Gen Kee Chiu shows sinkees why he should be PM

[winnipegjets]

As expected, Gen Kee Chiu emerges to show that he should be the PM. The border disputes between sinkapore and mudland was engineered by Kee Chiu and his supporters to stir up troubles for Heng Ah (now Boh Heng) to tackle and give Kee Chiu the opportunity to juxtaposed his 'strong' leadership with the 'calm and composed' posture adopted of Heng Ah.

Instead of the foreign minister and PM taking the lead on a potentially explosive situation, the PM is MIA. The reason is obvious - his choice of the next PM is Kee Chiu. The PAP decision makers didn't want Kee Chiu but Pinky will not have that. After all who is the party to tell the son of the Great Leader what to do. So, the PM's MIA on this issue is for Kee Chiu to one up Heng Ah.

Kee Chiu is adopting an aggressive position; seeking to pick a fight with Mudland. His intransigence - Suggesting that Sinkapore vessels leave the area for talks to happen. That's not right. That cannot be right ....You make a claim. You send forces in. You ask Sinkapore to leave, as condition to start talks? How can this be? ...Revert to the pre-Oct 25 status quo ante. Have the Malaysian ships leave the area peacefully, immediately."

The substance of what Kee Chiu wants is no different from that made by Mudland. Mudland asks for "cease and desist" sending assets and removing all ship from the disputed area. That is a reasonable position. Not for Kee Chiu. He wants to show that he is tough - so Mudland removes its ships but sinkapore can keeps its ship there. You expect the Mudlanders to accept that position? That position taken by Kee Chiu is to keep the tension ongoing, to give him the spotlight and show that he is better than Heng Ah.

 

[Asterix]

The substance of what Kee Chiu wants is no different from that made by Mudland. Mudland asks for "cease and desist" sending assets and removing all ship from the disputed area. That is a reasonable position. Not for Kee Chiu. He wants to show that he is tough - so Mudland removes its ships but sinkapore can keeps its ship there. You expect the Mudlanders to accept that position? That position taken by Kee Chiu is to keep the tension ongoing, to give him the spotlight and show that he is better than Heng Ah.

SG has been patrolling those waters for decades. If we agree not to send military assets to those waters are we not implicitly agreeing to the m&d position that the ownership of these waters are "disputed" when in fact they have not questioned or challenged our right to patrol those waters for decades. Should we stupidly agree to this, we will be creating a new set of facts which can be used against us should the matter be brought before an international court.

Any power struggle within SG cabinet, real or imagined, should be kept separate from this issue of thick skinned and unacknowledged "abang" trying to bully us as a nation. Heng can always come out and make a stronger statement. Besides, every Sinkie should know that there are only two ways to stop someone chosen as PM by the party from becoming PM - 1) deny party a majority in Parliament; or 2) deny chosen PM a seat in Parliament.

 

[winnipegjets]

SG has been patrolling those waters for decades. If we agree not to send military assets to those waters are we not implicitly agreeing to the m&d position that the ownership of these waters are "disputed" when in fact they have not questioned or challenged our right to patrol those waters for decades. Should we stupidly agree to this, we will be creating a new set of facts which can be used against us should the matter be brought before an international court.

Any power struggle within SG cabinet, real or imagined, should be kept separate from this issue of thick skinned and unacknowledged "abang" trying to bully us as a nation. Heng can always come out and make a stronger statement. Besides, every Sinkie should know that there are only two ways to stop someone chosen as PM by the party from becoming PM - 1) deny party a majority in Parliament; or 2) deny chosen PM a seat in Parliament.

The water has been disputed and remains so. Just because Mudland has not create a row over the period, it does not mean that Sinkapore can claim sovereignty.

This matter would not have been ignited if sinkapore had consulted with Mudland before implementing ILS for Seletar Airport. I see the hands of kee chiu to stir up shit for Ah Heng. PAP politicians are no different from politicians else ...they fight amongst themselves, there are factions and they would screw the country for their personal gain ...only stupid sinkees think that their politicians are saints.

