Serious Why do many middle-aged men like me have absolutely NO FRIENDS - and what toll does it take on our health?

Actually I dont have friends who borrow $ from me. They have enough of their own money.

The only time I would consider something close to having a friend get my money was asychee who sold me a townhouse in Edmonton for a premium.

But he did help my family settle in Edmonton. So I consider the premium for the property as fees for his help.

Other than that no, I have not had friends asking me to lend them money at all.
So all my friends are shitty friends.can i be your friend?lol
 
It is ok and I am not angry now. When we see each other outside, we are like strangers.

This type of smelly sinkie man. He think he earn $7000 plus a month is damned great and always compared himself to the lower income earner :thumbsdown:
Do you earn much less than $7000?

Actually this money problem with friends is dependent on what type of friends you choose.

Who you choose to spend time with often is a reflection of who you are.

So choose people who are successful and who you want to aspire to be as your friends. Your social circle plays a big part as to what kind of work or business you will be in.
 
Do you earn much less than $7000?

Actually this money problem with friends is dependent on what type of friends you choose.

Who you choose to spend time with often is a reflection of who you are.

So choose people who are successful and who you want to aspire to be as your friends. Your social circle plays a big part as to what kind of work or business you will be in.

I earned about $5000 a month a decade ago when we are younger tend to be more naïve. But now at middle aged liao we are wiser :D
 
I earned about $5000 a month a decade ago when we are younger tend to be more naïve. But now at middle aged liao we are wiser :biggrin:

With all respect to you, you were young then and much wiser now. But would you agree that often when it comes to unhappiness with friends about money it is because one party offers resources and funds with an expectation of some sort of return.

If people only lent money or "invested" with friends with the expectation that they will get nothing back or in return then either people would NOT part with their money at all or would just not be disappointed if they did.

These are things parents should teach their children when it comes to friends too.
 
One simple rule. If you value a friendship or relationship eg relative then NEVER do any business with them.

I have heard of people who like to hire their friends or relatives to be their real estate agent. Or help them invest their money.

This is very easy to go wrong.

Let's say you got your uncle to be your agent to sell your flat. Say there is little activity. What are you going to do? Scold your uncle? Tell him you are getting a new agent? Then it becomes a case of having to ruin the relationship or stand to lose your money.

Dont put yourself in that situation.

You should hire an agent or staff because they can do a good job. Not because of friendship or relationship.

Often excuses I hear is "oh my friend said he will charge me less".

Again another foolish idea. Dont be the ai Chee ai pee type. Hire the best people to get it done. They charge more for a reason. And if it doesnr work out you can fire them without remorse.
 
With all respect to you, you were young then and much wiser now. But would you agree that often when it comes to unhappiness with friends about money it is because one party offers resources and funds with an expectation of some sort of return.

If people only lent money or "invested" with friends with the expectation that they will get nothing back or in return then either people would NOT part with their money at all or would just not be disappointed if they did.

These are things parents should teach their children when it comes to friends too.

Yes when we lend money to a friend, we will expect them to help us when we are in needs and not just a verbal gratitude alone. Based on my life experience, these "friends" will never help you in return. For example, when one is hospitalize or a kin had passed on. These "friends" will find excuses not to visit you in hospital or attend a funeral of your relative. For my situation a decade ago that is "friend" only take care of senior management people in the society and not you.

So I learned never lend money or invest anything with friends, another long time friend of mine who earn about $15,000 as sales manager told me that he only provided a basic living for his wife and kids no other luxuries at all. He never buy me a coffee despite knowing each other for 20 years but he helped to be my character referee.

Also never go with big spending with friends, examples will be high end KTV nightclubs or expensive restaurants because nothing come good after all these spending :biggrin:
 
LKY destroyed social adhesion among Sinkies, divide and conquer things.

Today you are friendless becos PAP made this to you.

Who did u voted?
 
Thank you for very generous and super delicious and sumptuous treat.

You are most welcome. Thank you for the words of encouragement all those years. I owe part of my success in making it in Canada to you.
 
You are most welcome. Thank you for the words of encouragement all those years. I owe part of my success in making it in Canada to you.

More than 99.5 per cent is your perseverance, determination, and willingness to take the necessary steps to emigrate, as well as to start life at close to the bottom (working at a windows manufacturer), and a new and more satisfied life in Canada.
I am pleased that you considered the alternatives, and considered my suggestion that you attempt the medical exams in Alberta, go through the residence program, and qualify as a MD in Alberta (because you can always return to work where you were before). Getting the necessary professional qualifications and accreditation is an achievement.
Of all the immigrants whom I have spoken to, not one is as willing to see the long term future, and work towards it.
You and your family have done it very well, and deserved the success and comfort you enjoy.
I am very proud of you.
We thank you for the best and most memorable dinner that we have ever had.
Wish your family and you, many happy, healthy, Blessed years.
May God be generous with His Grace upon all of you.
 
Yes when we lend money to a friend, we will expect them to help us when we are in needs and not just a verbal gratitude alone. Based on my life experience, these "friends" will never help you in return. For example, when one is hospitalize or a kin had passed on. These "friends" will find excuses not to visit you in hospital or attend a funeral of your relative. For my situation a decade ago that is "friend" only take care of senior management people in the society and not you.

So I learned never lend money or invest anything with friends, another long time friend of mine who earn about $15,000 as sales manager told me that he only provided a basic living for his wife and kids no other luxuries at all. He never buy me a coffee despite knowing each other for 20 years but he helped to be my character referee.

Also never go with big spending with friends, examples will be high end KTV nightclubs or expensive restaurants because nothing come good after all these spending :biggrin:
When you do lend $$, don't expect gratitude in return. Just take it as charity on your part. Any return gratitude is a bonus. No expectations, no disappointments.
Similarly for raising kids. Just take it as parental duty. Less expectations, less disappointments.
 
When you do lend $$, don't expect gratitude in return. Just take it as charity on your part. Any return gratitude is a bonus. No expectations, no disappointments.
Similarly for raising kids. Just take it as parental duty. Less expectations, less disappointments.

Now I do not lend $$ to friends and spend a cent on women. Charity begin at home.

Ok it's a parental duty and I will tell my kids if you all don't look after me at old age. I can make a will and give my assets to someone else :biggrin:
 
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Now I do not lend $$ to friends and spend a cent on women. Charity begin at home.

Ok it's a parental duty and I will tell my kids if you all don't look after me at old age. I can make a will and give my assets to someone else :biggrin:
A very threatening parent lol
 
Now I do not lend $$ to friends and spend a cent on women. Charity begin at home.

Ok it's a parental duty and I will tell my kids if you all don't look after me at old age. I can make a will and give my assets to someone else :biggrin:

I think that's fair.

If you dont have enough money for yourself and surplus to give to kids then dont give anything go kids!

You cant be giving to your kids at your own expense.

That's the problem with people who give expecting return in kind.
 
Fake goes with fakes make good fake friends, right Mr. Fake doctor...

Do you earn much less than $7000?

Actually this money problem with friends is dependent on what type of friends you choose.

Who you choose to spend time with often is a reflection of who you are.

So choose people who are successful and who you want to aspire to be as your friends. Your social circle plays a big part as to what kind of work or business you will be in.
 
I think that's fair.

If you dont have enough money for yourself and surplus to give to kids then dont give anything go kids!

You cant be giving to your kids at your own expense.

That's the problem with people who give expecting return in kind.

I just want to keep this Asian values that children has to look after and provide for their parents in old age.
 
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