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Regulators Refusing to Act - Hyflux & Noble Group's Decline

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Wet Wet Leak - Hyflux closed doors to new suitors after Salim/Medco Proposal. New offer was rejected by Hyflux Management & Maybank in concerted move.

With the revelation of the financial health of last Fiscal Year, potential suitor is now assessing if they should go public to make a hostile offer.
If so, terms of April 5 Voting expect to be amended Stay tuned!

Let's pray that the interested party will re-consider to announce the bid in public and shame Hyflux's management. While everyone is unsure how attractive the new suitor's proposal is, but one can guess that Indonesian's offer is too easy to out-bid.

Sincerely, Let’s hope that the new suitor is a Chinese or Singapore state-owned white knight and ends all these nonsense.
 
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If that's the case then the more we should vote NO to force Olivia open her doors to new suitors.
 

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Hyflux to Hold Scheme Meeting for Creditors on 5 Apr 19
https://www.bondsupermart.com/main/...-Scheme-Meeting-for-Creditors-on-5-Apr-19-633

The scheme will involve three classes of creditors, the first being Unsecured Scheme Parties (“USP”) holding ~S$1.65 billion of claims, including bank lenders, holders of medium term notes (“MTN”), trade and other creditors, and contingent claimants. Investors in Hyflux’s S$900m of perpetual securities and preference shares constitute the next class of claimants (collectively, “Debt Securities Scheme Parties” or “DSSP”). Finally, intercompany claims and claims of HyfluxShop Holdings Ltd totaling ~S$72.3m represent subordinated scheme claims, which will essentially be wiped out following the restructuring.

For Hyflux’s SOA to become effective, it requires the approval of a majority in number (above 50%) representing at least 75% in value of each class of the scheme parties voting at the meetings. This means both the USP and DSSP must agree to the restructuring proposal, and both classes have the power to throw out the deal.

But Court has discretion to cram down on dissenting class
In principle, this measure allows the Court to bypass a minority group of dissenting creditors and prevent them from blocking a scheme. In practice, it is uncertain what the outcome would be in the event that Hyflux is unable to get enough votes from the DSSP while other classes are in support.

Firstly, there is no precedence of a cram down utilization that we can take reference from. The concept of “fair and equitable” may also prove tricky to enforce due to the incorporation of what is known in the US as the “absolute priority rule”. This rule requires that creditors or shareholders subordinate to the dissenting creditor class to retain zero shares or assets in the company, unless the unsecured creditors are paid in full.

In any case, given that preference shares and perpetual securities holders reportedly totaled over 34,000 in number, and they hold ~34% of total scheme claims (according to our calculations that included subordinated scheme parties), the DSSP certainly has the ability to swing the outcome of Hyflux’s SOA.

Scheme payouts
Out of the total consideration for USP claims, ~S$93m of cash and 10.87% equity will be set aside in an escrow account as the recovery amounts for contingent claims. The Scheme Manager (representatives from Ernst & Young Solutions LLP) will only distribute these amounts to the relevant parties if their contingent claims crystallize before the expiry date—two years after the restructuring effective date.

80% of the cash payouts set aside for contingent claims, which eventually expire or extinguish, will be distributed to the USP in two tranches (after the first and second anniversary of the restructuring effective date). The Scheme Manager will distribute the remaining 20% cash payouts to Hyflux (“Contingent Claim Management Payouts”), which will allocate the monies to its employees as incentives for project completions. All the equity payouts initially allocated for expired/extinguished contingent claims will be distributed to the USP.

Looking at Hyflux’s explanatory statement, most of the contingent claims relates to engineering, procurement and construction, and operations and maintenance contracts, which are within the company’s core competencies. As such, we think it is likely for Hyflux to extinguish a significant amount of these contingent claims eventually. In the best-case scenario, where all of the contingent claims are extinguished or eventually expire, Hyflux’s senior unsecured creditors may recover up to 39.9% of their principal amount, with 21.7% in cash and 18.3% in shares (see Figure 1 and Figure 2).

The scheme payout for DSSP (for holders of its S$900m of perpetual securities and preference share) is relatively straightforward, the payout indicates a recovery rate of 10.7% for holders of perpetual securities and preference shares, with ~3% in cash and ~7.7% in shares.