 

[meepokboy]

Kee chiu now need to make his voice known to show that he is the better choice. this is his last resort to get is popularity votes

 

[bobby]

 

[Asterix]

The water has been disputed and remains so. Just because Mudland has not create a row over the period, it does not mean that Sinkapore can claim sovereignty.

This matter would not have been ignited if sinkapore had consulted with Mudland before implementing ILS for Seletar Airport. I see the hands of kee chiu to stir up shit for Ah Heng. PAP politicians are no different from politicians else ...they fight amongst themselves, there are factions and they would screw the country for their personal gain ...only stupid sinkees think that their politicians are saints.

Aiyoh, if Mudland want those waters and even Pedra Branca, they could have demanded everything in 1965 as a condition for separation. Truth is these Mudlanders are bloody lazy and after they see us growing rich on meritocracy while they stay stuck in Third World with racial discrimination, they get jealous and start making unreasonable demands.

No proof that Mudland will not create trouble if not for Seletar. Trouble started as soon as Mahathir become PM again. Mahathir had to eat humble pie and U turn on his promise to ratify ICERD. It is more likely that he intentionally created tensions with SG to divert attention from the ICERD debacle which can cost him votes.

Hey dumboo! That politicians everywhere are dirty doesn't change what is in the rational self interest of a country regardless of who is in charge. Americans know it is USA's interest to contain China and slow its quest to be a tech powerhouse, regardless of whether a Republican or Democrat is President. Sinkies should know that Singapore should stand up to bullying from the fake and unacknowledged "abang" regardless of who is PM or which party controls Parliament. Only stupid m&ds pretending to be Sinkies can't tell the difference and instigate Sinkies to cut off their nose to spite their face.

 

[steffychun]

He is a fake general until he's proven himself in combat.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

As expected, Gen Kee Chiu emerges to show that he should be the PM. The border disputes between sinkapore and mudland was engineered by Kee Chiu and his supporters to stir up troubles for Heng Ah (now Boh Heng) to tackle and give Kee Chiu the opportunity to juxtaposed his 'strong' leadership with the 'calm and composed' posture adopted of Heng Ah.

Instead of the foreign minister and PM taking the lead on a potentially explosive situation, the PM is MIA. The reason is obvious - his choice of the next PM is Kee Chiu. The PAP decision makers didn't want Kee Chiu but Pinky will not have that. After all who is the party to tell the son of the Great Leader what to do. So, the PM's MIA on this issue is for Kee Chiu to one up Heng Ah.

Kee Chiu is adopting an aggressive position; seeking to pick a fight with Mudland. His intransigence - Suggesting that Sinkapore vessels leave the area for talks to happen. That's not right. That cannot be right ....You make a claim. You send forces in. You ask Sinkapore to leave, as condition to start talks? How can this be? ...Revert to the pre-Oct 25 status quo ante. Have the Malaysian ships leave the area peacefully, immediately."

The substance of what Kee Chiu wants is no different from that made by Mudland. Mudland asks for "cease and desist" sending assets and removing all ship from the disputed area. That is a reasonable position. Not for Kee Chiu. He wants to show that he is tough - so Mudland removes its ships but sinkapore can keeps its ship there. You expect the Mudlanders to accept that position? That position taken by Kee Chiu is to keep the tension ongoing, to give him the spotlight and show that he is better than Heng Ah.

Good the only way to overthrow pap is by pap imploding

 

[winnipegjets]

Aiyoh, if Mudland want those waters and even Pedra Branca, they could have demanded everything in 1965 as a condition for separation. Truth is these Mudlanders are bloody lazy and after they see us growing rich on meritocracy while they stay stuck in Third World with racial discrimination, they get jealous and start making unreasonable demands.

