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US must prepare to die dozens of millions if they want conflict, and they should know that they would not be the last one standing after the war. US's days of cowboys are fucking over. One fucking foot in their graves already, still want to Kuai Lan?

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Russia, China to practice island defense during eight-day drill in disputed sea (PHOTOS, VIDEO)

Published time: 12 Sep, 2016 09:01
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Russia and China are launching an eight-day naval exercise in the South China Sea on Monday. The drills will include anti-submarine warfare, vessel rescue, joint air defense, and taking an island with amphibious and airborne troops.

5 vessels of Russian Pacific Fleet land in China for Naval Cooperation drills 2016. pic.twitter.com/8GWzPemYQO
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The South China Sea is a major trade route, as well as a source of regional tension, with several powers, including China, contesting sovereignty over parts of the sea. The Russian-Chinese drill, which is being held off China’s southern Guangdong Province, is not directed against any third party, the two countries’ militaries said.
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Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte (3rd R) shakes hands with Chinese Primier Li Keqiang (L) at the 19th ASEAN-China Summit to commemorate the 25th Anniversary of the ASEAN-China Dialogue Relations in Vientiane on September 7, 2016. © Noel Celis Beijing talks ‘revitalized’ trade & financial ties with Philippines as Duterte spews vitriol on US

“Our cooperation is not aimed against anyone and is meant to protect our mutual interest and ensure security in all naval regions. It’s good to have two powerful nations cooperate,” said Admiral Aleksandr Fedotenkov, deputy commander of the Russian Navy.

Both countries provided Navy surface ships, submarines, fixed-wing aircraft, ship-borne helicopters, and armored amphibious equipment, said Chinese Navy spokesperson Liang Yang.

Most of Beijing’s forces come from China’s Nanhai Fleet. Russia sent five warships from its Pacific Fleet, led by anti-submarine destroyer Admiral Tributs.

The active phase of the Joint Sea 2016 exercise is to begin on Thursday and last until Monday next week.

RT's Roman Kosarev is reporting from the scene.

Chinese navy welcomes 5 Russian vessels in south China for 2016 Naval Cooperation drills. pic.twitter.com/aGD3vfEua8
— Roman Kosarev (@Kosarev_RT) September 12, 2016

This year, Russia and China are holding their fifth naval drill under that name. The first was held in 2012 in the Yellow Sea, the second off the coast of Russia’s Far East in 2013, and the third in the East China Sea in 2014.

Russian sailors taking photos on Chinese vessel ahead of Joint Sea 2016 navy drills. pic.twitter.com/mwRaHZlV09
— Roman Kosarev (@Kosarev_RT) September 12, 2016

Last year, the fourth exercise was conducted in two phases, with the first in the Mediterranean in May, and the second in the Peter the Great Gulf, the waters off the Clerk Cape, and the Sea of Japan in late August.

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China, Russia set to start military drills in South China Sea
Ships from China's South Sea Fleet taking part in a drill near the Xisha Islands, or the Paracel Islands in the South China Sea, on May 5, 2016.
Ships from China's South Sea Fleet taking part in a drill near the Xisha Islands, or the Paracel Islands in the South China Sea, on May 5, 2016.PHOTO: AFP
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BEIJING (AFP) - China and Russia were to start war games in the South China Sea on Monday (Sept 12), Beijing's Defence Ministry said, in a show of force after an international tribunal invalidated the Asian giant's extensive claims in the area.

The eight-day joint drills will include exercises on "seizing and controlling" islands and shoals, Chinese navy spokesman Liang Yang said in a statement.

They will involve surface ships, submarines, fixed-wing aircraft, ship-borne helicopters, marine corps and amphibious armoured equipment from both navies, he said.



"Compared with previous joint drills, these exercises are deeper and more extensive in terms of organisation, tasks and command" he said in the statement, released on Sunday.

China claims almost all of the South China Sea and has sought to bolster its case by building a series of artificial islands capable of supporting military facilities.

But a UN-backed tribunal ruled in July - in a case brought by the Philippines - that any extensive claims to the sea had no legal basis and that China's construction of artificial islands in disputed waters was illegal.

