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Serious Saving $1m through CPF

SNTCK

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Losing around $100,000 of hard-earned savings when the share market crashed in the 1998 Asian financial crisis prompted Singtel employee Loo Cheng Chuan to devise a safer way to build a nest egg.

Mr Loo, 44, went about creating a low-risk line of defence by using the Central Provident Fund (CPF), particularly the Special Account, as his investment vehicle.

"It's simply creating a financial safety net by topping up your Special and Medisave Accounts at a young age, as young as possible, and just letting it compound over a long period of time to over half a million dollars," he says. "Combine that with your spouse, you will reach a million dollars at age 65."

Mr Loo explained his "1m65" strategy in a video clip that was shown during the CPF Retirement Planning roadshow at Suntec City on Aug 27.

Mr Loo, who works in the digital business department at Singtel, noted in the clip that he realised that all the instruments offered by the CPF are risk-free and guaranteed by the Government. Even creditors will not be able to touch your nest egg.

Armed with this knowledge, he started topping up his Special and Medisave Accounts from age 30.

He had already bought a four-room flat in Punggol and used some of his Ordinary Account savings to pay the mortgage. Still, he tried his best to transfer the surplus in his Ordinary Account to his Special Account as often as he could.

"In our early 30s, my wife and I worked very hard and we were very thrifty in managing some of our CPF expenses and that led to a full accumulation of our Special and Medisave Accounts," he recalls.

By the time Mr Loo was 34, he had hit the cap of around $120,000 on both accounts.

Assuming the interest rate remains at 4 per cent, his savings and those of his wife in these two accounts could compound to almost $1 million by the time they reach 65, even if they choose to stop working a few years after they turn 34 and contributions to these accounts cease. And if they continue working until retirement, the combined amount would be much higher than $1 million.

However, Mr Loo admits that his strategy is not without downsides.

"It requires you to take money from the Ordinary Account to quickly top up your Special Account - which means you cannot be buying big houses and big condos. And, of course, as an ordinary Singaporean, I aspire to these things. But between looking rich and being rich, I prefer to be rich."

In addition, once you put money into the Special Account, you cannot withdraw it for housing purchases, as it is meant for retirement. This poses some risk and discomfort to people.

The comfort and the peace of mind that he would have $1 million waiting for him in his golden years is so great that Mr Loo has started sharing his experience with his church groups and friends.

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"I realise that for a family, a safety net of $1 million is a wonderful sum of money. It brings a lot of security in my life and because of that, my whole life changed, my risk profile changed. I can be a bit more aggressive in some aspects of my life because I have this safety net," he says.

His wife, Madam Lee Bee Yee, 44, is in the personal shopper trade. They have three children, aged 15, 13 and 12.

WHAT A FINANCIAL EXPERT SAYS

Promiseland financial adviser Wilfred Ling says Mr Loo's method of using his CPF to accumulate $1 million is viable.

In fact, he worked out that it is possible for a CPF member to accumulate $1 million before the age of 57 by starting to top up the Special Account from age 25.

He based his calculations on a few assumptions, including a gross monthly income of $2,500, a one-month bonus and a 5 per cent yearly increase in the member's salary. Other assumptions are that the member transfers all his Ordinary Account savings to the Special Account. This means he would have no CPF savings available for housing loans.

Mr Ling also assumed that the CPF rules and interest rates will remain unchanged. "Individuals who wish to lock in their money in CPF for the long term will need to balance the long-term gain of having a large balance in their CPF when they retire, with their short-term needs, such as children's education and general expenses."

He added that this method is particularly useful for people in business as CPF money is protected from creditors.

"I have advised a number of my clients, who are businessmen, to accumulate as much CPF as possible so that in the event of bankruptcy, their retirement nest eggs remain unaffected," Mr Ling said.

http://www.straitstimes.com/business/invest/saving-1m-through-cpf
 

SNTCK

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my question is if hit 1M in cpf. then we can use that money? can withdraw and spend?
 

chootchiew

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my question is if hit 1M in cpf. then we can use that money? can withdraw and spend?

I find the best and safest method is to payoff your pigeon hole ASAP best before 35. After that transfer all your oa to sa , Same time top up with cash to the cpf ms. Still continue to add on to the oa from your slavery job. When reach 55, you store the ms with pappy. The balance u have the luxury to treat it like a bank. No other fom of investment can beat this with no risk
 

Bigfuck

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I find the best and safest method is to payoff your pigeon hole ASAP best before 35. After that transfer all your oa to sa , Same time top up with cash to the cpf ms. Still continue to add on to the oa from your slavery job. When reach 55, you store the ms with pappy. The balance u have the luxury to treat it like a bank. No other fom of investment can beat this with no risk

That is not wrong. But for most, it will be a monthly disbursed annuity
 

scroobal

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If he put the same amount into property and got a bigger unit, that capital would have appreciated substantially. When he retires all he has to do is to sell the property, down grade to a smaller property and he would have substantial cash. Marine Parade 5 room flats were sold for 35K when they were launched. Look at it now.

