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Elon musk said it has been an “excruciating” year and exhaustion is taking toll on his physical health

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Elon Musk confronts a fateful tweet and an 'excruciating' year
Asked if the exhaustion was taking a toll on his physical health, Musk answered: “It’s not been great, actually. I’ve had friends come by who are really concerned”
New York Times | August 17, 2018, 12:03 IST

Elon Musk was at home in Los Angeles, struggling to maintain his composure. “This past year has been the most difficult and painful year of my career,” he said. “It was excruciating.”

The year has only gotten more intense for Musk, chairman and chief executive of the electric-car maker Tesla, since he abruptly declared on Twitter last week that he hoped to convert the publicly traded company into a private one. The episode kicked off a furor in the markets and within Tesla itself, and he acknowledged Thursday that he was fraying.

At multiple points in an hourlong interview with The New York Times, he choked up, noting that he nearly missed his brother’s wedding this summer and spent his birthday holed up in Tesla’s offices as the company raced to meet elusive production targets on a crucial new model.

Asked if the exhaustion was taking a toll on his physical health, Musk answered: “It’s not been great, actually. I’ve had friends come by who are really concerned.”

The events set in motion by Musk’s tweet have ignited a federal investigation and have angered some board members, according to people familiar with the matter. Efforts are underway to find a No. 2 executive to help take some of the pressure off Musk, people briefed on the search said. And some board members have expressed concern not only about Musk’s workload but also about his use of Ambien, two people familiar with the board said.

For two decades, Musk has been one of Silicon Valley’s most brash and ambitious entrepreneurs, helping to found several influential technology companies. He has often carried himself with bravado, dismissing critics and relishing the spotlight that has come with his success and fortune. But in the interview, he demonstrated an extraordinary level of self-reflection and vulnerability, acknowledging that his myriad executive responsibilities are taking a steep personal toll.

In the interview, Musk provided a detailed timeline of the events leading up to the Twitter postings on Aug. 7 in which he said he was considering taking the company private at $420 a share. He asserted that he had “funding secured” for such a deal — a transaction likely to be worth well over $10 billion.

That morning, Musk woke up at home with his girlfriend, the musician known as Grimes, and had an early workout. Then he got in a Tesla Model S and drove himself to the airport. En route, Musk typed his fateful message.

Musk has said he saw the tweet as an attempt at transparency. He acknowledged Thursday that no one had seen or reviewed it before he posted it.

Tesla’s shares soared. Investors, analysts and journalists puzzled over the tweet — published in the middle of the day’s official market trading, an unusual time to release major news — including the price Musk cited. He said in the interview that he wanted to offer a roughly 20 percent premium over where the stock had been recently trading, which would have been about $419. He decided to round up to $420 — a number that has become code for marijuana in counterculture lore.

“It seemed like better karma at $420 than at $419,” he said in the interview. “But I was not on weed, to be clear. Weed is not helpful for productivity. There’s a reason for the word ‘stoned.’ You just sit there like a stone on weed.”

Musk reached the airport and flew on a private plane to Nevada, where he spent the day visiting a Tesla battery plant known as the Gigafactory, including time meeting with managers and working on an assembly line. That evening, he flew to the San Francisco Bay Area, where he held Tesla meetings late into the night.

What Musk meant by “funding secured” has become an important question. Those two words helped propel Tesla’s shares higher.

But that funding, it turned out, was far from secure.

Musk has said he was referring to a potential investment by Saudi Arabia’s government investment fund. Musk had extensive talks with representatives of the $250 billion fund about possibly financing a transaction to take Tesla private — maybe even in a manner that would have resulted in the Saudis’ owning most of the company. One of those sessions took place July 31 at the Tesla factory in the Bay Area, according to a person familiar with the meeting. But the Saudi fund had not committed to provide any cash, two people briefed on the discussions said.

Another possibility under consideration is that SpaceX, Musk’s rocket company, would help bankroll the Tesla privatization and would take an ownership stake in the carmaker, according to people familiar with the matter.

Musk’s tweet kicked off a chain reaction.

