Serious [GPGT] The colour of my dental implant bridge does not match the colour of my surrounding real teeth, pls help

[Baimi]

i'm a guy, but u also agree it doesn't match the lower teeth right?

i want it to match the lower teeth

is it possible to ask the dentist to redo it? it's not my fault at all isn't it?

i hope i don't have to pay to redo it

I had 2 crowns done years ago at a dental clinic in Kallang Bahru, a young lady dentist.
I remembered she would take out a colour strip to match my teeth colour. The colour was perfect, my friends do not realise I had 2 crowns teeth.
The cost that time was $1000 for 2 crowns.
But I had 'extra service' her chest was rubbing my should when she worked on it.
I needed 4 visits.

 

[glockman]

I asked the auntie dentist what's the material, she said zirconia.

What you see in the picture is only days old. I only had these crowns installed few days ago.

If the dentist needs to remake it, first of all, who's going to bear the cost? Me?

And if she does so, how is she going to go about it?

What if she just does the same thing, simply hold up 2 sample teeth and ask me choose, that's all?

If that's what she is going to do, I am not doing it.

Because I am not going to do something which didn't work, twice. That's stupid, and would most probably end up unsatisfactory as well.

Why do the same mistake twice?

I always had no faith in her, it's my gut feeling. She's only a family dentist that kind.

OK noted. Zirconia contains ceramic. It's presently one of the more popular materials. I think mine are Zirconia too.

The dentist will custom order the crown from a manufacturer. Specific to your tooth shape, size and colour. Your dentist only had two sample colours? OMG! There has to be many more. Mine had samples of many shades of colour, and he picked it not me. He's an implant specialist.

Go back to your dentist and ask if she can fix this colour issue. I don't see how she is going to, since she only has two colour options. You are not supposed to bear the cost of replacement, it was her mistake. If that fails, go to another dentist, raise the issue with CASE and/or singapore dental association.

Trust your gut feel next time.

 

[orpisia]

OK noted. Zirconia contains ceramic. It's presently one of the more popular materials. I think mine are Zirconia too.

The dentist will custom order the crown from a manufacturer. Specific to your tooth shape, size and colour. Your dentist only had two sample colours? OMG! There has to be many more. Mine had samples of many shades of colour, and he picked it not me. He's an implant specialist.

Go back to your dentist and ask if she can fix this colour issue. I don't see how she is going to, since she only has two colour options. You are not supposed to bear the cost of replacement, it was her mistake. If that fails, go to another dentist, raise the issue with CASE and/or singapore dental association.

Trust your gut feel next time.

She could have had many more sample colours, but she only brought out 2 sample tooths for me to choose.

And after I chose it, she called up the lab.

I wonder whose fault is it now. Hers or possibly even the lab? Is there such thing as a lousy incompetent lab? Lousy lab technician?

I'm going to let the specialist who did the implant and bone grafting for me, know tomorrow.

I already had the gut feel that she sucked, all the way back since last year, because she had difficulty adjusting or shaving off excess material off the denture last time. The gap between my teeth was too small, but she forced it in with a lot of pressure.

She was a recommended contact. Now I know the hard way that not all recommendations are necessarily good.

I searched for her profile and it says she's in this line for over 30 years. But still suck. Probably because she has been doing only family dentistry.

 

[glockman]

She could have had many more sample colours, but she only brought out 2 sample tooths for me to choose.

And after I chose it, she called up the lab.

I wonder whose fault is it now. Hers or possibly even the lab? Is there such thing as a lousy incompetent lab? Lousy lab technician?

I'm going to let the specialist who did the implant and bone grafting for me, know tomorrow.

I already had the gut feel that she sucked, all the way back since last year, because she had difficulty adjusting or shaving off excess material off the denture last time. The gap between my teeth was too small, but she forced it in with a lot of pressure.

She was a recommended contact. Now I know the hard way that not all recommendations are necessarily good.

I searched for her profile and it says she's in this line for over 30 years. But still suck. Probably because she has been doing only family dentistry.

You should have stayed with the specialist who did the implant and bone grafting, for the crown. No worries lah, it can be fixed.

But you should at least let her know about it, she could and should fix the problem without you having to pay more money.

 

[Hanslesley73]

Either practice smiling with lower lip covering the lower teeth
or
use liquid paper lor...

 

[knnccb]

orpisia from edmw ? down there the advice no good?

 

[orpisia]

You should have stayed with the specialist who did the implant and bone grafting, for the crown. No worries lah, it can be fixed.

But you should at least let her know about it, she could and should fix the problem without you having to pay more money.

I thought that was the best way also, to just do everything under the specialist's care.

But the thing was, I was recommended in the 1st place to see the auntie dentist, who then referred me to the specialist, so I was considered still the auntie dentist's patient and then the arrangement was sort of like the final crowns was gonna be done by the auntie dentist, not the specialist.