Property is one investment that you do not have to watch over, write in forums seeking advice, etc. Land is scarce and there is only one way to go. If you are living in your investment which is your home, you do not have to worry about property cycles. Due to the ratchet effect, the drop will never hit the previous low.
 

SNTCK

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I find the best and safest method is to payoff your pigeon hole ASAP best before 35. After that transfer all your oa to sa , Same time top up with cash to the cpf ms. Still continue to add on to the oa from your slavery job. When reach 55, you store the ms with pappy. The balance u have the luxury to treat it like a bank. No other fom of investment can beat this with no risk

My partner cpf got 300k or 350k at 35 years old.
I really impressed. But can see then can't touch.

We 2 combine cpf also got 550-600k. Can see but can't spend. Got what use?!
 

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If he put the same amount into property and got a bigger unit, that capital would have appreciated substantially. When he retires all he has to do is to sell the property, down grade to a smaller property and he would have substantial cash. Marine Parade 5 room flats were sold for 35K when they were launched. Look at it now.

Property is one investment that you do not have to watch over, write in forums seeking advice, etc. Land is scarce and there is only one way to go. If you are living in your investment which is your home, you do not have to worry about property cycles. Due to the ratchet effect, the drop will never hit the previous low.

Good point, but how come property company share price still sink!
 

chootchiew

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My partner cpf got 300k or 350k at 35 years old.
I really impressed. But can see then can't touch.

We 2 combine cpf also got 550-600k. Can see but can't spend. Got what use?!

For the higher income should use it for property lo. But try the best to reach cpf ms ASAP also.
When turn 55 u can downgrade property and huats
 

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We 2 combine cpf also got 550-600k. Can see but can't spend. Got what use?!

If you spend it then you're killing the goose.

Never spend your principal. Use the money to generate returns.
 

Bigfuck

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There is a belief that if you control the property prices everything is fine. Remember you cannot eat your house/condo/flat. It is known in other countries whereby the property has a great stated value with no takers. If the banks will not take your property as collateral, it tells you how fungible it is. Maybe the bank will use it as collateral not for $ but for gardenia bread. :biggrin:
 

SNTCK

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If you spend it then you're killing the goose.

Never spend your principal. Use the money to generate returns.

I Everyday live like begger, walk most of the time. Seldom take taxi.
Eat like begger also. Seldom restaurant foods. Only go restaurant once have 1 for 1 deal, or buy from Groupon.

Salary also can save a big portion.
 

Bigfuck

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I Everyday live like begger, walk most of the time. Seldom take taxi.
Eat like begger also. Seldom restaurant foods. Only go restaurant once have 1 for 1 deal, or buy from Groupon.

Salary also can save a big portion.

It seems you spend most of your productive life living like a beggar so that you can store a big nest egg, only to find that by that late age, you have no mood for good food, sex, travel and bad health due to scrooging.. If you have kids, they can enjoy for you.
 

Leongsam

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I Everyday live like begger, walk most of the time. Seldom take taxi.
Eat like begger also. Seldom restaurant foods. Only go restaurant once have 1 for 1 deal, or buy from Groupon.

Salary also can save a big portion.

Yes if you forego gratification when you're earning power is greatest you're laying a solid foundation for reaching financial independence while you're still fit and healthy.

Target financial independence before the age of 45.

Remember that every $1,000,000 to your name earns you $40,000 of passive income annually so if you can reach $3,000,000 that's $120,000 a year while you're sitting by the beach enjoying wine and coconut water.
 

chootchiew

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It seems you spend most of your productive life living like a beggar so that you can store a big nest egg, only to find that by that late age, you have no mood for good food, sex, travel and bad health due to scrooging.. If you have kids, they can enjoy for you.

There are people who actually truly enjoy the process of living in poverty secretly and seeing the bank account grows . The sense of achievement surpass enjoyment from food and entertainment :biggrin:
 

Bigfuck

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There are people who actually truly enjoy the process of living in poverty secretly and seeing the bank account grows . The sense of achievement surpass enjoyment from food and entertainment :biggrin:

Yes I know. They dress like paupers and will even collect water by slow dripping so slow the meter ticker does not even move.
 

chootchiew

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There are people who actually truly enjoy the process of living in poverty secretly and seeing the bank account grows . The sense of achievement surpass enjoyment from food and entertainment :biggrin:

I believe, though may not always be true. This is closely related to these 2 questions :

1. Are you the person that prefers to complete your task then relax or opposite ?

2. When you eat a steak, do u eat the steak first or the fries & beans first
 
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