He was skeptical of Covid-19. Now, from his hospital bed, he posts videos on social media urging others to wear their masks

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He was skeptical of Covid-19. Now, from his hospital bed, he posts videos on social media urging others to wear their masks

Updated 9:35 PM ET, Tue January 5, 2021


(CNN)A man who tested positive for the coronavirus after Christmas has posted several videos on social media warning others to wear their masks and learn from his mistake.
"I didn't think masks would make that much of a difference," Chuck Stacey told CNN on Tuesday. "I was wrong."
Stacey is currently in a Florida hospital for the second time since testing positive on December 27, 2020.
The 50-year-old told CNN when the pandemic started he equated the virus to a really bad flu and didn't take many precautions to protect himself.
"I admit it I was wrong," he said. "This has been brutal. I never knew that the human body could hurt so bad."

Stacey's wife also tested positive, but has been able to manage her symptoms at home.
On Monday, however, Stacey was rushed to the hospital for the second time and placed on oxygen.
The computer shop owner said his body was so weak from the virus that at home he would pass out when he stood up. He also said he had severe dehydration and body chills to the point of causing muscle spasms.
"Yesterday, was horrifying," he said. "The doctor put me on high flow oxygen and if that didn't work they would have to intubate me. It was very scary."
From his hospital bed, Stacey posted videos to his social media urging others to wear masks. Although he isn't sure where he contracted the virus, and probably never will, he said he believes wearing a mask would've helped to prevent it and spread it to others.
"My grandfather said 'live life with no regrets,'" he said. "I definitely regret I didn't have a different opinion on how this would impact everyone."
Since the pandemic began, Florida has recorded more than 1.3 million coronavirus cases and 22,188 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University data.
Stacey said he started changing his views on the virus when cases and death tolls started to rise in Florida in the early summer. He heeded warnings to take precautions while out running errands like social distancing and hand sanitizing. He also started working from home.
But he didn't think face masks would make much of a difference in protection, despite warnings from health officials. He says he suffers from claustrophobia, and felt he wouldn't be able to get over that fear to wear a mask. Instead, he opted to wear a face shield.
"Once this got real, I wanted to wear mask," he said. "At first, I didn't think it was going to do any good and then I wanted to wear one but couldn't with my claustrophobia."
A face shield is not recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as a proper form of protection to slow the spread of coronavirus. A face shield is primarily used to protect the eyes of the person wearing it, according to the CDC.
"Face shields have large gaps below and alongside the face, where your respiratory droplets may escape and reach others around you," reads the CDC's guidance on appropriate face coverings. "At this time, we do not know how much protection a face shield provides to people around you."
Stacey hopes to get out of the hospital soon but he says he might still have to be on oxygen, even at home, until he fully recovers.
His fear of wearing a mask has gone away, he said.
"The fear of covid is worse then the claustrophobia."
 
It makes not a scrap of difference whether you wear a mask or lock yourself in your bedroom. Viruses spread. There is nothing you can do about it.

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City lawyer's tale: They did everything right and still got sick
CAROLYNE KUBWA

