar levels of contagion, there is no logical justification for having health safety rules to segregate the vaxxed from the unvaxxed. If the unvaxxed want to risk bad outcomes by refusing the vax, shouldn't that be their choice. In addition, if you go over the global data of the highest vaxxed countries vs the latest case surge, there is no correlation. Indeed, places like India and Sweden, where they are now, arguably, at higher levels of natural immunity, are experiencing general stability (zero deaths in Sweden now).
D) What is our current immunity status. Being vaxxed doesn't guarantee immunity. Likewise, being unvaxxed doesn't mean you are vulnerable. Shouldn't we test immunity directly before continuing on this mass vaccination spree? There is also a chance that unvaxxed individuals who have acquired natural immunity can be negatively affected by an additional vaccination. Getting a direct assessment of our nation's current immunity by testing for immunoglobin levels seems quite pertinent.
I could go on, but feel I need to stop.
To conclude, I am writing to you as a concerned citizen. Just as my previous Singapore strategy report written almost 20 years ago, was meant to shed some light on the risks facing our country and provide some actionable ideas, so too is my hope for this much shorter piece.
LOL!

If this guy was a doctor he would not dare write what he did.

And if he was dr now that he did he would be open to complaints to SMC for bringing the medical profession into disrepute.

That's why drs all diam diam
 

porcaputtana

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mRNA vaccine induced immunity is against the spike protein.

Natural immunity produces antibodies against a much broader range of proteins that make up the Covid-19 virus.
Against a broader range of proteins that make up the virus

ok this is new to me

you have any literature to support the fact that such broad range of antibodies are more effective against the virus ?

so far the evidence seem to show those who acquired the virus as an infection (and therefore produce your broader range of antibodies) have much higher mortality
 

tobelightlight

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The vaccines seem to be pretty useless based upon the data from Israel.

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i do not need to see data ( in other words, to know before it actually happens based on basic understanding of biology) to know how useless and harmful vaccine is as compare to our natural immunity . i have been telling everyone here not to get jab but not much people listen to me.
 

porcaputtana

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LOL!

If this guy was a doctor he would not dare write what he did.

And if he was dr now that he did he would be open to complaints to SMC for bringing the medical profession into disrepute.

That's why drs all diam diam
This guy is a lobotomized pro choice anti vaxxer who is high on Jesus Juice

As a junior MO I had to entertain a few of these a month in the subsidised clinics
 

pvtpublic

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The weak ones are all going to die anyway. In Sweden they all died last year. In countries that have drawn this out their deaths will stretched out over a longer period. The net result could well be the same.

yes this statement makes more sense than your previous.

well we shouldn't let a crisis go to waste. so let's just get with the program and let the great reset take place.

many pension funds are running out of money as lifespans get longer. the great cull should ease their finances somewhat.
 

porcaputtana

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i do not need to see data ( in other words, to know before it actually happens based on basic understanding of biology) to know how useless and harmful vaccine is as compare to our natural immunity . i have been telling everyone here not to get jab but not much people listen to me.
thank goodness your understanding of biology is basic . Otherwise you might discover reproduction physiology and produce a next generation of fucktards to burden society
 

pvtpublic

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i do not need to see data ( in other words, to know before it actually happens based on basic understanding of biology) to know how useless and harmful vaccine is as compare to our natural immunity . i have been telling everyone here not to get jab but not much people listen to me.
 

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Leongsam

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Against a broader range of proteins that make up the virus

ok this is new to me

you have any literature to support the fact that such broad range of antibodies are more effective against the virus ?

so far the evidence seem to show those who acquired the virus as an infection (and therefore produce your broader range of antibodies) have much higher mortality

This is the guy I have been following since the beginning. Clear and concise and devoid of any agenda as far as I can see.

The video clearly explains the differences between natural immunity and vaccine immunity. It is more than just B cells.

 

Leongsam

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yes this statement makes more sense than your previous.

well we shouldn't let a crisis go to waste. so let's just get with the program and let the great reset take place.

many pension funds are running out of money as lifespans get longer. the great cull should ease their finances somewhat.

My theory is that because Sweden did not shut down schools last year and deployed far less social distancing and masking measures the virus therefore spread widely amongst the young with the majority of cases being asymptomatic because the alpha variant was pretty benign in the under 40s.

Now that the Delta variant has come along it seems to have a far more detrimental effect on the young compared to the original alpha. However because immunity induced by catching the alpha variant is superior to vaccine immunity the delta spread in Sweden is a lot slower.
 

porcaputtana

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So how you do it? Bite your tongue?
What else is there to do?

the fucktard just needed to write one complain letter and I would have to spend the next one week explaining to hospital admin who are equally retarded and only too happy to sell doctors down the river to close case
 

nayr69sg

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Against a broader range of proteins that make up the virus

ok this is new to me

you have any literature to support the fact that such broad range of antibodies are more effective against the virus ?

so far the evidence seem to show those who acquired the virus as an infection (and therefore produce your broader range of antibodies) have much higher mortality
Dont bother lah.

As doctor we are the lowest on the ranking of knowledge.

In fact most people think drs are dumb and stupid and just controlled by pharma. We are mindless drones.

You cant win advising a patient who disagrees with you. And then is no bonus or extra for you for changing their minds. Instead you end up just banging your head against the wall.

So just praise everyone and say you respect their opinion and knowledge. They have full autonomy. But refer them to medical body recommendation to say thats my professional body's position. My personal opinion are off the table.
 
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