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Chitchat Pray tell what Foreign Influence???

scroobal

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Loyal
What the hell is he talking about. The only immediate threat is the PRC hacking into our Civil Service and SAF. The intention is not topple the country or the PAP, it get to information on Asean and Foreign forces using Military facilities.

Its more like to create fear and pull Singaporeans back into PAP fold.

No foreign country should ever influence our politics and divide our people: PM Lee
By CYNTHIA CHOO
31440744.JPG

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong called on Singaporeans at the PAP Convention to stay united and “back the Government” when the country is put to the test. Photo: Nuria Ling/TODAY
Published19 NOVEMBER, 2017
UPDATED 19 NOVEMBER, 2017
SINGAPORE - Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has called on Singaporeans to stay united and "back the Government", in the event of attempts by foreign parties to influence the Republic's domestic politics.

Speaking to around 2,000 People’s Action Party activists on Sunday (Nov 19), Mr Lee stated that while Singapore is friends with many countries, it must not “inadvertently fall under foreign control, or influence”.

“No foreign country should ever influence our domestic debate and politics, or divide and weaken us, either openly or covertly.”

Such attempts might take place even though Singapore has friendly relations with other countries, warned Mr Lee during the party’s convention, where he cited examples in other countries on attempts by foreign parties to influence their domestic happenings.

He noted that in Australia, there has been concern about foreign influence.

“In American elections… where they are accusing the Russians of trying to influence the elections, through Facebook, through Twitter, quietly… secretly,” he added.

“Can it happen to us? Yes it can, but we must prevent it from happening.”

Turning to ties with Singapore’s neighbours, Mr Lee said that bilateral relations have continued to strengthen. The Prime Minister hosted a retreat with Indonesian President Jokowi in September and is set to host another with Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak next month.

Referring to the Pedra Branca issue, Mr Lee said: “It’s an old subject, we thought the issue was settled long ago, with the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruling in 2008 which awarded Pedra Branca to Singapore.”

“But almost a decade later, the Malaysians have gone to the ICJ again, asking the Court to reinterpret and to revise the judgment, reopening the subject,” he said.

In late October, the Republic filed a second rebuttal to Malaysia’s ongoing challenge to the 2008 ruling.

The latest documents were filed with the ICJ on October 30, in response to a second application by Malaysia on June 30 challenging the court’s ruling awarding the tiny island to Singapore.

Putrajaya had asked the court to award waters around Pedra Branca, which sits at the entrance to the Singapore Strait about 30km east of the Republic, and a maritime feature south of it called South Ledge, to Malaysia.

Malaysia’s second application followed an earlier one in February this year where Putrajaya cited what it claimed was the discovery of new facts from three documents recently discovered in the United Kingdom’s national archive, which it said would have resulted in a “different conclusion” by the ICJ.

Singapore filed a rebuttal to Malaysia’s first application on May 24.

In addition, Mr Lee noted that Indonesian politicians have been talking about “taking back their airspace from Singapore”.

Singapore manages the Flight Information Region (FIR) around Changi Airport and it includes some areas which are in the Indonesian airspace, and Jakarta has said that it wants to reclaim the FIR.

The city state has all along said that the FIR is not an issue of sovereignty, but of the safety and efficiency of commercial air traffic.

Issues over airspace and Pedra Branca happen because they have unfortunately been politicised, Mr Lee said.

Given that foreign relations may come under strain when national pride and sovereignty is involved, Mr Lee said this is why Singapore should take a “long term” approach when building diplomatic ties.

“Work towards good relations that benefit both sides, when relations are going well, we should not take them for granted, more importantly, when relations are down, we must not get flustered or cower,” he said.

Touching on relationships with the big powers, Mr Lee said “it is not always easy to be good friends” with Washington and Beijing, but relations with both sides are in good order.

His visit to China in September was believed to hold important political significance, as Mr Lee had landed in China just before the 19th party congress.

The once-in-five-years event was closely watched for leadership reshuffle and renewal at the top of the Chinese Communist Party, and ensuing policy changes.

A month later, Mr Lee also made a trip to the US, which saw him touching base with US Senators, Congressmen and policy thinkers.

“As a small nation, we have to make friends with as many countries as we can… We have to work hard to tend our relationships with both the US and China, while upholding Singapore’s own interests. I think we have not done too badly,” said Mr Lee.

Stating that the country’s interest might not always coincide with other bigger nations, Mr Lee said Singaporeans must stand firm.

“Singaporeans have to understand our core interests. When we are put to the test we will stay united and back the Government. Then we can stand our ground and defend Singapore’s interests as one single, cohesive country,” he said.
 