6-8 minutes


They did everything right, even went to extremes to prevent infection. They still caught Covid-19.
Nairobi lawyer Eddy Orinda, 41, shares his Covid-19 experience, saying we should always be our brother’s keeper.
He, his surgeon wife Faith Orinda, their six-year-old son and 13-year-old daughter all tested positive and got sick. All have recovered.
Orinda, a commercial lawyer and a legal epidemiologist, said the family has always been health-conscious and keen on avoiding the spread of infectious diseases.
A legal epidemiologist studies the law as a factor in the cause, distribution and prevention of disease and injury.
As his wife is a surgeon, the family is even more careful.
The family has always taken extra health precautions, which they increased when the first Covid-19 case was confirmed in March.
“We got ourselves into a lockdown before the official lockdown, cancelled non-essential engagements and followed the WHO protocols on Covid-19,” lawyer Orinda told the Star.
They developed their own house rules, including a head-to-toe bath for anyone coming from outside and immediately washing laundry with disinfectant.
They cleaned their shoes with diluted bleach before storing them and did the same with parcels, keys and other items.
“Given all these precautions, our experience contracting the virus surprises everyone who knows us, but again, little is still know about this virus,” he said.
Orinda said there’s little information about what to do if you test positive. There’s also little information about where to get free testing, as many Kenyans can’t afford tests that can cost more than Sh10,000.
“We would have wished to keep our experience private as with any other health issue,” Orinda said.
“But the question, ‘Do you know someone who has Covid-19?’ informed my decision to go public. I hoped to alert our loved ones, both family and friends, that Covid-19 has hit close to home and that it was at home.”
Questions by the public confirmed his fears regarding lack of public health education.
There are people who will get the virus and not even realise it, some will treat it as a flu, some will get tested, find out they’re positive and be fine, the lawyer said.
Unfortunately, many may not have access to treatment if they get seriously ill.
“We called for an ambulance the night that I was taken ill but there were no beds in any isolation room. My wife is a doctor, she quickly isolated me and took every precaution to protect herself and the children,” Orinda said.
She sought help from her colleagues and a group of doctors who are mothers, Doctor Mum KE, where she got support and advice on how to manage every symptom.
But what about most others whose spouses are not physicians?
He expressed thanks to Dr Mola Lola, Dr Kisia and the family physician Dr Mogere at AAR.
“We went to see the doctor and twice the results of other investigations were unremarkable, in fact, I’d never had such great results.”
They felt reassured and went home but a week later the symptoms persisted and a Covid-19 test was recommended.
All tested positive.
“We would have infected many people during that one week of not knowing what we were treating. I’m glad my wife’s high level of suspicion made us continue self-isolation and home treatment for Covid-19,” Orinda said.
The country cannot have enough beds to handle a pandemic and little is being done to prepare the public for home care to deal with the mild to moderate infections, he said.
“This is causing panic and affecting everyone psychologically. Stress affects immunity by lowering the body’s ability to fight diseases, so how do we expect to win a war with already wounded soldiers?” he asked.
Orinda said the discomfort was like inhaling water while swimming or showering. He compared it to the childhood incident when a fizzy drink comes out through the nose.
Imagine experiencing that for days. “Remember, this has nothing to do with testing” involving nasal swabs, he said.
“Everyone in my family experienced different symptoms, mostly headache, muscle pain, loss of the senses of taste and smell, loss of appetite, stuffy nose, dry lips despite high fluid intake.”
Orinda’s six-year-old son coped better than anyone and his symptoms – headache, stomach pains and a low-grade fever – lasted only for 24 hours.
His 13-year-old daughter was better than expected for teenagers. It felt like a bad flu, then she developed insomnia, probably due to anxiety.
His wife still experiences “brain fog” and fatigue that affects her normal life but she didn’t have a fever.
“My experience was horrible. Some days it felt like malaria, some days like typhoid, some days like flu and some days a combination of all of them. Most of the time, I wasn’t sure what I was experiencing,” Orinda said.
He said he is anxious about the quality of life in the future, especially because it isn’t clear what the long-term effects of Covid-19 are.
“All the same, I’m happy to be alive.”
Asked about lessons from his experience, Orinda said it is important to always check on your neighbours, especially when their routine changes.
“When we decided to inform some of our neighbors, it was sad to realise that one family had already suffered from Covid-19. We felt bad because we had noticed that no one had come out of the house, not even for a while, but we assumed everything was okay.”
He said it’s good to share information and be open about your experience. “You might just help someone be safe or better still save a life.”
He shared their experience on social media and realised how much people are lacking in public health education, especially on what should be done if someone tests positive or suspects they have Covid-19.
“We need to ensure that we are in good general health. It’s confirmed that underlying conditions like diabetes and hypertension can complicate Covid-19, affecting the prognosis.
“If there was ever a time for lifestyle changes to be taken seriously it is now. It takes time and dedication, but that is the only sensible thing to do,” Orinda said.
He advises:
Go for a general check-up to rule out any underlying conditions, and most important, have them under control and keep safe.
Boost your immunity now, so your body is able to fight should you be infected.
Take your Vitamins C supplements and eat fruits and vegetables rich in Vitamin C like kiwi, pineapples, pawpaw, oranges, baobab, broccoli and others.
Increase Vitamin D intake through egg yolks, cod liver oil and so on. Eat a balanced meal.
Get plenty of sleep, laugh more and pray.
 