Completion of the scheme requires the approval of shareholders
Assuming an equity value of S$26.7m for the 4% stake, that would imply a haircut of ~91% on the investments (at book value) of existing shareholders. The implementation of the scheme is contingent upon Hyflux getting the blessing of its shareholders at an extraordinary general meeting (“EGM”), currently scheduled to take place any day between 12-15 April. That means even if the scheme manages to get pass Hyflux’s creditors, existing shareholders may still block it from happening. We estimate that Ms Lum and her fellow directors hold around 34.6% of existing Hyflux shares.



Key Considerations for Scheme Parties
We think Hyflux could have done a better job in terms of setting the right expectations early for stakeholders, especially the perpetual securities and preference shares holders. From our conversations with investors and observations of the company’s town hall meetings, many retail investors were clueless that they are likely to face hefty haircuts on their principal, at least until the preliminary restructuring framework was revealed in January. Vague statements made during the town hall meetings, like “our goal is to protect small investors”, have likely introduced more misconceptions among the junior creditors.

According to the explanatory statement, Hyflux’s search process yielded 16 interested parties in the initial rounds of discussions, eventually zoomed down to eight interested parties. The company received bids ranging from a total investment of S$400m to S$600m, with the equity portion ranging from S$250m to S$530m (for equity stake between 51.0-86.4%).

It is difficult for us to judge whether the offer by SMI is the best overall package for scheme parties, as a key requirement of the Indonesian consortium is the complete extinguishment of Hyflux’s unsecured obligations. On the monetary value of SMI’s offer, the equity investment implies a S$667m valuation on Hyflux, or ~3.4 cents per Hyflux share post-restructuring according to our calculation. Hyflux’s pro-forma financial statements (on a consolidated basis and assuming the restructuring is implemented), as provided in the company’s affidavit dated 1 Mar 19, show a total equity of S$1.11 billion (as at 30 Sep 18) and 19.63 billion shares outstanding post-restructuring. Together, they translate to a price-to-book (“P/B”) ratio of approximately 0.60x for SMI’s equity offer.

In any case, in a competitive marketplace, if SMI is indeed investing into Hyflux at a giveaway price that is obvious to everyone, we have to wonder why hasn’t anyone else came up with a much better offer.


Timeline of restructuring is crucial
SMI has already indicated that it is unlikely to improve the terms of the restructuring agreement. “We have reached the maximum ceiling of what we can pay,” SMI CEO Mr Arief Sidarto said in January during one of Hyflux’s town hall meetings.

That said, the scheme parties may still negotiate between themselves on the distribution of the scheme consideration. There may still be time for the USP and DSSP to establish another (and preferred) allocation jointly before Hyflux’s SOA is put to vote on 5 Apr 19. Hyflux’s debt moratorium has an expiry date of 30 Apr 19. If more time is needed, Hyflux can apply to the Court for another extension of the moratorium period.

And even if we assume that the Court is somehow willing to extend Hyflux’s debt moratorium beyond April, we have to bear in mind that the company is in a capital-intensive business and projects typically take years to complete. Without providing clear visibility of its financial viability to trade creditors and potential clients, Hyflux is unlikely to win or carry out new projects. That is to the say the prospects of the company restoring financial health (and financial recoveries for creditors) may deteriorate correspondingly to the duration of time it stays insolvent.
 

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Wet Wet Leak - Hyflux closed doors to new suitors after Salim/Medco Proposal. New offer was rejected by Hyflux Management & Maybank in concerted move.

With the revelation of the financial health of last Fiscal Year, potential suitor is now assessing if they should go public to make a hostile offer.
If so, terms of April 5 Voting expect to be amended Stay tuned!

Let's pray that the interested party will re-consider to announce the bid in public and shame Hyflux's management. While everyone is unsure how attractive the new suitor's proposal is, but one can guess that Indonesian's offer is too easy to out-bid.

Sincerely, Let’s hope that the new suitor is a Chinese or Singapore state-owned white knight and ends all these nonsense.

Big brother!! Is this the Singapore state-owned company that you were refering to?

PUB issues default notice to Hyflux's Tuaspring
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...-default-notice-to-hyflux-tuaspring--11313888
 

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Big brother!! Is this the Singapore state-owned company that you were refering to?