No proof that Mudland will not create trouble if not for Seletar. Trouble started as soon as Mahathir become PM again. Mahathir had to eat humble pie and U turn on his promise to ratify ICERD. It is more likely that he intentionally created tensions with SG to divert attention from the ICERD debacle which can cost him votes.

Hey dumboo! That politicians everywhere are dirty doesn't change what is in the rational self interest of a country regardless of who is in charge. Americans know it is USA's interest to contain China and slow its quest to be a tech powerhouse, regardless of whether a Republican or Democrat is President. Sinkies should know that Singapore should stand up to bullying from the fake and unacknowledged "abang" regardless of who is PM or which party controls Parliament. Only stupid m&ds pretending to be Sinkies can't tell the difference and instigate Sinkies to cut off their nose to spite their face.

Precisely, Mudland doesn't care much (that's the Malay culture) until sinkapore try to take advantage of them. They have learned from the rock incident. Give an inch, Sinkapore will take 10 feet. So, when sinkapore implemented ILS at Seletar with no discussion with Mudland, that was the trigger.
Sinkapore knows that there would be a response. And I believe Gen Kee Chiu wanted the squabbles to be front page news ...so that he can show off to sinkees what he can do.

Sideline Gen Kee Chiu and let Heng Ah handle this and relations will be back to even keel. Gen Kee Chiu is stirring up shits for the next PM in order to usurp the post.

This border issue would not have been front page news if not for henchmen of Kee Chiu making it so. Now, you know who are in his faction - Vivian, Khaw, Fu ...those who have spoken out recently. Even the fake opposition, WP, is on Kee Chiu's side.

 

[winnipegjets]

He is a fake general until he's proven himself in combat.

He is showing sinkapore a fake general is better than a policeman as PM.

 

[Asterix]

Precisely, Mudland doesn't care much (that's the Malay culture) until sinkapore try to take advantage of them. They have learned from the rock incident. Give an inch, Sinkapore will take 10 feet. So, when sinkapore implemented ILS at Seletar with no discussion with Mudland, that was the trigger.
Sinkapore knows that there would be a response. And I believe Gen Kee Chiu wanted the squabbles to be front page news ...so that he can show off to sinkees what he can do.

Sideline Gen Kee Chiu and let Heng Ah handle this and relations will be back to even keel. Gen Kee Chiu is stirring up shits for the next PM in order to usurp the post.

This border issue would not have been front page news if not for henchmen of Kee Chiu making it so. Now, you know who are in his faction - Vivian, Khaw, Fu ...those who have spoken out recently. Even the fake opposition, WP, is on Kee Chiu's side.

Please lah. Get your facts right before anyhow shoot. Singapore where got take advantage of your belove Mudland. It was the British who forcibly incorporated the rock into Singapore territory. From Wikipedia:

Pedra Branca was known to sailors for centuries. It was originally within the territory of the Johor Sultanate, which was founded in 1528, and remained under the new Sultanate of Johor under the British sphere of influencefollowing the signing of the Anglo–Dutch Treaty of 1824 between the United Kingdomand the Netherlands. Between 1850 and 1851, the British built Horsburgh Lighthouse on the island without seeking the consent of the Johor authorities, or even informing them of the decision. From that time, the Straits Settlements administered the island; Singapore then assumed responsibility in 1946 after the dissolution of the Straits Settlements. On 21 September 1953, the Acting State Secretary of Johor, responding to a query from the Colonial Secretary of Singapore about the status of the island, stated that "the Johore Government does not claim ownership of Pedra Branca".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Branca,_Singapore

It was also the British who gave Malaya its independence. These lazy m&ds guai guai acknowledge Singapore sovereignty over Pedra Branca in 1953 so as not to jeopardise the bigger present they were hoping to get from the British - independence for whole of peninsular Malaya.

After they got everything they wanted from the British including the free gifts of Sabah and Sarawak, these "lazy" m&ds worked hard to get rid of Singapore and its pesky Chinese majority, engineered "spontaneous" riots in 1969 to impose a Malay First social contract, they got greedy and started changing maps in the late 1970s.