washingtonpost.com

A hypervigilant mom followed every health guideline. She still caught the coronavirus.
Caitlin Gibson

8-10 minutes


It was the Thursday night before Memorial Day weekend when Rebecca Drobis, a 43-year-old mother of an infant daughter in Northwest Washington, was suddenly awakened by a faint feeling of chills and wondered whether she might be getting sick.
Drobis, a freelance photographer (she has previously worked for The Washington Post), had done everything she could think of to avoid the novel coronavirus. Her experience, recounted in a recent interview, captures how even a mild case of covid-19 can still be a harrowing ordeal — and how the myriad unknowns of the illness leave its victims without a clear sense of closure or control.
The following account has been edited for length and clarity.
We took the pandemic very seriously right from the outset. My husband’s brother was stationed with the Navy in Beijing, so we’d been following the pandemic very closely since January. My daughter, Rosie, was 7 months old in March. Babies under the age of 1 are considered in the high-risk category. My parents are in their 70s, and we’re very close with them. They used to watch my daughter once a week, and we decided right away to have them stop coming over.
My father is a retired doctor, so we’ve always been hyper-aware of germs and washing our hands, and after you have a newborn, you’re just crazy about wiping everything down. I ordered masks right away. We stopped going to the grocery store. We had everything delivered. We took the stay-at-home orders very seriously.
We were only leaving our house to go for a walk. Sometimes, to maintain distance, I would push Rosie’s stroller into the bike lane or the street. You make these decisions every time you go out: Is the danger from an oncoming car or from all the people around us who aren’t wearing masks while walking their dogs? We do our best, but you can’t always stay six feet apart on the sidewalk.
I remember going to bed on Thursday night, May 21, feeling a little more tired than usual, and I had a little bit of an upset stomach, but nothing significant. And then I woke up in the middle of the night, and I definitely felt a little bit of chills, but not so much that I even got out of bed. When I got up in the morning, I was positive I had a fever. So I took my temperature, and it was 100.5 — low, but definitely a fever. I was immediately terrified.
I called my health-care provider at 7 a.m. Because I had the fever and I was also breast-feeding, I was able to get scheduled for a test at noon that day.
The test was really scary. It was pouring rain, and there was this person approaching the car wearing full PPE. It really hit me in that moment: This is what a global pandemic is. There are sick people, this woman is testing covid-positive people all day long, and she’s putting herself at risk. On every level, it suddenly felt really real. They give you this piece of paper when you leave the test that says, “Based on your history, we suspect that you are covid-positive.”
After the test, I pulled over, and I just started hysterically crying. I was so scared. How did this happen?
They recommend that you self-isolate. By that night, my fever was gone. But I stayed in my room. I began to think, “This was just a fluky thing, just bad timing to have a fever.”
When I woke up in the morning, I felt fine, I had no fever. I never had symptoms again after that. But then I got a call from the Kaiser covid care team, and they said, “You tested positive for covid-19.” My husband was shocked. We both cried. I’m thinking that I don’t know if I can live with myself if I gave it to my daughter. My husband immediately disinfected every single thing in the house, washing all of Rosie’s clothes, every one of her toys, everything I could have touched.
After 13 summers, one D.C. summer camp has reinvented itself by introducing a "pod" structure — groupings of children — so that campers can safely gather. (The Washington Post)
We figured of course my husband had it, of course I’d given it to my daughter. It was just a matter of — are we both going to get really sick? If we both get really sick, who is going to take care of Rosie? You start thinking about your life insurance. You’re thinking, “Thank God I did my will.”
My thoughts were oscillating between complete panic to helplessness, a lack of control. I also felt really dirty. I got in the shower and just was scrubbing myself. The idea of having a deadly virus in your body that could kill other people — that felt like a psychological nightmare.
It was also really surreal because it was Memorial Day weekend and the weather was so beautiful and there were so many parties. That Saturday night, from my vantage point in my bedroom, I could see three different parties on rooftops across the street from me. They were playing beer pong. I wanted to scream out the window, “What the hell are you doing? I have covid! Go home!”
My husband obviously had to get tested, so that was the only time I came downstairs, because I had to watch Rosie. They told him to not take her in the car seat, because when you take the test, it can release the virus into the car. So that was the worst. I changed my clothes. I washed my hands a thousand times. I put on gloves. I’m trying to stay six feet away from her as she’s on the floor playing and looking at me very curiously. She took a tumble because she wasn’t a good crawler yet, and I was not sure what to do. Do I go pick her up? Should I let her cry? Nothing felt right.
My husband tested negative. He was so certain that he got a false negative that he insisted on getting tested again. He tested negative twice. My brother and sister-in-law got tested, too, because we’d seen them outside in that socially distant way. No one spreads this intentionally. But the total lack of control is probably the thing that is the most humbling. You can do every single thing right and still wind up on the wrong side of the virus.
For days, I was just stuck in my room, waiting. It was a dark time. My daughter and I shared a wall. I’d hear her crying. I felt so torn. Especially when you’re nursing, your body is screaming, “Go get the baby!” And your mind is like, “Stay here, stay here.”
I was so stressed out that my milk started drying up, which was really sad. I would pump but get so little, and I felt so bad. It was the only thing I could give my daughter, and I couldn’t even give her that.
The first question everyone would ask is, “How do you think you got it?” The doctors asked, too. The inability to answer that question became paramount. All I did was try to figure out the answer, so that all of this could get tied up in a neat little bow, so we’d know what behavior to avoid going forward, what the lesson is. I explained every single thing we did: We disinfected our UPS packages. We quarantined our mail for four days before we touched it. The doctors said they were seeing this all the time — other people who had been completely isolated like we were and still wound up covid-positive.
I didn’t tell many people because I was surprised at how people rush to judge you: “Oh, you made different choices than I did.” That’s human nature. You try to separate yourself to figure out how you could not be that person. Some people would ask, “Was it a false positive?” But my antibody test results just came back positive.
After a week apart, I could finally be reunited with my husband and daughter. That morning on the eighth day, Rosie woke up and I ran in there, and she smiled at me, and it felt like such a relief. I felt so overwhelmed with pure joy. I was worried that she wouldn’t be interested in breast-feeding anymore, but she picked it right back up.
Where I’ve landed is that I’m okay with not knowing how this happened. This virus doesn’t fit neatly into any kind of system of order that makes sense. The whole experience has left me with a tremendous amount of pure gratitude and relief. I understand why all of the sacrifices, small and big, are so crucial. It’s not the most vibrant life that we’ve been living — but to me, what’s important is that I didn’t infect anyone else that I know of, and we are healthy, and we are doing what we need to do to keep other people safe.
 