PUB issues default notice to Hyflux's Tuaspring https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...-default-notice-to-hyflux-tuaspring--11313888
PUB issues default notice to Hyflux's Tuaspring
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SINGAPORE: National water agency PUB has issued a default notice to Tuaspring Pte Ltd (TPL), a subsidiary of Hyflux, to remedy defaults arising under the Water Purchase Agreement (WPA) between PUB and TPL.
"PUB is taking steps to ensure that our water security is safeguarded," it said in a release on Tuesday (Mar 5).

"PUB requires TPL to fully resolve all defaults within the default notice period, failing which, upon the expiry of the default notice period, PUB will exercise its right to terminate the WPA and take control of the plant."
PUB said that Tuaspring has been unable to fulfil various contractual obligations under the WPA, in particular, by failing to keep the plant reliably operational as required.
"In addition, TPL has not been able to produce financial evidence to demonstrate its ability to keep the plant running for the next six months," said PUB in its release.
"PUB has provided sufficient time for TPL to resolve its operational and financial defaults. Given TPL’s current financial position, TPL’s inability to fulfil its contractual obligations is unlikely to change in the immediate to longer term.

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In 2011, PUB signed a 25-year agreement with Tuaspring for Singapore’s second and largest desalination plant - one of the three desalination plants currently in Singapore.
Under the WPA, Tuaspring has to deliver up to 70 million gallons of desalinated water per day to PUB for a 25-year period from 2013 to 2038.

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...-default-notice-to-hyflux-tuaspring--11313888
 

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Big brother!! Is this the Singapore state-owned company that you were refering to?

PUB issues default notice to Hyflux's Tuaspring https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...-default-notice-to-hyflux-tuaspring--11313888

NEA continued to be in discussions after Indonesians came into the picture but Olivia was sufficiently biased or bribed. M&A reps from a Chinese state-owned enterprise (SOE) also tried to engage Hyflux but they were also shut-out by Hyflux.

PUB is NEA's proxy. Last night's development came a day after post #451 because it is in the best interest of NEA:



- Both Chinese SOE and NEA were prepared to go public because Hyflux's management was unfairly biased towards Indonesians. By going hostile, NEA checkmated the Chinese SOE (before the Chinese SOE can announce a better takeover deal in public). Doing so, will force the Chinese to withdraw their plans and NEA will avoid being blamed for blocking a good suitor again.

Indonesians will be a lessor-evil than Chinese. On surface, NEA only needs to be answerable to the public and not Hyflux investors. Their latest moves are aimed to force retail investors to do their national service and swallow the losses. Looks like NEA don't intend to be a white knight and treats retail investors like beggar too. The White Knights are the Chinese but they don't want Olivia on board.

NEA set a 30-days deadline which coincide with the April 5 voting. Do-or-Die, you get it?





- In the best case scenario, these development will force a Management Change in Hyflux. The real trouble-maker is Hyflux's management because they created fake accounts, lied repeatedly and rejected initiatives from NEA after going to bed with Indonesians. NEA's latest move is designed to trigger creditor banks to call for management change. To stay "neutral", NEA will not dirty their hands. Changing the management will create new opportunities for Hyflux's retail investors.



- Let's put aside the conspiracy that Maybank is screwing Singapore on behalf of China and Dr M. Commercially, Maybank is exposed to Hyflux and a bigger shit-hole called PacificLight (Please refer to post #487). Maybank's plotted with Indonesians to create synergies between post-restructuring Hyflux and Pacific Light is alike using POSB to make DBS healther. If this is the case, NEA will rather confiscate Tuaspring.

In the worst case scenario for Hyflux retail investors, NEA will pay a net sum after deducting any potential losses if a new operator charges differently. Eg. You got a 2-years rental agreement at $3000 a month and broke the contract, forcing landlord to rent at $2500 to someone else. Legally, the landlord can seek compensation from you for the difference ($500 for 12 months).


The hearts of Hyflux investors are not good to begin with. They voted for this government, they continued to believe in the system which betrayed them. Whenever someone highlighted that it was all due to failed government policies that ruined them, they passionately defenced the government and mocked us.

In the past few months, I didn't post anything fake here. I don't like Hyflux people insult our forum. I was just trying to help. I don't need these suck-up people to judge. Bastards.

My conscious is clear, and all I did was sharing to keep Hyflux investors ahead of the curve so that Hyflux investors have time to react against the professional sharks.