That's how I understand it and how things went.

The specialist took care of the bone grafting and implant surgeries.

orpisia from edmw ? down there the advice no good?

Yes Bro, I'm banned there currently and I can't wait until I get unbanned to seek advice.

 

[knnccb]

Yes Bro, I'm banned there currently and I can't wait until I get unbanned to seek advice.

lol, everybody is banned there, dont worry its normal, if not banned is not normal

 

[knnccb]

The forummers are self proclaimed oral sex (not oral health) experts in their 70s .. wrong place to ask for dental advice

ya like moi 75yo toothless lau ahpek

 

[nightsafari]

i'm a guy, but u also agree it doesn't match the lower teeth right?

i want it to match the lower teeth

is it possible to ask the dentist to redo it? it's not my fault at all isn't it?

i hope i don't have to pay to redo it

it's not your fault, but if the dentist redoes it he's likely to screw it up again.

First go and talk to him. If he insists there's nothing wrong, I will take that as a warning sign and write off the money and find a better dentist to rectify the situation.

He can't fix it if he thinks it's right...

In the unlikely event that he says oh shit, that's abnormal, I know what went wrong and will fix it, then I will go back to him.

edit : I just read the rest. 2 colours to choose from? I wouldn't go back to her...

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Take up smoking!

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

She could have had many more sample colours, but she only brought out 2 sample tooths for me to choose.

And after I chose it, she called up the lab.

I wonder whose fault is it now. Hers or possibly even the lab? Is there such thing as a lousy incompetent lab? Lousy lab technician?

I'm going to let the specialist who did the implant and bone grafting for me, know tomorrow.

I already had the gut feel that she sucked, all the way back since last year, because she had difficulty adjusting or shaving off excess material off the denture last time. The gap between my teeth was too small, but she forced it in with a lot of pressure.

She was a recommended contact. Now I know the hard way that not all recommendations are necessarily good.

I searched for her profile and it says she's in this line for over 30 years. But still suck. Probably because she has been doing only family dentistry.

actually I am confused. Isn’t it when the dentist order the implants or bridge,they order a certain shade of color, then they still need to use a brush to touch up to be identical to your surrounding teeth? There is no way they can order something exactly like your surrounding teeth. I recall my dentist surgeon doing some follow up work when he put the implant beside my teeth to compare, touch up, then compare again.

 

[orpisia]

actually I am confused. Isn’t it when the dentist order the implants or bridge,they order a certain shade of color, then they still need to use a brush to touch up to be identical to your surrounding teeth? There is no way they can order something exactly like your surrounding teeth. I recall my dentist surgeon doing some follow up work when he put the implant beside my teeth to compare, touch up, then compare again.

When the implant crowns arrived, all she did was to "adjust" or shave off excess tooth/crown material because it was too high.

After she put it in, screwed in the crowns, she asked me to close my mouth. The first thing which I felt in my mouth was the crowns. That means it's too high. She said when I close my mouth, I must feel like everything is natural, that means all the teeth on the left and right sides, and the front, all bite down at the same time. So because I felt the implant crowns first, it's too high, she had to file it down or shave off the excess. Took like a long time to do it, like maybe 30 mins.

Which leads me to ask, is that how an implant should be like? The dentist needs to file down? Exactly the same thing happened when she did dentures for me last year, she also had to file. But for implant crowns also?

And because of her shaving off the excess crown material, if u look at the pic, the biting edges that part are all too whitish. Which is even more screwed up, people see they will know it's fake teeth.

That's all she did. She didn't do like what u said, comparing, touching up all that, nothing like that at all.

 

[orpisia]

it's not your fault, but if the dentist redoes it he's likely to screw it up again.

First go and talk to him. If he insists there's nothing wrong, I will take that as a warning sign and write off the money and find a better dentist to rectify the situation.

He can't fix it if he thinks it's right...

In the unlikely event that he says oh shit, that's abnormal, I know what went wrong and will fix it, then I will go back to him.

edit : I just read the rest. 2 colours to choose from? I wouldn't go back to her...

I'm going to see the auntie dentist again tomorrow.

I've thought of some outcomes:

After I complain to her about it,

1) she do the same thing over again, give me 2 sample tooths to choose the colour

2) she don't do anything about it

3) she does something to modify or change the colour

If it's 1, I am not comfortable about it, because it's the exact same thing she did which led to this unsatisfactory colour. How can she do it the same way? I can't let her do that right? If that is so what should I do? Should I just walk out?

I don't have confidence in her at all.

If I have to get new teeth and I have to spend more money, I am not rich, and spending money on new crowns will prevent me from doing other things in my personal life which requires my financial commitment.

All because of this screw up by her.