 

[Asterix]

Precisely, Mudland doesn't care much (that's the Malay culture) until sinkapore try to take advantage of them. They have learned from the rock incident. Give an inch, Sinkapore will take 10 feet. So, when sinkapore implemented ILS at Seletar with no discussion with Mudland, that was the trigger.
Sinkapore knows that there would be a response. And I believe Gen Kee Chiu wanted the squabbles to be front page news ...so that he can show off to sinkees what he can do.

Sideline Gen Kee Chiu and let Heng Ah handle this and relations will be back to even keel. Gen Kee Chiu is stirring up shits for the next PM in order to usurp the post.

This border issue would not have been front page news if not for henchmen of Kee Chiu making it so. Now, you know who are in his faction - Vivian, Khaw, Fu ...those who have spoken out recently. Even the fake opposition, WP, is on Kee Chiu's side.

This border issue deserve to be front page regardless of which Minister open his fat mouth. Your beloved Mudland's dispute with Philipines over Sabah also got front page coverage when a bunch of riff raffs with guns representing a "Sultan of Sulu" enroached on Sabah jungle ahem i mean territory. If SG ministers keep silent over Mudland's enroachment of SG territory, that silence would in itself be front page news!!!

 

[steffychun]

Heng and Kee Chiu know they are fake police and army officers. Both not doing anything.

 

[winnipegjets]

Please lah. Get your facts right before anyhow shoot. Singapore where got take advantage of your belove Mudland. It was the British who forcibly incorporated the rock into Singapore territory. From Wikipedia:

Pedra Branca was known to sailors for centuries. It was originally within the territory of the Johor Sultanate, which was founded in 1528, and remained under the new Sultanate of Johor under the British sphere of influencefollowing the signing of the Anglo–Dutch Treaty of 1824 between the United Kingdomand the Netherlands. Between 1850 and 1851, the British built Horsburgh Lighthouse on the island without seeking the consent of the Johor authorities, or even informing them of the decision. From that time, the Straits Settlements administered the island; Singapore then assumed responsibility in 1946 after the dissolution of the Straits Settlements. On 21 September 1953, the Acting State Secretary of Johor, responding to a query from the Colonial Secretary of Singapore about the status of the island, stated that "the Johore Government does not claim ownership of Pedra Branca".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Branca,_Singapore

It was also the British who gave Malaya its independence. These lazy m&ds guai guai acknowledge Singapore sovereignty over Pedra Branca in 1953 so as not to jeopardise the bigger present they were hoping to get from the British - independence for whole of peninsular Malaya.

After they got everything they wanted from the British including the free gifts of Sabah and Sarawak, these "lazy" m&ds worked hard to get rid of Singapore and its pesky Chinese majority, engineered "spontaneous" riots in 1969 to impose a Malay First social contract, they got greedy and started changing maps in the late 1970s.

I love Sinkapore. I am merely stating facts. If sinkapore wants a chance to survive, then it had better get along with Mudland or takeover Mudland. Tunku Adbul Rahman gave sinkapore a sweet heart deal on water, reflecting the relax attitude of Malays towards sinkapore. Over the years, an arrogant sinkapore made mudlanders have second thoughts on being too nice to us.

How many countries allow others to manage their airspace? How many countries give away their water for pennies a litre? The territorial water dispute can be easily resolved. You take the distance from the original land border and that is settled. Sinkapore won't let that happen; it wants to calculate from the reclaimed land. That's why Kee Chiu set a condition that he knows Mudland will not accept. Mudland wants all ships to leave the disputed waters is reasonable.

See Kee Chiu keeps talking about the territorial water, ignoring the airspace issue. Because it serves his purpose. The airspace issue is strictly black and white; the airspace belongs to Mudland and they can get it back. Sinkapore can cook up anything but it will not stand.