Beware of trolls who tries to make us lose our common sense. It is government's policy failures that ruined us.


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@JustLikeThis Look, Tan Kin Lian also tried to help the Hyflux investors like you but the Hyflux investors also make fun of him because he is not from PAP and cited that he lost heavily in the elections. Those people who laughed at Tan Kin Lian or you are either moles or simply like you say, suck-up Singaporeans. You are not alone. It is could be just cyber warfare plottedby Hyflux to keep the activists out.

https://tklcloud.com/Feedback/feedback2.aspx?id=1178

Hyflux wanted to find an investor since early 2017 but they needed PUB to give approval for confidential information to be provided to the potential bidders.

It seemed that the approval was slow in coming.

I can understand the problem faced by PUB in dealing with this situation. Tuaspring is a strategic asset and the PUB had to be careful in dealing with this change of ownership.

But there was no excuse for the delay. If the PUB had to deal with the difficult problem, they should have referred the matter to the government much earlier.

I believe that the blame should go up to the government leaders. They should have stepped in earlier to give direction on this matter. They should have asked PUB to take over Tuaspring early at a price to be decided by an independent valuer.

I am not asking the government to bail out Tuaspring. But PUB does have a duty to respond earlier to avoid the massive bleeding that Tuaspring had suffered due to the delay and uncertainty.

If a decision was taken earlier, Hyflux would not have suffered a massive loss. The latest report showed a depreciation of over $900 million in asset value. This was much higher than the actual loss that could be expectedx from power generation over the next few years.

I hope that the Ministry of Trade & Industry will address this issue about the delay in PUB in helping Hyflux to solve this issue.
 

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Election is round the corner .... the government hates to lose. Even if they have to pay to keep a white elephant, they will do it ... after all , they figure that they can get it back with the GST increase.
 

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NEA continued to be in discussions after Indonesians came into the picture but Olivia was sufficiently biased or bribed. M&A reps from a Chinese state-owned enterprise (SOE) also tried to engage Hyflux but they were also shut-out by Hyflux.

PUB is NEA's proxy. Last night's development came a day after post #451 because it is in the best interest of NEA:



- Both Chinese SOE and NEA were prepared to go public because Hyflux's management was unfairly biased towards Indonesians. By going hostile, NEA checkmated the Chinese SOE (before the Chinese SOE can announce a better takeover deal in public). Doing so, will force the Chinese to withdraw their plans and NEA will avoid being blamed for blocking a good suitor again.

Indonesians will be a lessor-evil than Chinese. On surface, NEA only needs to be answerable to the public and not Hyflux investors. Their latest moves are aimed to force retail investors to do their national service and swallow the losses. Looks like NEA don't intend to be a white knight and treats retail investors like beggar too. The White Knights are the Chinese but they don't want Olivia on board.

NEA set a 30-days deadline which coincide with the April 5 voting. Do-or-Die, you get it?





- In the best case scenario, these development will force a Management Change in Hyflux. The real trouble-maker is Hyflux's management because they created fake accounts, lied repeatedly and rejected initiatives from NEA after going to bed with Indonesians. NEA's latest move is designed to trigger creditor banks to call for management change. To stay "neutral", NEA will not dirty their hands. Changing the management will create new opportunities for Hyflux's retail investors.



- Let's put aside the conspiracy that Maybank is screwing Singapore on behalf of China and Dr M. Commercially, Maybank is exposed to Hyflux and a bigger shit-hole called PacificLight (Please refer to post #487). Maybank's plotted with Indonesians to create synergies between post-restructuring Hyflux and Pacific Light is alike using POSB to make DBS healther. If this is the case, NEA will rather confiscate Tuaspring.

In the worst case scenario for Hyflux retail investors, NEA will pay a net sum after deducting any potential losses if a new operator charges differently. Eg. You got a 2-years rental agreement at $3000 a month and broke the contract, forcing landlord to rent at $2500 to someone else. Legally, the landlord can seek compensation from you for the difference ($500 for 12 months).


The hearts of Hyflux investors are not good to begin with. They voted for this government, they continued to believe in the system which betrayed them. Whenever someone highlighted that it was all due to failed government policies that ruined them, they passionately defenced the government and mocked us.