An hour and 20 minutes after the tweet, with Tesla’s shares up 7 percent, the Nasdaq stock exchange halted trading, and Tesla published a letter to employees from Musk explaining the rationale for possibly taking the company private. When the shares resumed trading, they continued their climb, ending the day with an 11 percent gain.

The next day, investigators in the San Francisco office of the Securities and Exchange Commission asked Tesla for explanations. Ordinarily, such material information about a public company’s plans is laid out in detail after extensive internal preparation and issued through official channels. Board members, blindsided by the chief executive’s market-moving statement, were angry that they had not been briefed, two people familiar with the matter said. They scrambled to cobble together a public statement trying to defuse a mounting uproar over the seemingly haphazard communication.

Musk said in the interview that board members had not complained to him about his tweet. “I don’t recall getting any communications from the board at all,” he said. “I definitely did not get calls from irate directors.”

But shortly after the Times published its interview with Musk, he added through a Tesla spokeswoman that Antonio Gracias, Tesla’s lead independent director, had indeed contacted him to discuss the Aug. 7 Twitter post, and that he had agreed not to tweet again about the possible privatization deal unless he had discussed it with the board.

Musk added that he did not regret his Twitter post — “Why would I?” — and said he had no plans to stop using the social media platform. Some board members, however, have recently told Musk he should lay off Twitter and focus on making cars and launching rockets, according to people familiar with the matter.

The SEC investigation appears to be intensifying rapidly. Just days after the agency’s request for information, Tesla’s board and Musk received SEC subpoenas, according to a person familiar with the matter. Board members and Musk are preparing to meet with SEC officials as soon as next week, the person said.

In the interview Thursday, Musk alternated between laughter and tears.

He said he had been working up to 120 hours a week recently — echoing the reason he cited in a recent public apology to an analyst whom he had berated. In the interview, Musk said he had not had taken time off of more than a week since 2001, when he was bedridden with malaria.

“There were times when I didn’t leave the factory for three or four days — days when I didn’t go outside,” he said. “This has really come at the expense of seeing my kids. And seeing friends.”

Musk stopped talking, seemingly overcome by emotion.

He turned 47 on June 28, and he said he spent the full 24 hours of his birthday at work. “All night — no friends, nothing,” he said, struggling to get the words out.

Two days later, he was scheduled to be the best man at the wedding of his brother, Kimbal, in Catalonia, Spain. Musk said he flew directly there from the factory, arriving just two hours before the ceremony. Immediately afterward, he got back on the plane and returned straight to Tesla headquarters, where work on the mass-market Model 3 has been all consuming.

Musk paused again.

“I thought the worst of it was over — I thought it was,” he said. “The worst is over from a Tesla operational standpoint.” He continued: “But from a personal pain standpoint, the worst is yet to come.”

He blamed short-sellers — investors who bet that Tesla’s shares will lose value — for much of his stress. He said he was bracing for “at least a few months of extreme torture from the short-sellers, who are desperately pushing a narrative that will possibly result in Tesla’s destruction.”

Referring to the short-sellers, he added: “They’re not dumb guys, but they’re not supersmart. They’re OK. They’re smartish.”

Musk’s tweets on Aug. 7 were the most recent of several flare-ups that had drawn scrutiny. He wrangled with short-sellers and belittled analysts for asking “boring, bonehead” questions. And after sending a team of engineers from one of his companies to help rescue members of a stranded soccer team, he lashed out at a cave diver who was dismissive of the gesture, deriding him on Twitter as a “pedo guy,” or pedophile.

To help sleep when he is not working, Musk said he sometimes takes Ambien. “It is often a choice of no sleep or Ambien,” he said.

But this has worried some board members, who have noted that sometimes the drug does not put Musk to sleep but instead contributes to late-night Twitter sessions, according to a person familiar with the board’s thinking. Some board members are also aware that Musk has on occasion used recreational drugs, according to people familiar with the matter.