foxnews.com

Washington mom says she still caught coronavirus despite taking slew of precautions to avoid it
Bradford Betz

3 minutes


A Washington state mother says she tested positive for the coronavirus earlier this year despite taking all of the necessary precautions to avoid getting infected.
Rebecca Drobis, 43, told The Washington Post her family took the pandemic “very seriously” from the beginning.
In this June 27, 2020, photo, people are tested in their in vehicles in Phoenix's western neighborhood of Maryvale in Phoenix for free COVID-19 tests organized by Equality Health Foundation, which focuses on care in underserved communities.

In this June 27, 2020, photo, people are tested in their in vehicles in Phoenix's western neighborhood of Maryvale in Phoenix for free COVID-19 tests organized by Equality Health Foundation, which focuses on care in underserved communities. (AP)
She said growing up with her father, a doctor, made her “hyper-aware of germs” and washing her hands. Likewise, her infant daughter, who was 7 months old in March, made her extra vigilant.
“My parents are in their 70s, and we’re very close with them. They used to watch my daughter once a week, and we decided right away to have them stop coming over,” Drobis said.
Her family ordered masks and stayed home, leaving only for an occasional walk. While outside, she made sure to maintain social distancing at all times. The family also stopped going to the grocery, having everything delivered.
But despite her best efforts, Drobis tested positive for COVID-19 in late May.
“After the test, I pulled over, and I just started hysterically crying. I was so scared. How did this happen?” Drobis told the Post.
Drobis’ husband disinfected everything in the house, their daughter’s clothes, toys, and everything Drobis could have possibly come into contact with.
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“We figured of course my husband had it, of course I’d given it to my daughter. It was just a matter of — are we both going to get really sick? If we both get really sick, who is going to take care of Rosie?” Drobis told The Post.
Drobis’ husband tested twice for COVID-19. Both times the results came back negative. Her extended family, likewise, got tested.
To this day, she remains unsure how she became infected with the virus but has come to be “okay with not knowing how this happened.”
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“This virus doesn’t fit neatly into any kind of system of order that makes sense. The whole experience has left me with a tremendous amount of pure gratitude and relief,” Dobris said. “I understand why all of the sacrifices, small and big, are so crucial.”
 