In the past few months, I didn't post anything fake here. I don't like Hyflux people insult our forum. I was just trying to help. I don't need these suck-up people to judge. Bastards.

My conscious is clear, and all I did was sharing to keep Hyflux investors ahead of the curve so that Hyflux investors have time to react against the professional sharks. After this post, I am going to quit posting about Hyflux and enjoy my carefree stay here.

Your PnP investors betrayed you. Sorry to see you go. Thanks for the coverage.
 
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Dear Noteholders, don't be deceived by headlines like this. We have just 300 of us, the media does not side us. Trust yourselves.

PUB warning seen as wake-up call for Hyflux investors
A source close to the restructuring said last night: "The way to cure its defaults is through restructuring. The underlying message is for investors to consider the white knight's offer seriously, and not depend on the Government to bail them out."
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/pub-warning-seen-as-wake-up-call-for-hyflux-investors


Noteholders Vote NO because we control the Senior Class
Akin Gump has a solution as long we stay united and vote No. Our sheer number of votes in Senior Class will force all to compromise with us if the restructuring collapses. Don't settle for the 25% cash back and let Salim take advantage of us. We have the best odds to walk away with full redemption and penalty interests. Bankers and management stands to gain more than us in the long-run. They have continued stake in Hyflux, but not us. We just want our savings back. We are more senior than the PnPs and management too.

United we Stand!
 

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Do or die because they want tl wrap everything up before election. Dont be fooled

They just announced that they are prepared to confiscate more Hyflux's three other PPP assets in Singapore

PUB monitoring Hyflux's other plants and will step in if they default https://www.sgsme.sg/news/pub-monitoring-hyfluxs-other-plants-and-will-step-if-they-default

National water agency PUB has been monitoring Hyflux's other facilities in addition to the Tuaspring water and power plant, and will invoke the same step-in rights if they should also default, Environment and Water Resources Minister Masagos Zulkifli said yesterday.

Mr Masagos was responding in Parliament yesterday to Workers' Party Non-Constituency MP Daniel Goh's questions on whether Hyflux's financial and operational woes will affect the SingSpring desalination plant, the Bedok Newater plant and the membrane bioreactor plant in Jurong, and in turn the water supply.
 
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Filloz

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They just announced that they are prepared to confiscate more Hyflux's three other PPP assets in Singapore. Dear noteholders, we have the upper hands. Government continue to engage in scare-tactics because we determine the outcome of the voting. Please stay united and vote No. We constitute a small part of the total debts, we can get 100% back, instead of 25%, if we vote No. Everyone will have to give in to us. This is our seniority and importance, in return for accepting a lower yield for our debts all these years. Even bankers get more than 4%. (Some of Hyflux's bankers charge more than 5% according to court documents).

If government dares to confiscate Tuaspring, SingSpring desalination plant, the Bedok Newater plant and the membrane bioreactor plant in Jurong, let them face the anger from the PnPs retail investors and bankers. We just need to stand firm and united. Please pass the message to fellow noteholders. We will survive.
 
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They just announced that they are prepared to confiscate more Hyflux's three other PPP assets in Singapore. Dear noteholders, we have the upper hands. Government continue to engage in scare-tactics because we determine the outcome of the voting. Please stay united and vote No. We constitute a small part of the total debts, we can get 100% back, instead of 25%, if we vote No. Everyone will have to give in to us. This is our seniority and importance, in return for accepting a lower yield for our debts all these years. Even bankers get more than 4%. (Some of Hyflux's bankers charge more than 5% according to court documents).

If government dares to confiscate Tuaspring, SingSpring desalination plant, the Bedok Newater plant and the membrane bioreactor plant in Jurong, let them face the anger from the PnPs retail investors and bankers. We just need to stand firm and united. Please pass the message to fellow noteholders. We will survive.

Sg government worse than china communism
How can they confiscate Hyflux assets without paying us.
Most funny joke in Singapore .
 

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Sg government worse than china communism
How can they confiscate Hyflux assets without paying us.
Most funny joke in Singapore .

Nothing to pay you back. The new vendor probably quotes a little higher and Hyflux will be billed for the difference for the remaining 2 decades of concessions.
 

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I got a feeling that we will see a change in government in the next General Election. Hyflux and GST increment will bring down PAP like Najib.
 
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