Tesla executives have been trying for years to recruit a chief operating officer or other No. 2 executive to assume some of Musk’s day-to-day responsibilities, according to people familiar with the matter. A couple of years ago, Musk said, the company approached Sheryl Sandberg, who is Facebook’s second-highest executive, about the job.

Musk said that “to the best of my knowledge,” there is “no active search right now.” But people familiar with the matter said a search is underway, and one person said it had intensified in the wake of Musk’s tweets.

In response to questions for this article, Tesla provided a statement that it attributed to its board, excluding Musk. “There have been many false and irresponsible rumors in the press about the discussions of the Tesla board,” the statement said. “We would like to make clear that Elon’s commitment and dedication to Tesla is obvious. Over the past 15 years, Elon’s leadership of the Tesla team has caused Tesla to grow from a small startup to having hundreds of thousands of cars on the road that customers love, employing tens of thousands of people around the world, and creating significant shareholder value in the process.”

Musk said he had no plans to relinquish his dual roles as chairman and chief executive.

But, he added, “if you have anyone who can do a better job, please let me know. They can have the job. Is there someone who can do the job better? They can have the reins right now.”
 

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This guy is a big canon attention whore

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Elon Musk confronts a fateful tweet and an 'excruciating' year
Asked if the exhaustion was taking a toll on his physical health, Musk answered: “It’s not been great, actually. I’ve had friends come by who are really concerned”
New York Times | August 17, 2018, 12:03 IST

Elon Musk was at home in Los Angeles, struggling to maintain his composure. “This past year has been the most difficult and painful year of my career,” he said. “It was excruciating.”

The year has only gotten more intense for Musk, chairman and chief executive of the electric-car maker Tesla, since he abruptly declared on Twitter last week that he hoped to convert the publicly traded company into a private one. The episode kicked off a furor in the markets and within Tesla itself, and he acknowledged Thursday that he was fraying.

At multiple points in an hourlong interview with The New York Times, he choked up, noting that he nearly missed his brother’s wedding this summer and spent his birthday holed up in Tesla’s offices as the company raced to meet elusive production targets on a crucial new model.

Asked if the exhaustion was taking a toll on his physical health, Musk answered: “It’s not been great, actually. I’ve had friends come by who are really concerned.”

The events set in motion by Musk’s tweet have ignited a federal investigation and have angered some board members, according to people familiar with the matter. Efforts are underway to find a No. 2 executive to help take some of the pressure off Musk, people briefed on the search said. And some board members have expressed concern not only about Musk’s workload but also about his use of Ambien, two people familiar with the board said.

For two decades, Musk has been one of Silicon Valley’s most brash and ambitious entrepreneurs, helping to found several influential technology companies. He has often carried himself with bravado, dismissing critics and relishing the spotlight that has come with his success and fortune. But in the interview, he demonstrated an extraordinary level of self-reflection and vulnerability, acknowledging that his myriad executive responsibilities are taking a steep personal toll.

In the interview, Musk provided a detailed timeline of the events leading up to the Twitter postings on Aug. 7 in which he said he was considering taking the company private at $420 a share. He asserted that he had “funding secured” for such a deal — a transaction likely to be worth well over $10 billion.

That morning, Musk woke up at home with his girlfriend, the musician known as Grimes, and had an early workout. Then he got in a Tesla Model S and drove himself to the airport. En route, Musk typed his fateful message.

Musk has said he saw the tweet as an attempt at transparency. He acknowledged Thursday that no one had seen or reviewed it before he posted it.

Tesla’s shares soared. Investors, analysts and journalists puzzled over the tweet — published in the middle of the day’s official market trading, an unusual time to release major news — including the price Musk cited. He said in the interview that he wanted to offer a roughly 20 percent premium over where the stock had been recently trading, which would have been about $419. He decided to round up to $420 — a number that has become code for marijuana in counterculture lore.

“It seemed like better karma at $420 than at $419,” he said in the interview. “But I was not on weed, to be clear. Weed is not helpful for productivity. There’s a reason for the word ‘stoned.’ You just sit there like a stone on weed.”

