Serious Islamic Female Genital Mutilation: 95% Arab women have never had an orgasm in the last few hundred years!

[Loofydralb]

So funny. Non muslims here having a discussion about Islam which they have no inkling about.

 

[syed putra]

I doubt if muslims even understand about the relevancy of genital mutilation.
For many, it's now a health issue.a painful torture.

 

[Loofydralb]

I doubt if muslims even understand about the relevancy of genital mutilation.
For many, it's now a health issue.a painful torture.

You are easily the person to go to if you want to learn about anything but Islam.

 

[frenchbriefs]

They only come for Allah.

 

[frenchbriefs]

You are easily the person to go to if you want to learn about anything but Islam.

That's like a unintentional compliment.

 

[duluxe]

So 5% of the Arab women committed apostasy because their clits were not circumcised?

5% are christian arabs.

 

[JohnTan]

If you ask me, nope.this is based on experienced of those who died momentarily and revived,

So what must people do in order to enter heaven?

 

[Valium]

So what must people do in order to enter heaven?

Don't anyhow expose the aurat and release smell.

 

[Loofydralb]

That's like a unintentional compliment.

Yes if you are insincere about learning Islam, that will be to you, a compliment.

 

[duluxe]

So funny. Non muslims here having a discussion about Islam which they have no inkling about.

You are a muslim and a true one, so what is your understanding of the religion and medical health aspects of Female Genital Mutilation?

 

[Loofydralb]

You are a muslim and a true one, so what is your understanding of the religion and medical health aspects of Female Genital Mutilation?

Thank you for asking. Basic premise must be establish if you want to understand how we get guidance. It is from 1st, the Quran and 2nd the Hadith (the recorded saying and witness records of what the Prophet (peace be upon him) said and did).

For example, the Quran mandates prayer but nowhere is mentioned the exact details of how prayers are to be done. Those details are found in the Hadith.

And so on. The Quran decrees injunctions but the details of how it is to be understood, carried out are explained and shown by the Prophet (peace be upon him) and recorded in the Hadith.

And mind you, the Hadith is a complex science where researcher/scholars scour every minute detail of a narration to establish its authenticity. For example, a narration carries with it a chain of narrators. Its is investigated who are the narrators, when did they live, where did they live, their lives histories (their movements/relationships, marriages/children, etc). It is further corroborated with other evidence like did other narrators describe this person at that time? Did he actually live at that location and who are other witnesses. And when a story or narrations come from different sources and all narrators are proven not to be liars, the the Hadith becomes a strong evidence that the Prophet (peace be upon him) did and said that which they narrate.

So back to your question about FGM. Simple answer is NO. The Quran does not demand it of women. Muslims do it out of their ancient cultural practise that they carry over into Islam.

Thus if you want to follow Islam's guidance, open the book and scour it in detail with many cross referencing.

Allah knows best.

 

[JohnTan]

For example, the Quran mandates prayer but nowhere is mentioned the exact details of how prayers are to be done. Those details are found in the Hadith.

And so on. The Quran decrees injunctions but the details of how it is to be understood, carried out are explained and shown by the Prophet (peace be upon him) and recorded in the Hadith.

In other words, the quran isn't complete. If not, why need hadith?

The quran was compiled a couple of times by 650 AD. The hadith were compiled around 810 AD, about 150 years later. So for about 150 years, moslems were likely to be praying to their god in a different way since there is no hadith.

Thus if you want to follow Islam's guidance, open the book and scour it in detail with many cross referencing.

Allah knows best.

You mean we need to open two books, quran and hadith. According to you, quran alone isn't sufficient because it lacks details.

 

[syed putra]

The hadith was what turned " organised way of life" into a religion of rituals.

 

[Loofydralb]

Though I am not the best person to answer but I shall try In Sha Allah.

In other words, the quran isn't complete. If not, why need hadith?

The laws are complete.

By analogy, similar to our Constitution. It lacks details of implementation. That is why each Ministry has rules and regulation for implementation which is not found in the Constitution.

The quran was compiled a couple of times by 650 AD. The hadith were compiled around 810 AD, about 150 years later. So for about 150 years, moslems were likely to be praying to their god in a different way since there is no hadith.