Don't worry about Covid the vast majority of those who test positive don't even know they have the virus.

However if you're fated to die from Covid it does not make a scrap of difference what you do so just live your life normally and enjoy the moment.
 
Don't worry about Covid the vast majority of those who test positive don't even know they have the virus.

However if you're fated to die from Covid it does not make a scrap of difference what you do so just live your life normally and enjoy the moment.
Stop all your bullshit here.. Putting on mask is definitely better than not wearing a mask n it's proven to be effective. If u are against wearing of mask, just keep it to yourself n stop influencing others constantly!
Good luck to u if a Covid19 fella coughs into your direction!
 
Stop all your bullshit here.. Putting on mask is definitely better than not wearing a mask n it's proven to be effective. If u are against wearing of mask, just keep it to yourself n stop influencing others constantly!
Good luck to u if a Covid19 fella coughs into your direction!

Actually masks make things worse and this is especially so with the cloth masks that everyone is wearing.

Even woke media like CNN started off by telling it like it is

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/02/health/surgeon-general-coronavirus-masks-risk-trnd/index.html

The narrative changed when governments realised that masks could be used as symbols of control over the general population.
 
principia-scientific.com

Medical Chief: Face masks can increase risk of infection | Principia Scientific Intl.


3 minutes


Published on October 11, 2020
Written by Chris Baynes
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Members of the public could be putting themselves more at risk from contracting coronavirus by wearing face masks, one of England’s most senior doctors has warned. Jenny Harries, deputy chief medical officer, said the masks could “actually trap the virus” and cause the person wearing it to breathe it in.
“For the average member of the public walking down a street, it is not a good idea” to wear a face mask in the hope of preventing infection, she added.
Sales of the masks have sky-rocketed since the Covid-19 outbreak began, with retailers including Boots and Amazon selling out of the products before the virus had even taken hold in the UK.
Asked about their effectiveness, Dr Harries told BBC News: “What tends to happen is people will have one mask. They won’t wear it all the time, they will take it off when they get home, they will put it down on a surface they haven’t cleaned.
“Or they will be out and they haven’t washed their hands, they will have a cup of coffee somewhere, they half hook it off, they wipe something over it.
“In fact, you can actually trap the virus in the mask and start breathing it in.”
Asked if people are putting themselves more at risk by wearing masks, Dr Harries added:
“Because of these behavioural issues, people can adversely put themselves at more risk than less.”
However, she said those who are advised to wear one by healthcare workers should follow their guidance. Demand for face masks in China, where the coronavirus outbreak began, exceeded 200 million a day in January, prompting manufacturers to cancel staff leave and increase wages to ramp up production.
But Jake Dunning, head of emerging infections and zoonoses [infectious disease spread between humans and animals] at Public Health England, told The Independent there was “very little evidence of a widespread benefit” from wearing them.
Face masks must be worn correctly, changed frequently, removed properly, disposed of safely and used in combination with good universal hygiene behaviour in order for them to be effective,” he added.
 
The law says wear a mask, so we wear a mask. Protect urself and others.
 
The Japanese already developed this good habit years ago! If they're having a cough, flu or feeling unwell, they'll put on mask in public to prevent themselves from infecting others. It's a very common sight in Japan.
So u saying u are right n the Japanese are all so silly all these while?
 
The Japanese already developed this good habit years ago! If they're having a cough, flu or feeling unwell, they'll put on mask in public to prevent themselves from infecting others. It's a very common sight in Japan.
So u saying u are right n the Japanese are all so silly all these while?
Yes. Wear masks only if you are unwell.
 
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