Musk reached the airport and flew on a private plane to Nevada, where he spent the day visiting a Tesla battery plant known as the Gigafactory, including time meeting with managers and working on an assembly line. That evening, he flew to the San Francisco Bay Area, where he held Tesla meetings late into the night.

What Musk meant by “funding secured” has become an important question. Those two words helped propel Tesla’s shares higher.

But that funding, it turned out, was far from secure.

Musk has said he was referring to a potential investment by Saudi Arabia’s government investment fund. Musk had extensive talks with representatives of the $250 billion fund about possibly financing a transaction to take Tesla private — maybe even in a manner that would have resulted in the Saudis’ owning most of the company. One of those sessions took place July 31 at the Tesla factory in the Bay Area, according to a person familiar with the meeting. But the Saudi fund had not committed to provide any cash, two people briefed on the discussions said.

Another possibility under consideration is that SpaceX, Musk’s rocket company, would help bankroll the Tesla privatization and would take an ownership stake in the carmaker, according to people familiar with the matter.

Musk’s tweet kicked off a chain reaction.

An hour and 20 minutes after the tweet, with Tesla’s shares up 7 percent, the Nasdaq stock exchange halted trading, and Tesla published a letter to employees from Musk explaining the rationale for possibly taking the company private. When the shares resumed trading, they continued their climb, ending the day with an 11 percent gain.

The next day, investigators in the San Francisco office of the Securities and Exchange Commission asked Tesla for explanations. Ordinarily, such material information about a public company’s plans is laid out in detail after extensive internal preparation and issued through official channels. Board members, blindsided by the chief executive’s market-moving statement, were angry that they had not been briefed, two people familiar with the matter said. They scrambled to cobble together a public statement trying to defuse a mounting uproar over the seemingly haphazard communication.

Musk said in the interview that board members had not complained to him about his tweet. “I don’t recall getting any communications from the board at all,” he said. “I definitely did not get calls from irate directors.”

But shortly after the Times published its interview with Musk, he added through a Tesla spokeswoman that Antonio Gracias, Tesla’s lead independent director, had indeed contacted him to discuss the Aug. 7 Twitter post, and that he had agreed not to tweet again about the possible privatization deal unless he had discussed it with the board.

Musk added that he did not regret his Twitter post — “Why would I?” — and said he had no plans to stop using the social media platform. Some board members, however, have recently told Musk he should lay off Twitter and focus on making cars and launching rockets, according to people familiar with the matter.

The SEC investigation appears to be intensifying rapidly. Just days after the agency’s request for information, Tesla’s board and Musk received SEC subpoenas, according to a person familiar with the matter. Board members and Musk are preparing to meet with SEC officials as soon as next week, the person said.

In the interview Thursday, Musk alternated between laughter and tears.

He said he had been working up to 120 hours a week recently — echoing the reason he cited in a recent public apology to an analyst whom he had berated. In the interview, Musk said he had not had taken time off of more than a week since 2001, when he was bedridden with malaria.

“There were times when I didn’t leave the factory for three or four days — days when I didn’t go outside,” he said. “This has really come at the expense of seeing my kids. And seeing friends.”

Musk stopped talking, seemingly overcome by emotion.

He turned 47 on June 28, and he said he spent the full 24 hours of his birthday at work. “All night — no friends, nothing,” he said, struggling to get the words out.

Two days later, he was scheduled to be the best man at the wedding of his brother, Kimbal, in Catalonia, Spain. Musk said he flew directly there from the factory, arriving just two hours before the ceremony. Immediately afterward, he got back on the plane and returned straight to Tesla headquarters, where work on the mass-market Model 3 has been all consuming.

Musk paused again.

“I thought the worst of it was over — I thought it was,” he said. “The worst is over from a Tesla operational standpoint.” He continued: “But from a personal pain standpoint, the worst is yet to come.”

He blamed short-sellers — investors who bet that Tesla’s shares will lose value — for much of his stress. He said he was bracing for “at least a few months of extreme torture from the short-sellers, who are desperately pushing a narrative that will possibly result in Tesla’s destruction.”

