SCDF case: Finger pointing, but no one to blame in the end?

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SINGAPORE — The Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) commanders could not have known that Corporal Kok Yuen Chin would be thrown into a pump well, as there was no plan to do so and they did not order it.
And the fatal incident would not have happened if another officer, Staff Sergeant Staff Sergeant Muhammad Nur Fatwa Mahmood, had not pushed the full-time national serviceman into the 12m-deep well.

This was the case that the defence lawyers of First Senior Warrant Officer Nazhan Mohamed Nazi and Lieutenant Chong Chee Boon Kenneth laid out during their trial on Monday (June 10) afternoon, as they took turns questioning the prosecution’s first witness, Staff Sergeant Al-Khudaifi Chang.
Nazhan, 41, and Chong, 38, were charged with not preventing their subordinates from making Corporal Kok enter the well on May 13 last year. Chong was the commander of his team, Rota 3, at Tuas View Fire Station, while Nazhan was the deputy commander.

Corporal Kok was three days away from completing his National Service stint with the SCDF. The 22-year-old, who did not know how to swim, later died from drowning.
THE CROSS-EXAMINATION
Earlier on Monday, Staff Sergeant Chang testified that he thought he and his teammates were merely trying to scare Corporal Kok while carrying him to the well. He added that they did not intend to throw him in.
Chong had remained in the watch room while they carried Corporal Kok out to the well. At some point, he opened the window, stuck his head out and told them not to film anything.
Chong then closed the window and did not look into their direction anymore.
While cross-examining Staff Sergeant Chang, Chong’s lawyer, Mr Wee Pan Lee, asked him if Chong could have identified the individuals when he stuck his head out.
Mr Wee contended that Chong would not be able to do so as everyone had their backs to him, and would not be able to tell if Corporal Kok was in the group.
Staff Sergeant Chang agreed that Corporal Kok was blocked from Chong’s view, as he was surrounded by people. Chong opened the window after they set Corporal Kok down on the ground as well.
Mr Wee also asked Staff Sergeant Chang whether anyone in the watch room could hear what was happening outside if the window was closed.
“If shouting, yes, but not normal conversation,” Staff Sergeant Chang replied.
He noted that neither Chong or Nazhan was present earlier that morning in the locker room, when Fatwa asked Corporal Kok if he was “ready to go into the well, or kolam”.
Corporal Kok was also well-liked among the team, and the atmosphere in the watch room later, where he was presented with a cake and a plaque, was light-hearted, Staff Sergeant Chang said.
WAS IT RAGGING?
Nazhan’s lawyer, Mr Singa Retnam, questioned whether Staff Sergeant Chang knew that what they were doing constituted ragging. At the time, anti-ragging posters were placed around the premises of the fire station.
One of them read: “We want no ragging in the SCDF. It is a punishable offence.” It also said that offenders would be “severely dealt with” by detention, dismissal from the SCDF, a reduction in rank, or a fine.
“Nothing here says anything of criminal prosecution,” Mr Singa said. “Did you think (what you were doing) was ragging?”
“No. If it was ragging, we would have thrown him in forcefully in the first place but we just placed him outside (the well), not knowing anyone would push him in,” Staff Sergeant Chang responded.
“Would you say that if Fatwa did not push him in, this incident may not have happened?” Mr Singa asked.
Staff Sergeant Chang said yes, adding that no one had pressurised Corporal Kok to enter the well.
The trial, which is expected to go on till June 21, continues on Tuesday.
Prosecutors said they will call Fatwa, who is currently serving his prison sentence, and Staff Sergeant Ng Meng Kiat, who found Corporal Kok at the bottom of the well, as their next witnesses.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...unaware-nsf-would-be-pushed-well-says-defence

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The dead will never RIP with this charade.
 
I thought the law is clear that soldiers are granted immunity from being sued for any mishaps they cause other soldiers in the course of their duties?
 
If someone who has completed training in the SCDF cannot swim then the problem lies in the training program.

EVERYONE in SCDF should be able to swim. How can you be part of civil defense of an Island Nation if you can't swim?

What will be next an army General who can't even shoot straight?
 
In the past 54 years, how often does the government acknowledge and bear full responsibility for their negligence and oversights?
Blame the whole world except themselves.
 
Never was swimming in our NS curriculum...this should have been started from school days.

But alas...this Cpl Kok is a Malaysian citizen but still need to serve NS.
 
If someone who has completed training in the SCDF cannot swim then the problem lies in the training program.