 

[orpisia]

actually I am confused. Isn’t it when the dentist order the implants or bridge,they order a certain shade of color, then they still need to use a brush to touch up to be identical to your surrounding teeth? There is no way they can order something exactly like your surrounding teeth. I recall my dentist surgeon doing some follow up work when he put the implant beside my teeth to compare, touch up, then compare again.

Hi Sirs,

I want to ask all of you, when the dental implants were installed for you, did the dentist or surgeon have had to "adjust" or use their instruments to remove excess crown material?

Because that auntie dentist did that on my crowns.

Or are implant crowns supposed to fit in more or less perfectly without "adjustment" by the dentist?

 

[orpisia]

You should have stayed with the specialist who did the implant and bone grafting, for the crown. No worries lah, it can be fixed.

But you should at least let her know about it, she could and should fix the problem without you having to pay more money.

Hi Sir,

when the dental implants were installed for you, did the dentist or surgeon have had to "adjust" or use their instruments to remove excess crown material?

Because that auntie dentist did that on my crowns.

Or are implant crowns supposed to fit in more or less perfectly without "adjustment" by the dentist?

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

Hi Sirs,

I want to ask all of you, when the dental implants were installed for you, did the dentist or surgeon have had to "adjust" or use their instruments to remove excess crown material?

Because that auntie dentist did that on my crowns.

Or are implant crowns supposed to fit in more or less perfectly without "adjustment" by the dentist?

it is a must for the dentist to do adjustments after installation. He will tell u to bite down on the mould and ask u to grind upper and lower teeth to gauge the fit.

 

[glockman]

Hi Sir,

when the dental implants were installed for you, did the dentist or surgeon have had to "adjust" or use their instruments to remove excess crown material?

Because that auntie dentist did that on my crowns.

Or are implant crowns supposed to fit in more or less perfectly without "adjustment" by the dentist?

If my memory serves me right, my dentist took off some material when he asked me to bite down and observed how well the top and bottom teeth converged. I think some final minor adjustments should be ok to ensure a perfect fit. These things are custom-made based on measurements taken from a mould of your tooth which could be off by half or a millimeter as an example.

So, have you managed to sort out the colour issue? With the auntie or with your specialist?

 

[orpisia]

it is a must for the dentist to do adjustments after installation. He will tell u to bite down on the mould and ask u to grind upper and lower teeth to gauge the fit.

If my memory serves me right, my dentist took off some material when he asked me to bite down and observed how well the top and bottom teeth converged. I think some final minor adjustments should be ok to ensure a perfect fit. These things are custom-made based on measurements taken from a mould of your tooth which could be off by half or a millimeter as an example.

So, have you managed to sort out the colour issue? With the auntie or with your specialist?

Went to see both the auntie dentist and the specialist just now.

Went to see Dr Auntie dentist first. I told her the colour doesn't match. She said few weeks back when she asked me to choose 1 of the sample tooth colours, was to match the upper teeth. At that time few weeks back, I remember she didn't even ask me, she didn't tell me also that she wanted to match the upper teeth.

Then I told her, I want it to match the lower teeth now. But she sort of warned me, told me that she can do that, but the difference would be obvious. This was something I don't understand. If she means by matching with the lower teeth, it won't match the top teeth and it'll be obvious; what's the problem? I want it to match the lower teeth is enough what, what has it got to do with matching the top teeth? If bottom and top look different colour, it's not a problem what. The problem is, now the crowns colour don't match the bottom teeth and the difference is obvious. So if change to all bottom teeth including crowns to the same colour, what's it got to do with top teeth?

So I suggested to her that we seek the opinion of Dr Specialist(whose clinic is located just few doors away). Dr Auntie dentist agreed.

I also showed Dr Auntie the picture of my old bridge. The old bridge was yellow and I wanted the implant crowns yellow also, just like my lower teeth are all yellow. I told her that old bridge was in my mouth for over 10 years and no one looked or stared at it or came up to ask me if it was fake.

Dr Auntie took several sample tooths, put it beside the lower teeth to compare, and used her hp to take pics.

Then Dr Auntie, Dr Specialist and myself met up.

Dr Auntie explained to Dr Specialist that she made the crowns to match the upper teeth, and that now I wanted to match the lower teeth.

After talking back and forth, Dr Specialist said it's like my black tshirt and blue jeans. If it was him, he would like to match my blue jeans. He said if it was him, he prefers it to match my lower teeth. I immediately concurred.

Anyway, when Dr Auntie told me my next appointment would be in October because she busy fully booked, I immediately reacted "huh so long!". Then I somehow couldn't tahan, I told her because of all this dragging and uncompleted dental stuff, I cannot move on in my life. Then my eyes turned red and teary just now. Then I left.

Then 1 hr later her assistant called me to tell me got patient cancel his appointment, then told me tomorrow I can go back to Dr Auntie to get the crowns removed. She gotta make new crowns again.

 

[laksaboy]

There are many things you can save money on in life... dental visits shouldn't be one of them.