Referring to the short-sellers, he added: “They’re not dumb guys, but they’re not supersmart. They’re OK. They’re smartish.”

Musk’s tweets on Aug. 7 were the most recent of several flare-ups that had drawn scrutiny. He wrangled with short-sellers and belittled analysts for asking “boring, bonehead” questions. And after sending a team of engineers from one of his companies to help rescue members of a stranded soccer team, he lashed out at a cave diver who was dismissive of the gesture, deriding him on Twitter as a “pedo guy,” or pedophile.

To help sleep when he is not working, Musk said he sometimes takes Ambien. “It is often a choice of no sleep or Ambien,” he said.

But this has worried some board members, who have noted that sometimes the drug does not put Musk to sleep but instead contributes to late-night Twitter sessions, according to a person familiar with the board’s thinking. Some board members are also aware that Musk has on occasion used recreational drugs, according to people familiar with the matter.

Tesla executives have been trying for years to recruit a chief operating officer or other No. 2 executive to assume some of Musk’s day-to-day responsibilities, according to people familiar with the matter. A couple of years ago, Musk said, the company approached Sheryl Sandberg, who is Facebook’s second-highest executive, about the job.

Musk said that “to the best of my knowledge,” there is “no active search right now.” But people familiar with the matter said a search is underway, and one person said it had intensified in the wake of Musk’s tweets.

In response to questions for this article, Tesla provided a statement that it attributed to its board, excluding Musk. “There have been many false and irresponsible rumors in the press about the discussions of the Tesla board,” the statement said. “We would like to make clear that Elon’s commitment and dedication to Tesla is obvious. Over the past 15 years, Elon’s leadership of the Tesla team has caused Tesla to grow from a small startup to having hundreds of thousands of cars on the road that customers love, employing tens of thousands of people around the world, and creating significant shareholder value in the process.”

Musk said he had no plans to relinquish his dual roles as chairman and chief executive.

But, he added, “if you have anyone who can do a better job, please let me know. They can have the job. Is there someone who can do the job better? They can have the reins right now.”
Why I never even think of buying Tesla shares back then?
 

nayr69sg

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Why I never even think of buying Tesla shares back then?

Don't look back lah. I find history for me is filled with regrets.

Look forward.

Trouble is I spent my life learning all useless knowledge and information.

good we have smart friends here can give some tips.

I have learned that in life it is not about working hard and studying hard and ALL THAT FUCKING BULLSHIT.

It is learning the right information and networking with the correct people and being able to invest in the monetary system that gets people rich.

Think about it. Money is an idea. Man created this idea called a monetary system to exchange efforts and work and goods for an idea which can be symbolised by a paper or coin.

This system is now widespread and has so many forms. Stocks etc.

What better way than to udnerstand the inner workings of this system and profiteer directly from it?

The suckers are those who do all the actual work etc.

But truth is you need money to be able to work the monetary system. Or at least friends or relationships connected to money.
 

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Don't look back lah. I find history for me is filled with regrets.

Look forward.

Trouble is I spent my life learning all useless knowledge and information.

good we have smart friends here can give some tips.

I have learned that in life it is not about working hard and studying hard and ALL THAT FUCKING BULLSHIT.

It is learning the right information and networking with the correct people and being able to invest in the monetary system that gets people rich.

Think about it. Money is an idea. Man created this idea called a monetary system to exchange efforts and work and goods for an idea which can be symbolised by a paper or coin.

This system is now widespread and has so many forms. Stocks etc.

What better way than to udnerstand the inner workings of this system and profiteer directly from it?

The suckers are those who do all the actual work etc.

But truth is you need money to be able to work the monetary system. Or at least friends or relationships connected to money.

Yes ! That's why i've always said why work for people ? People needs work but aren't organized enough to run a business but basically each of us have the same man/hr. I do eight hours as boss or worker still it's the same hours.

Just a matter of choices once you make the leap u'll never look back. :P <3

*Even Doctors can network and Group into commercial there are tons of investors too only if you have Corporates Business Consultants to handle it. Run it like a business. Like USA, SG etc we ran the Cuntry like a business like a hotel is it not ? Hence GST ! lol.............