EVERYONE in SCDF should be able to swim. How can you be part of civil defense of an Island Nation if you can't swim?

What will be next an army General who can't even shoot straight?
We have generals tat cannot even shoot at all

否极泰来 Piji Tailai
Next stop Change! 下一站 否极泰来 物极必反!
Monday, 7 September 2015
Aim High Aim Low and Que Sara Sara
First published http://pijitailai.blogspot.sg/2013/01/aim-high-aim-low-and-que-sara-sara.html

PM Lee Hsien Loong has fired his first shot in the Singapore conversation between his party owned AIM and Aljunied-HougangTown Council. Instead of openly supporting his party company AIM and party man Dr Teo Ho Pin’s explanation on the dispute or debate or whatever you like to name it, he shot a blogger by issuing him a lawyer’s letter.
This is really a unique way of shooting a target and perhaps this is his usual practice by not telling you where his real target is. So, we don’t know his position about the AIM-AHTC-Dr Teo argument and which side he is supporting.
By nature, AIM, a fully owned PAP company and Dr Teo, a PAP MP, PM Lee must send a clear signal to Singaporeans that he, as party secretary-general, fully, totally and 100% support the points raised and statements issued by AIM and Dr Teo.
We are disappointed so far he has not said anything to support his AIM and Dr Teo. However, he surprised Singaporeans by aiming at a blogger.
Aim high, aim low and the aim is not to shoot the target as what we see from a distance. In fact, AIM, Dr Teo, AHTC and even PM Lee are all aimlessly shooting no target. They have all missed the target. Que sara sara. Maybe they are all politicians.
The AIM saga has so far reached its highest point as finally we see the Prime Minister entered the saga by a side door. Unfortunately, it has also reached its lowest point of lawsuit and apology.
‘Whatever will be, will be’ as the song ‘Que sara sara’ goes along. Will I be pretty, rich and handsome? Are these targets easily reachable as everyone is aiming for and looking for? Not that easy and so whatever will be, will be.
Interestingly, ‘Que sara sara’ is a song from the 1956 movie ‘The man who knew too much’. Who know too much in the AIM saga? The ones who know little like bloggers ask too much and the ones who know a little more pretend to be open, transparent and claim that they have released all the information.
As party secretary-general, PM Lee should be the one who know more than we do. As AIM directors and Dr Teo have to report to him, he should know more than all of them put together. PM and the PAP CEC should have a clearer and better picture than all of us.
But PM chooses to shoot at targets randomly and aimlessly and so we see no whole picture but part by part.
Sometimes, it is hard to guess what target PM Lee is aiming at. In an old shooting incident in Brunei many years ago before he became PM, even Peter Lim, the then editor-in-chief of Straits Times Group, also got it wrong.
PETER LIM RECOGNIZED a good story. It was the late 1980s, and Lim, then editor-in-chief of Singapore's Straits Times Group, was accompanying Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew to Brunei when he witnessed an episode that left him amazed. Invited to try out a new semi-automatic rifle, the prime minister sprayed bullets through the nearest target on a firing range; when it came to his son's turn, Lim reported, former Brig.-Gen. Lee Hsien Loong missed with every round.​
After publishing the story, however, Lim was bawled out by an officer who told him Lee Hsien Loong hadn't been aiming at the targets. When Lim contacted Lee, he confirmed that he had been getting the feel of the rifle and wasn't trying to hit anything in particular. Lim apologized and offered to publish a correction.​
Much to Lim's surprise, Lee, who had not long before left the armed forces and become a government minister, criticized the officer for his approach, and told Lim not to worry, that it wasn't important.http://www.singapore-window.org/sw04/040819fe.htm
Even Peter Lim can get it wrong; one will wonder how a blogger can get it right.
Whatever will be, will be. PM Lee is not aiming at any blogger in particular. He is like what he did in Brunei “
wasn't trying to hit anything in particular.
Sometimes, to be “the man who knew too much” is no good and can be dangerous too.
Que sara sara may be a better option in life!
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All the top brass escape unscathed. It's always the lower rung commanders who will get the punishment. At most, the top guys are rotated.
 
Never was swimming in our NS curriculum...this should have been started from school days.

But alas...this Cpl Kok is a Malaysian citizen but still need to serve NS.

Yes go to ACS I swimming pool, now go chiobu.
 
It was a team decision.

No blame culture.

Once in 50 years.

Etc.
 
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