Beijing reacted furiously, with Foreign Ministry spokesman Lu Kang threatening a "decisive response" if anyone took "any provocative action against China's security interests based on the award".

Beijing's land reclamations have prompted criticism from other claimant countries and the US, and Washington has regularly sent warships into the strategically vital area to assert the right to freedom of navigation.

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A undated photo showing two Chinese jet fighters during a military drill in the South China Sea near China's Hainan Island.
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This week's drills will be carried out off the coast of Zhanjiang city in the southern province of Guangdong.

Their precise location was not announced, but they do not appear to be taking place in disputed parts of the sea.

They were aimed at "strengthening the capabilities of the Chinese and Russian Navies in jointly handling security threats on the sea", navy spokesman Liang said.

China and Russia have close military and diplomatic ties, often in opposition to the West, particularly the United States, and their leaders Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin enjoy a tight relationship.

Last August, the two powers held military exercises in the waters and airspace of the Peter the Great Gulf, south of the Russian Pacific city of Vladivostok, involving 22 vessels, up to 20 aircraft and more than 500 marines.

In May last year, they conducted their first joint naval exercises in European waters in the Black Sea and Mediterranean, China's farthest-ever drills from its home waters.

Chinese military officials have said this week's exercises were "routine" and the official Xinhua news agency said on Monday that Western media reports on them had sought to deliver a "sensational impression".

Suggestions that they were meant as a "sabre-rattling" warning to other countries were "ill-informed" and driven by "prejudice about China and Russia", it said.

"It may be true that growing military ties between Russia and China have irritated someone's sensitive nerves," Xinhua added. "The defensive nature of these manoeuvres is in line with China's defence policy, which makes it clear that China will not be the first to strike."

Apart from the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan also have partial claims to the sea, through which over US$5 trillion in annual trade passes.
 
Japan alone can beat this two. They did it once.

One Kim Jong Nuke is sufficient to nuke Japan 10X worst than WW2. Japs back to 3rd world, just alike WW2 after Hiroshima Nagasaki.


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Japan alone can beat this two. They did it once.

in 3 separate wars (russo-jap and 2 sino-jap) but not in the same war. in ww2, soviet tank forces rolled over jap soldiers like crushing roadkill in the manchurian campaign near end of war - greatest and fastest lop-sided campaign in soviet and jap history. japs didn't want to talk about that defeat but some producers made a patriotic movie about jap trucks and personnel going on suicide missions running into tanks with fuel tanks and explosives.

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vietnamese army officers are taught the lessons of the soviet manchurian campaign in ww2 at their military academy. it's a classic among commie blocs in tank and armored offensive. of course, the viets hope one day they can teach tiongs the same lesson.

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vietnamese army officers are taught the lessons of the soviet manchurian campaign in ww2 at their military academy. it's a classic among commie blocs in tank and armored offensive. of course, the viets hope one day they can teach tiongs the same lesson.

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I thought the vietcongs already taught the tiongs a lesson when tiongs invaded north vietnam just after the US retreated.
 
I thought the vietcongs already taught the tiongs a lesson when tiongs invaded north vietnam just after the US retreated.

that's the sino-viet war of 1979. it was between the pla and nva. vietcongs were commie insurgents in the south during the american-vietnam war. they were not the same as the nva, although they fought side by side with the nva providing guides, guerrilla activities and asymmetric interior threat within south vietnam. in the 1979 war, the pla invaded vietnam and reached several km pass the northern border only to withdraw after suffering heavy casualties and not being able to hold ground securely as the nva were good at counter attacks.

any invader who penetrates into the womb of vietnam will give up and run as their horrible spoken accent is unbearable. one minute in a pho restaurant hearing 2 viets talk to each other can drive you nuts and ruin your meal. their accent is a weapon of mass destruction.
 
in 3 separate wars (russo-jap and 2 sino-jap) but not in the same war. in ww2, soviet tank forces rolled over jap soldiers like crushing roadkill in the manchurian campaign near end of war - greatest and fastest lop-sided campaign in soviet and jap history. japs didn't want to talk about that defeat but some producers made a patriotic movie about jap trucks and personnel going on suicide missions running into tanks with fuel tanks and explosives.