Quran is actually memorized and was compiled in written form during the time of the 3rd Caliph Uthman (may Allah be pleased with him).

You mean we need to open two books, quran and hadith. According to you, quran alone isn't sufficient because it lacks details.

The laws and injunctions are complete but details are in Hadith.

Allah knows best.

 

[JohnTan]

The laws are complete.

By analogy, similar to our Constitution. It lacks details of implementation. That is why each Ministry has rules and regulation for implementation which is not found in the Constitution.

Reasons that fit an analogy doesn't automatically make it fit our discussion.

If God feels that exact details for praying is important, then those details should be in His Word, and not left for men to figure it out. The fact that men need to come up with a guide book on God's instructions already means those instructions are not perfect.

Your quran was compiled by men years after muhammad was gone. The hadith, the implementation of the quran, was written another 150 years later. The hadith compilers can't ask anyone if they compiled or wrote it correctly. So, nearly all of islam's detailed rituals are from the man made hadith. Ministry civil servants and lawyers can always ask the Founding Fathers of the same generation if their intepretation of the Constitution is correct. The hadith compilers can't.

In those 150 years gap between quran and hadith, moslems during that time had no details as to how to pray since the hadiths havent' been compiled yet. Hence, they were likely to be doing different set of rituals compared to moslems today.

 

[Loofydralb]

The Constitution is written by men. The Ministry is helmed by men of the same generation. If they have queries, they can ask the Founding Fathers if the implementation is correct.

And after subsequent generations what you are left with is the Constitution. No more 1st generation to ask questions from.

That is why Quran is the Constitution and unchangeable since the time of the Prophet (pbuh).

Your quran was compiled by men years after muhammad was gone. The hadith, the implementation of the quran, was written another 150 years later. The hadith compilers can't ask anyone if they compiled or wrote it correctly. quran compilers of that era are long gone. So, nearly all of islam's detailed rituals are from the man made hadith.

The written compilation was done about 14 years after the Prophet (pbuh) died. In the meantime, they recited the complete Quran by memory as is in Arab dessert tradition to memorise works and poetry hours long and can be recited back in exact order.

The Hadith are from the companions of the Prophet (pbuh) that number in the hundreds and they struggle to risk their lives for the religion, so why should we not trust them?

Anyway the men are proven to actually exist unlike the writers of the Gospels in the Bible who we don't actually know who they are and some of the verses are even forgeries.

 

[JohnTan]

That is why Quran is the Constitution and unchangeable since the time of the Prophet (pbuh).

That's an empty boast by moslems not backed by facts.

Islamic sources[edit]
Records from Islamic sources suggest that before Caliph Uthman's standardization, after which variants were allegedly burned, the Quran may have contained either 116 chapters (Ubayy Ibn Ka'ab's codex) or 111 chapters (Ibn Ma'sud's codex).[107]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Quran#Completeness

The Hadith are from the companions of the Prophet (pbuh) that number in the hundreds and they struggle to risk their lives for the religion, so why should we not trust them?

By their own records, muhammad's companions were bandits, they turned upon each other after muhammad's death and fought each other for power. Not exactly the kind of people we can trust. Trusting them is like trusting UMNO.

Anyway the men are proven to actually exist unlike the writers of the Gospels in the Bible who we don't actually know who they are and some of the verses are even forgeries.

They are only "forgeries" because you don't like it that Christians view muhammad as fake prophet and their teachings are contradictory to Muhammad's character.
Islam as a religion focuses a lot on the external, and has little interest on the internal hearts and attitude of people on the inside.

"For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." - Hebrews 4 : 12

 

[Loofydralb]

Like I said. If you want to learn about Islam, learn it from genuine muslim sources, not anti muslim websites that have islamophobic agenda.

 

[syed putra]

Do We really need a book if we can communicate with God for guidance?

 

[Leckmichamarsch]

That's cruel. That's why I only choose Chinese girls and torment them till their eyes go white and saliva drips from the mouth and make them shudder continuously.

SATANIC camelfucker like to hv haram dreams while fucking his own mothers n dotters until their saliver drip n eyes popped + roll