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nayr69sg

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Yes ! That's why i've always said why work for people ? People needs work but aren't organized enough to run a business but basically each of us have the same man/hr. I do eight hours as boss or worker still it's the same hours.

Just a matter of choices once you make the leap u'll never look back. :P <3

*Even Doctors can network and Group into commercial there are tons of investors too only if you have Corporates Business Consultants to handle it. Run it like a business. Like USA, SG etc we ran the Cuntry like a business like a hotel is it not ? Hence GST ! lol.............

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Well technically i am self employed and am my own boss.

But reality is I am working for patients.

Doctors network? You dont know doctors lah. They are rhe most egoistic bastards of the professional world. So much divided that they allow the colleges and patients to control them like chihuahuas.

Forget it lah.

Must spend life studying smart things. Which is the financial markets and system. Where money flows and works.

My knowledge is so useless that i cant even use it to treat myself and family cos of "ethical reasons".

What crap right? Own father cannot be trusted to treat own son or daughter? Fuck off man. But thats the way it is.

Whereas if you trained as trader by Citibank or HSBC you can retire and use same skills and knowledge trade your own portfolio.

Maybe time to set up industry disrupter. DIY doctor and surgeon. But likely I will get arrested and go to jail.
 

nirvarq

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Maybe time to set up industry disrupter. DIY doctor and surgeon. But likely I will get arrested and go to jail.

There are many other variants and systems of co-operation, affiliation, Clinics chains, suppliers etc that's within the law. You're not very business minded but you have the medical qualifications which is a plus if you divert a bit of it into medical businesses too.
 

nayr69sg

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There are many other variants and systems of co-operation, affiliation, Clinics chains, suppliers etc that's within the law. You're not very business minded but you have the medical qualifications which is a plus if you divert a bit of it into medical businesses too.
Actually medical qualifications are a hindrance. Cos too afraid to lose it. Also with it many restrictions. Need to be ethical etc.

You are quite right not business minded. I never studied business or had a mentor of any kind.

And ever since got this medical licence in Canada feel more inhibited than liberated in thinking.

It is the nature of medical profession.

You see why the drs say lockdown? Be cautious?

Very typical.

As long as I command a relatively high annual income working as a dr it is hard to justify plunging into something else.

But i see your point.

I think i listen to the pros here about stocks fits my time and effort available. Also trade stock dont worry lose medical licence lah.
 

ginfreely

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Don't look back lah. I find history for me is filled with regrets.

Look forward.

Trouble is I spent my life learning all useless knowledge and information.

good we have smart friends here can give some tips.

I have learned that in life it is not about working hard and studying hard and ALL THAT FUCKING BULLSHIT.

It is learning the right information and networking with the correct people and being able to invest in the monetary system that gets people rich.

Think about it. Money is an idea. Man created this idea called a monetary system to exchange efforts and work and goods for an idea which can be symbolised by a paper or coin.

This system is now widespread and has so many forms. Stocks etc.

What better way than to udnerstand the inner workings of this system and profiteer directly from it?

The suckers are those who do all the actual work etc.

But truth is you need money to be able to work the monetary system. Or at least friends or relationships connected to money.
No regrets I am just reminiscing like what @eatshitndie did about 2018 and wonder why as an early fan of elon musk and spacex then why didn’t I even think of buying Tesla shares? Luckily since last year I have learnt from smart Angmoh the best in youtube to trade options and have very satisfying performance todate.
 

ginfreely

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No regrets I am just reminiscing like what @eatshitndie did about 2018 and wonder why as an early fan of elon musk and spacex then why didn’t I even think of buying Tesla shares? Luckily since last year I have learnt from smart Angmoh the best in youtube to trade options and have very satisfying performance todate.
And btw the Angmoh youtuber I learnt from is a school teacher in real life. Angmoh the best!
 

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For maybe 10 years there was no competition except nissan leaf fir tesla but now its getting criwded wrt battery powered cars especially from china manufacturers.
 
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