The wayang with Mudland is a distraction from the real issue - the power struggle within the PAP. It is Gen Kee Chiu and Bo Heng.

 

[jw5]

Yes he can.

As expected, Gen Kee Chiu emerges to show that he should be the PM. The border disputes between sinkapore and mudland was engineered by Kee Chiu and his supporters to stir up troubles for Heng Ah (now Boh Heng) to tackle and give Kee Chiu the opportunity to juxtaposed his 'strong' leadership with the 'calm and composed' posture adopted of Heng Ah.

 

[steffychun]

He is showing sinkapore a fake general is better than a policeman as PM.

You mean a fake policeman. Both were fake in uniform.

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

Please lah. Get your facts right before anyhow shoot. Singapore where got take advantage of your belove Mudland. It was the British who forcibly incorporated the rock into Singapore territory. From Wikipedia:

Pedra Branca was known to sailors for centuries. It was originally within the territory of the Johor Sultanate, which was founded in 1528, and remained under the new Sultanate of Johor under the British sphere of influencefollowing the signing of the Anglo–Dutch Treaty of 1824 between the United Kingdomand the Netherlands. Between 1850 and 1851, the British built Horsburgh Lighthouse on the island without seeking the consent of the Johor authorities, or even informing them of the decision. From that time, the Straits Settlements administered the island; Singapore then assumed responsibility in 1946 after the dissolution of the Straits Settlements. On 21 September 1953, the Acting State Secretary of Johor, responding to a query from the Colonial Secretary of Singapore about the status of the island, stated that "the Johore Government does not claim ownership of Pedra Branca".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedra_Branca,_Singapore

It was also the British who gave Malaya its independence. These lazy m&ds guai guai acknowledge Singapore sovereignty over Pedra Branca in 1953 so as not to jeopardise the bigger present they were hoping to get from the British - independence for whole of peninsular Malaya.

After they got everything they wanted from the British including the free gifts of Sabah and Sarawak, these "lazy" m&ds worked hard to get rid of Singapore and its pesky Chinese majority, engineered "spontaneous" riots in 1969 to impose a Malay First social contract, they got greedy and started changing maps in the late 1970s.

Singapore was not part of Malaysia until one so-called LEEder arrogantLEE offered the country despite good advice from other leaders.
Are we going to see another LEEder mishandLEEng our motherland?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

This video is starting to remind me of pinky n the next PM.



Retired empress pinky
Imperial consort Ho Jinx
Emperor ah Heng
Princess Taiping is kee Chui.
The eunuchs. Sham n mad Khaw n Vivian
The harem n palace maids. Disgracefool. Jos Teo. Tin pot ling etc.

So even if pinky steps down. Powers will still be in her hands. Ah Heng is a puppet n kee chui the trouble maker

 

[Asterix]

Singapore was not part of Malaysia until one so-called LEEder arrogantLEE offered the country despite good advice from other leaders.
Are we going to see another LEEder mishandLEEng our motherland?

You're contradicting yourself. If Singapore was not part of Malaysia until LKY tried to use Malaysia to control the "Communists", then how can Malaysia be our "motherland"?

Former Mudlanders may still consider Malaysia their "motherland", just like former PRCs still consider China their motherland. But Sinkies born after 1965 ie the majority of Sinkies have no reason to consider Malaysia their "motherland".

 

[Kopi0Kosong]

You're contradicting yourself. If Singapore was not part of Malaysia until LKY tried to use Malaysia to control the "Communists", then how can Malaysia be our "motherland"?
Former Mudlanders may still consider Malaysia their "motherland", just like former PRCs still consider China their motherland. But Sinkies born after 1965 ie the majority of Sinkies have no reason to consider Malaysia their "motherland".

Point of Clarification:

I am a Singaporean and my reference to 'motherland' is Singapore and not Malaysia or Malaya.
Apology if my post had caused you to misinterpret.