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soviet beat the germans and are war veterans by then,hardened vets especially after stalingrad.its no surprise they cleaned the floor with japs.
 
soviet beat the germans and are war veterans by then,hardened vets especially after stalingrad.its no surprise they cleaned the floor with japs.

the japs had 7 armies of close to 1 million men including about 170k from the manchukuo province and over 40k from inner mongolia. 1 army was left in korea. soviet forces totalled 1.5 million including an army from outer mongolia. the weather was warm, fields were dry, and almost all of soviet forces were mechanized and augmented heavily with armored vehicles and tanks. the plains and rolling woods of manchuria were perfect for tank warfare, and soviets poured their battle-tested t34's and heavy tanks at the japs. over 100k japs killed, maimed or missing in a few days of battle; over half a million surrendered. soviet planted their flag at port arthur (now part of dalian), had a victory parade in harbin, allowed mongolia to seize and occupy inner mongolia, reclaimed all lost territories from the old russo-jap war, seized some jap islands, advanced to the 38th parallel in north korea, sent tens of thousands of japs to labor camps. and when commies took power in china later in a few years, soviets returned manchuria, inner mongolia, harbin, dalian to mao.
 
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the japs had 7 armies of close to 1 million men including about 170k from the manchukuo province and over 40k from inner mongolia. 1 army was left in korea. soviet forces totalled 1.5 million including an army from outer mongolia. the weather was warm, fields were dry, and almost all of soviet forces were mechanized and augmented heavily with armored vehicles and tanks. the plains and rolling woods of manchuria were perfect for tank warfare, and soviets poured their battle-tested t34's and heavy tanks at the japs. over 100k japs killed, maimed or missing in a few days of battle; over half a million surrendered. soviet planted their flag at port arthur (now part of dalian), had a victory parade in harbin, allowed mongolia to seize and occupy inner mongolia, reclaimed all lost territories from the old russo-jap war, seized some jap islands, advanced to the 38th parallel in north korea, sent tens of thousands of japs to labor camps. and when commies took power in china later in a few years, soviets returned manchuria, inner mongolia, harbin, dalian to mao.

the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima two days earlier. the Kwantung army in Manchuria had no will to fight already by then. they knew the war was over, the Japanese government would surrender to the Allies any moment. the Manchuria war at the last days of ww2 was totally meaningless which only served to advance the Soviets' military and political objectives in Manchuria at the expense of Nationalist China.
 
Xi Jinping, as a Chinese patriot should demand that Putin returns the lands that the Russians had stolen from China.
 
Japan alone can beat this two. They did it once.

what does Japan have to do with you? Are you a jap? Nope you're a m&d sinkie so why are you wearing the butt skin of the japs on your face? What does japan losing or winning have anything to do with you? You see you're anti Chinese hence anti China so any country that can win China even one as ridiculous as Japan u will support but ironically japs killed lots of m&ds in indonesia/mudland etc.
 
the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima two days earlier. the Kwantung army in Manchuria had no will to fight already by then. they knew the war was over, the Japanese government would surrender to the Allies any moment. the Manchuria war at the last days of ww2 was totally meaningless which only served to advance the Soviets' military and political objectives in Manchuria at the expense of Nationalist China.

to be fair to the soviets (although we know they took advantage of regaining lost pride and land in their apex of power after defeating germany and taking berlin) they were egged on by the allies in teheran and yalta to start a 2nd front in siberia against the japs after germany capitulated. they agreed but promised it would be 3 months after the surrender of germany. they weren't aware of 2 atomic bombs being planned for japan and that they would be dropped in early august. at time of invasion commencement of manchuria it was exactly 3 months after the surrender of germany, and it was gobsmacked between the 1st bomb on hiroshima and 2nd bomb in nagasaki. coincidence? it was part of the reason why japan surrendered after the 2nd bomb. the emperor and the generals in tokyo were still dragging their feet after hiroshima. the mass evacuation of the royal family to manchukuo if an american invasion of honshu was successful was abandoned after they learned soviets had taken the entire province. the 2nd bomb was the last straw.
 