Bigfuck

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Whether you live or die, stay in power or disappear, is very much determined by foreign influence. Do not try to talk big. You sell yourself to foreign influence to stay in power at the expense of the people.
 

sweetiepie

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Loyal
my uncle say gay loong know that other cuntry people are laughing at him on the mrt issues so he panic and anyhow say this.
 

KuanTi01

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
PM must be delusional and in self-denial! The only influence which he gratefully accepts is from the USA! Perhaps he is referring to China; his favourite bogeyman? As for dividing the people, he is referring to himself! He should just resign and give his job to someone more competent and more energetic!
 

Papsmearer

Alfrescian (InfP) - Comp
Generous Asset
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has called on Singaporeans to stay united and "back the Government", in the event of attempts by foreign parties to influence the Republic's domestic politics.

Speaking to around 2,000 People’s Action Party activists on Sunday (Nov 19), Mr Lee stated that while Singapore is friends with many countries, it must not “inadvertently fall under foreign control, or influence”.

“No foreign country should ever influence our domestic debate and politics, or divide and weaken us, either openly or covertly.”


But when you let in 2.5 million foreigners, with a large representation from the most ambitious country with territorial claims in your region (eg China), u are really talking shit about foreign influence. The foreign influence is already here and has been here for a long time, let in by the PAP. If even 10% of the foreigners leave, we are screwed because we are so dependent on them.
 
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zhihau

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Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has called on Singaporeans to stay united and "back the Government", in the event of attempts by foreign parties to influence the Republic's domestic politics.

Bwahahahahahahaa...
 

congo9

Alfrescian
Loyal
Whether you live or die, stay in power or disappear, is very much determined by foreign influence. Do not try to talk big. You sell yourself to foreign influence to stay in power at the expense of the people.

Can we stop foreigner sending letter to forum to compliment and comment on things political ? If not, what the PAP is trying to put across is just rherotic at best ?
 

steffychun

Alfrescian
Loyal
What the hell is he talking about. The only immediate threat is the PRC hacking into our Civil Service and SAF. The intention is not topple the country or the PAP, it get to information on Asean and Foreign forces using Military facilities.

Its more like to create fear and pull Singaporeans back into PAP fold.

No foreign country should ever influence our politics and divide our people: PM Lee
By CYNTHIA CHOO
31440744.JPG

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong called on Singaporeans at the PAP Convention to stay united and “back the Government” when the country is put to the test. Photo: Nuria Ling/TODAY
Published19 NOVEMBER, 2017
UPDATED 19 NOVEMBER, 2017
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SINGAPORE - Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has called on Singaporeans to stay united and "back the Government", in the event of attempts by foreign parties to influence the Republic's domestic politics.

Speaking to around 2,000 People’s Action Party activists on Sunday (Nov 19), Mr Lee stated that while Singapore is friends with many countries, it must not “inadvertently fall under foreign control, or influence”.

“No foreign country should ever influence our domestic debate and politics, or divide and weaken us, either openly or covertly.”

Such attempts might take place even though Singapore has friendly relations with other countries, warned Mr Lee during the party’s convention, where he cited examples in other countries on attempts by foreign parties to influence their domestic happenings.

He noted that in Australia, there has been concern about foreign influence.

“In American elections… where they are accusing the Russians of trying to influence the elections, through Facebook, through Twitter, quietly… secretly,” he added.

“Can it happen to us? Yes it can, but we must prevent it from happening.”

Turning to ties with Singapore’s neighbours, Mr Lee said that bilateral relations have continued to strengthen. The Prime Minister hosted a retreat with Indonesian President Jokowi in September and is set to host another with Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak next month.

Referring to the Pedra Branca issue, Mr Lee said: “It’s an old subject, we thought the issue was settled long ago, with the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruling in 2008 which awarded Pedra Branca to Singapore.”

“But almost a decade later, the Malaysians have gone to the ICJ again, asking the Court to reinterpret and to revise the judgment, reopening the subject,” he said.

In late October, the Republic filed a second rebuttal to Malaysia’s ongoing challenge to the 2008 ruling.

The latest documents were filed with the ICJ on October 30, in response to a second application by Malaysia on June 30 challenging the court’s ruling awarding the tiny island to Singapore.

Putrajaya had asked the court to award waters around Pedra Branca, which sits at the entrance to the Singapore Strait about 30km east of the Republic, and a maritime feature south of it called South Ledge, to Malaysia.

Malaysia’s second application followed an earlier one in February this year where Putrajaya cited what it claimed was the discovery of new facts from three documents recently discovered in the United Kingdom’s national archive, which it said would have resulted in a “different conclusion” by the ICJ.

Singapore filed a rebuttal to Malaysia’s first application on May 24.

