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Serious Grab Faces us$2bn payout to Uber if no IPO by 2023.

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SINGAPORE -- Grab faces a $2 billion payout to Uber Technologies if the Singaporean ride hailer does not go public by March 2023.

Uber's right to redeem its 23% stake in Grab for cash was revealed in the U.S. ride-hailing giant's initial public offering prospectus released Thursday.

This suggests a possible time frame for when Grab is planning to launch its own IPO. "The redemption price is equal to the sum of the issue price of $5.54 with any declared but unpaid dividends, and compounded interest of 6% per annum on the issue price," the prospectus states.

Uber has 409 million shares. That means Grab could have to pay $2.26 billion or more to Uber if it exercises its redemption right.

The disclosure comes after Grab announced plans to raise another $2 billion from SoftBank Group and other investors by the end of this year, and as the market has been watching for any sign of when the Southeast Asian company might launch an IPO.

Grab and Uber competed heavily in Southeast Asia for about five years until March 2018 when Grab acquired Uber's regional business in exchange for Grab shares.

Grab later added more investors including Toyota Motor and Microsoft. According to Uber's prospectus, Uber held 23.2% of Grab shares as of the end of 2018, diluted from 27.5% as originally announced last March.

Uber received 401 million shares of Grab's "Series G preferred stock" on the closing date of the merger deal, and received another 8 million shares during 2018, the document said.

Notably, the Grab preferred stock "includes a redemption right, under which [Uber], subject to certain conditions, including the absence of a Grab IPO, may put all or a portion of its investment back to Grab any time after the redemption date (defined as March 25, 2023) for cash," the prospectus states.

That date is the fifth anniversary of the Grab-Uber merger in Southeast Asia. "March 25, 2023 doesn't explicitly define Grab's IPO deadline," said Margaret Yang, Singapore-based analyst at CMC Markets.

"However, Uber's investment in Grab, which accounts for a significant amount (23%) of its outstanding share capital, may reasonably affect Grab's decision to go for IPO before or after 2023." Jeffrey Halley, senior market analyst at Oanda in Singapore also said that the clause on redemption does not necessarily imply a Grab IPO by 2023.

"It looks like a pretty standard clause," he said. "That said, I would be very surprised indeed if both Grab and [Indonesia-based ride-hailer] Go-Jek had not tried to IPO by then" as they are the most valued startups in Southeast Asia.

Grab CEO Anthony Tan told the Nikkei Asian Review in a February interview that the public market is "an option" but also said that an IPO would not happen during 2019.

Grab is valued at $14 billion, according to CB Insights, the biggest unicorn in Southeast Asia.

Grab recently said it plans to raise another $2 billion this year from various investors including SoftBank Group.

Uber's prospectus also revealed that under the contract with Grab, Uber is restricted from competing with Grab in Southeast Asia "through the longer of March 2023 or one year after Uber disposes of all interests in Grab."

Uber's CEO Dara Khosrowshahi sits on Grab's board.

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But its operations still losing money.

i am particularly excited about their grab food biz, this should be sustainable for them in long run if they can get even the restaurants to deliver good cuisine to the heartlands. the futuristic forecast will be cuisine served at your doorstep, do away with posh restaurants except for business entertaining.
 

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i am particularly excited about their grab food biz, this should be sustainable for them in long run if they can get even the restaurants to deliver good cuisine to the heartlands. the futuristic forecast will be cuisine served at your doorstep, do away with posh restaurants except for business entertaining.


May i know The concept of Grab Food ???

if it is only about delivering Food from point A to point B then i think Sg mkt is to small.

already a few players like Deliveroo, Panda, Uber etc...
 

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May i know The concept of Grab Food ???

if it is only about delivering Food from point A to point B then i think Sg mkt is to small.

already a few players like Deliveroo, Panda, Uber etc...

can try grab food from matland...just a suggestion.
 

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2 billion is small change to them, they have so much cash and recently reported worth 14 billion after cash injected by softbank.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/06/tech/grab-softbank-singapore/index.html
When it first started, its overheads were small and they made some money on its operation.
But after all these investors pump in huge amount if money, i doubt if its feasible anymore. You do not need billions to do food delivery. And they now hire expensive managers and proffesionals to do the same things they used to do before at smaller costs.
 

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i think the Big thing about Grab is not in the Ride Hailing or Grab Food.

GrabPay and GrabFinanciing the real deal.

Grab Pay - the next "Debit Card" and Funds Transfer in Asia and beyond.

GrabFinancing the next legal Ah Longs.
 

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i think the Big thing about Grab is not in the Ride Hailing or Grab Food.

GrabPay and GrabFinanciing the real deal.

Grab Pay - the next "Debit Card" and Funds Transfer in Asia and beyond.

GrabFinancing the next legal Ah Longs.

i actually think that grab finance won't be an impact in an already saturated finance hub, grab cab and food is a better bet. the next thing i can think of is grab domestic and commercial cleaning.
 
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i actually think that grab finance won't be an impact in an already saturated finance hub, grab cab and food is a better bet. the next thing i can think of is grab domestic and commercial cleaning.

I hope Go-Jek will give Grab a good run.

Grab they said copied Uber.

Same for Go-Jek .
 

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Go-Jek received much more positive ratings in all aspects fromDrivers.

Grab on the another hand becoming more like ComfortDelgro Taxi company.

using Data Analysis to put a ceiling on how much a Grab driver can earn.

after years of throwing money. Grab is now using data collected to rewards it's Financial Backers .
 

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i really think grab food from matland will work if they co-ordinate with the customs, so much good food in jb and all the way to KL.
they can use this to reward for their financiers in the long term, more delivery jobs too.
they should stay away from high tech and finance, there is less competition and more demand in domestic.
 

shiokalingam

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Go-Jek received much more positive ratings in all aspects fromDrivers.

Grab on the another hand becoming more like ComfortDelgro Taxi company.

using Data Analysis to put a ceiling on how much a Grab driver can earn.

after years of throwing money. Grab is now using data collected to rewards it's Financial Backers .
 
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