to be fair to the soviets (although we know they took advantage of regaining lost pride and land in their apex of power after defeating germany and taking berlin) they were egged on by the allies in teheran and yalta to start a 2nd front in siberia against the japs after germany capitulated. they agreed but promised it would be 3 months after the surrender of germany. they weren't aware of 2 atomic bombs being planned for japan and that they would be dropped in early august. at time of invasion commencement of manchuria it was exactly 3 months after the surrender of germany, and it was gobsmacked between the 1st bomb on hiroshima and 2nd bomb in nagasaki. coincidence? it was part of the reason why japan surrendered after the 2nd bomb. the emperor and the generals in tokyo were still dragging their feet after hiroshima. the mass evacuation of the royal family to manchukuo if an american invasion of honshu was successful was abandoned after they learned soviets had taken the entire province. the 2nd bomb was the last straw.


the Soviets were smart opportunists back then. the USA would have won the war on its own in East Asia and fully control the entire region postwar in its best interests but the Soviets negotiated a last minute entry into the war, extracted maximum gains from its limited efforts, and expanded its influence into the region when the doors should be tightly shut. the USA made a mistake, and East Asia had to suffer and pay the price for that. from the USA and Japanese war records, it seems that, even without the atomic bombs, the Japanese government was very close to announcing a surrender. they just needed some more time to accept the Potsdam Declaration.
 
https://www.rt.com/news/359178-russia-china-naval-drills/

Subs, jets & tug-of-war: Russian-Chinese naval drills kick off in disputed South China Sea
Published time: 13 Sep, 2016 12:29


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Russia and China have started their massive joint ‘Naval Interaction – 2016’ exercises in the South China Sea. The ambitious drills, which are to last eight days, will take place in the air, coastal and maritime zones of the disputed sea.
RT's Roman Kosarev, reporting from a Russian flagship, has witnessed the start of the drills. He was present at the opening ceremony of the start of the exercises, managed to capture a tug-of-war contest between Russian and Chinese sailors.


Russian group consists of major “anti-submarine warfare ships ‘Admiral Tributs’ and ‘Admiral Vinogradov’, the major landing ship ‘Peresvet’, the sea tug ‘Alatau’ and the ‘Pechenga’ tanker,” the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement, adding that the commander of the group is Rear Admiral Vadim Kulit.

“During the entrance into the foreign port, the [Russian] military seamen of both countries fired “international salute” (21 volleys from each side),” the ministry added.


The joint drills which kicked off on Monday, September 12, are to last till September 19 and “will take place …in the air, coastal and maritime zones of the South China Sea,” the ministry said. The active phase of the drills will be held September 12-15.

In total, two submarines, 13 surface combatant ships, more than 20 planes and helicopters will take part in the drills from both sides. Over 250 marines will join the exercises, the ministry said, adding that some 12 armored personnel carriers (APC) and armored amphibious equipment will be also involved.

READ MORE: Russia, China to practice island defense during eight-day drill in disputed sea (PHOTOS, VIDEO)

The drills will include anti-submarine warfare, vessel rescue, joint air defense, and taking an island with amphibious and airborne troops.

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“This year, for the first time, we are holding a contest of the best damage control among the best units of the marines,” Rear Admiral Aleksandr Yuldashev told Interfax, adding that the servicemen learnt how to survive on the crushing ship and extinguish fire on board the vessel.

Russian-Chinese drills show that both countries “can demonstrate their common interests, support each other,” Joseph Cheng, a political analyst from Hong Kong University told RT.

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“Russia wants to show that it is a global power with global interests and is ready to defend such global interests…and China certainly welcomes such exercises in response to American bilateral and multilateral exercises in the area,” he said, apparently referring to joint drills between US and South Korea.

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The South China Sea is a major trade route, as well as a source of regional tension, with several powers, including China, contesting sovereignty over parts of the sea. The Russian-Chinese drill, which is being held off China’s southern Guangdong Province, is not directed against any third party, the two countries’ militaries said.


This year, Russia and China are holding their fifth naval drill under that name. The first was held in 2012 in the Yellow Sea, the second off the coast of Russia’s Far East in 2013, and the third in the East China Sea in 2014.

Last year, the fourth exercise was conducted in two phases, with the first in the Mediterranean in May, and the second in the Peter the Great Gulf, the waters off the Clerk Cape, and the Sea of Japan (also known as the East Sea) in late August.
 
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