In addition, Mr Lee noted that Indonesian politicians have been talking about “taking back their airspace from Singapore”.

Singapore manages the Flight Information Region (FIR) around Changi Airport and it includes some areas which are in the Indonesian airspace, and Jakarta has said that it wants to reclaim the FIR.

The city state has all along said that the FIR is not an issue of sovereignty, but of the safety and efficiency of commercial air traffic.

Issues over airspace and Pedra Branca happen because they have unfortunately been politicised, Mr Lee said.

Given that foreign relations may come under strain when national pride and sovereignty is involved, Mr Lee said this is why Singapore should take a “long term” approach when building diplomatic ties.

“Work towards good relations that benefit both sides, when relations are going well, we should not take them for granted, more importantly, when relations are down, we must not get flustered or cower,” he said.

Touching on relationships with the big powers, Mr Lee said “it is not always easy to be good friends” with Washington and Beijing, but relations with both sides are in good order.

His visit to China in September was believed to hold important political significance, as Mr Lee had landed in China just before the 19th party congress.

The once-in-five-years event was closely watched for leadership reshuffle and renewal at the top of the Chinese Communist Party, and ensuing policy changes.

A month later, Mr Lee also made a trip to the US, which saw him touching base with US Senators, Congressmen and policy thinkers.

“As a small nation, we have to make friends with as many countries as we can… We have to work hard to tend our relationships with both the US and China, while upholding Singapore’s own interests. I think we have not done too badly,” said Mr Lee.

Stating that the country’s interest might not always coincide with other bigger nations, Mr Lee said Singaporeans must stand firm.

“Singaporeans have to understand our core interests. When we are put to the test we will stay united and back the Government. Then we can stand our ground and defend Singapore’s interests as one single, cohesive country,” he said.

Rememberhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Hendrickson_affair US Embassy Official fucked out of Singapore by Pinky.
 

Froggy

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Moderator
Generous Asset
I suspect foreigners are spreading fear and terror about our public transport. Let's not worry as its in good hands.

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bobby

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Loyal
Why is all these public affairs aired during a PAP conference where only PAP members are present?

This is not a parliamentary seating where other interests are being represented.
 

JohnTan

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Generous Asset
What the hell is he talking about. The only immediate threat is the PRC hacking into our Civil Service and SAF. The intention is not topple the country or the PAP, it get to information on Asean and Foreign forces using Military facilities.
Its more like to create fear and pull Singaporeans back into PAP fold.

In the 1950s and 1960s, the russians and chink commies infiltrated our trade unions to turn zikapore red.

In the 1960s, the CIA tried to bribe the late Ah Gong and turn him into a yankee stooge.

In the 1980s, Francis Seow of the WP was turned by the CIA.

Recently, Huang Jing was exposed as a foreign stooge trying to use his academic position to subvert sinkie politics.

Today in ASEAN, everyone knows that Cambodia is a satellite state of the chinks. The pinoys are now trying to offer themselves as a second satellite state of the chinks too.

PM Lee highlighted a real and present danger of large countries trying to meddle in our domestic politics.
 

glockman

Old Fart
Asset
In the 1950s and 1960s, the russians and chink commies infiltrated our trade unions to turn zikapore red.

In the 1960s, the CIA tried to bribe the late Ah Gong and turn him into a yankee stooge.

In the 1980s, Francis Seow of the WP was turned by the CIA.

Recently, Huang Jing was exposed as a foreign stooge trying to use his academic position to subvert sinkie politics.

Today in ASEAN, everyone knows that Cambodia is a satellite state of the chinks. The pinoys are now trying to offer themselves as a second satellite state of the chinks too.

PM Lee highlighted a real and present danger of large countries trying to meddle in our domestic politics.
You are delusional, just like your PAP handlers.
 

johnny333

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Asset
In the 1950s and 1960s, the russians and chink commies infiltrated our trade unions to turn zikapore red.

In the 1960s, the CIA tried to bribe the late Ah Gong and turn him into a yankee stooge.

In the 1980s, Francis Seow of the WP was turned by the CIA.

Recently, Huang Jing was exposed as a foreign stooge trying to use his academic position to subvert sinkie politics....


Isn't all these claims heresay?
I read that LKY was paranoid. So any claims he made are suspect.

I know that LKY profited & made $$$$ providing the Yankees with munitions & other supplies.
 

scroobal

Alfrescian
Loyal
Its a return to bogeyman politics. His father did that with the threat of communism long past after the threat was gone. Goh had Marxist Conspiracy. Wonder who he is going to identify as his bogeyman - honestly I cannot think of one he can use without being ridiculed and laughed at.
 
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